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Whenever Pathbreaker Ibex attacks, creatures you control gain trample and get +X/+X until end of turn, where X is the greatest power among creatures you control.
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Pathbreaker Ibex Discussion
2 days ago
I'm making a Gishath too, what do you think of these cards:
Planar Bridge - Yeah, it's 8, but any permanent goes onto the field
Lifecrafter's Bestiary - Scry and draw
Nahiri's Machinations - I imagine this working best when my opponent has a 1/1 deathtouch and I want to attack with Gishath. Can also trigger enrage
Tilonalli's Skinshifter - I'm on the fence about this one, tbh
Somberwald Sage - Same here, because it's a 0/1, but it ramps pretty well
Pathbreaker Ibex - Another way to win
Samut, Voice of Dissent - Another haste enabler and gives one creature pseudo vigilance. I also like running two or three legendary creatures that match my colours, so that might be clouding my judgement a bit.
Yisan, the Wanderer Bard - Tutor/ramp
I would also like to propose a new theme song: https://youtu.be/428IyxSfsls
1 week ago
Hi again miracle! And thanks that you still here :)
I am grateful for your interest to my deck and your explanations and opinion.
I have no doubt about your knowledge in mono green decks. All the cards you suggested are great and I am very familiar with them. All that I wanted to say is that some of them is not so good in this deck, and some "not so good" and even weak cards are shine here especily having Rhonas as commander.
Pathbreaker Ibex - he won me many games, he actualy can kill at least one player in one attack having Rhonas by his side. All I am saying is based on my experience playing with this creature. Comparing him with Blightsteel Colossus Colossus has its weaknesses in this build, starting from super high cmc and the fact that it cant be cheated by Norwood Priestess and Natural Order. Triumph of the Hordes was in the deck for a couple of tests. But I'm allergic to "infect" mechanic and trying to win with pure combat damage. But anyway, Your explanations and reasons convinced me to change Pathbreaker Ibex and test something else (maybe Recycle?).
Sorry but I just cant cut Traverse the Outlands this card is super powerful in this deck, You dont need some other creature that makes Travers effective cuz you already have Rhonas (turn 2 usualy online), see this deck with this commander plays a bit different from some other green decks. And Travers can be disrupted, yes (actualy as any spell, and Mana Reflection in particular), considering all enchantment and artifact hate in EDH and super hate Mana Reflection causes it is target number one when it on the table. So, I would prefer having both Traverse the Outlands and Mana Reflection in the deck. I will definitely test Mana Reflection thanks for this suggestion.
Exploration is a good card, but not here, belive me, I tested it a lot, and almost always was desapointed.
Thanks again for all your advices and help!
1 week ago
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2: Ibex requires a full turn to start doing things. In a 4-player game, somebody will have an answer.
3: If you have a large creature and a lot of little creatures to make your ibex worthwhile, chances are you have just played Avenger of Zendikar and your opponent should Damnation, but because they allowed an avenger to resolve and not the ibex
3: Ibex is 6 mana for a 3/3. This is not what you want to be doing.
4: "Insert Primer Comments Here". His draw synnergies that you mentioned occur during the second main phase. Why are you playing a buff spell that allows you a second mainphase where your opponents are still alive. Life's legacy and garruk are second mainphase and due ot trample you are not sacrificing mid combat.
4.5: If you are attacking with any of your monsters, you should already be winning or playing a better pump spell. Ibex is not the keystone here, avenger/craterhoof/vorinclex/and if you add it Blightsteel Colossus are and would be.5: Triumph of the Hordes wins on the spot and requires less. Ibex does not do either of those.
Expanding upon Traverse the Outlands:
1: If you have a creature large enough to make traverse effective, then you already winning.
2: Assuming that traverse is a worthwhile play (i.e. a creature with power >6), then you are not looking to ramp. You are looking to find a card to seal the deal (Craterhoof Behemoth)
3: In comparison to other more powerful ramp spells, traverse cannot gaurantee you a large amount of mana. Mana Reflection, if played with 6 lands, will probably start you with 12 mana on your next turn (excluding Sol Ring and other variables).
4: If you play Traverse the Outlands and you have a 7/7 Bane of Progress out, chances are that you are looking to capitalize on your opponents lack of artifacts/enchantments, start killing people with your massive creatures, and would rather dig for answers (i.e. Recycle).
5: Traverse the Outlands is very easy to counter with spot removal. While turn 4 Rhonas -> Turn 5 traverse seems like a realistic and legitimately good play, it dies to the rafiq player responding with Swords to Plowshares and you feeling sad that you spent 5 mana on a Rampant Growth.
6: Lastly, traverse only searches for basic lands. This means that you cannot get nykthos, gaea's cradle, glaical chasm, and or boseiju... This is a serious problem.
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"This deck doesn't draw lands." Whenever you are drawing a multitude of cards, you will be doing lands. Exploration makes the additional dead draws not as oppressive.
Recycle falls into many traps that I have mentioned when talking about the ibex... except for one. If you are in a losing position, it will put you into a winning position. It is one of the few cards that can help you recover from a Toxic Deluge/Merciless Eviction. Praetor's Counsel is the other card. Recycle is also one of the best draw spells in green, as in it is a 1-card combo. This makes it worthwhile.
If you are wondering about my credibility on mono green, feel free to check out My Mono Green Deck. While it functions differently from yours, it is still mono green and usually reliant on two paths to victory (combo or big creatures).
1 week ago
Thanks for upvote and for kind words! No I haven't consider Traverse the Ulvenwald! Thanks for suggestion.
Ok, miracle, Thanks for your comment and your suggestions. I will try to answer your questions and clarify my choice of certain cards.
Playgroup - Most often I play against Zur, Purphoros, Xenagos. Sometime I play against Meren, Azusa, Rafiq, Narset etc. So, I cant say that I create decks for some specific environment. On the contrary, I try to make decks as more versatile as posible.
Question about Pathbreaker Ibex and Wild Beastmaster: I realy doubt that someday I will cut Pathbreaker Ibex, its to good in this deck, it is one of the main agro creatures of the deck, it has a lot of strong synergies with so many cards (described in primer) and with Rhonas. When my opponents see him on the battlefield, they begin to fidget nervously in the armchairs and ask each other "Do You have board wipe spell?". You yourself mentioned that redundancy is very important in EDH and I absolutely agree with this. Wild Beastmaster is in the testing mode, was added to the deck about a week ago and havent been tested well enough, but I agree that it could be replaced with something more useful. I will consider some replacemets after more testing.
About winmore cards: Traverse the Outlands - "If you are spending 5 mana to find 8 lands, chances you are already winning on that turn or going to assuredly win on the upcoming turn" - exactly! You will just win on the next turn, and it can happen on turn four easily. Comparing Mana Reflection with Traverse the Outlands I can say that in this deck Traverse the Outlands is better, because its cheaper, provides more safe ramp (dont need to survive a turn) and as You said both of them are winmore. And I prefer to use as a mana doubler Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger, tutorable, can be cheated and has a mana denial ability. Nacatl War-Pride is in the testing mode too, recently added, but I see a lot of potencial in this creature! The reasons why it is a good card in this deck described in Primer. Exploration - this deck dosen't draw lands, and the land count is minimal so most of the game Exploration is useless, I tested it a lot. For the same reason I cut Azusa from the deck. Staff of Domination is good for redundency for combos, but It will be a second card wich is useless outside of combo and I don't want it, thats why I run only Mantle in the deck. Win through a combo is plan B in this deck, usualy it wins through agro strategy. Choosing from the Eldrazi titans I would choose only one - Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger, he is in Maybeboard for a long time and someday I will try to use him, maybe instead of World Breaker. This deck run very powerful spells for drawing extra cards (especialy with Rhonas early in the game) i like those spells more then Kozilek.
I am familiar with Recycle and it is definitely an interesting card, I will think about using it, in this deck it could be realy fun
So hope I clarified the choice of cards and why they are good/or bad in this deck. If you have any additional questions or suggestions, be sure to ask.
1 week ago
Me is curious, what decks does your meta/playgroup consist of?
Either way, you should highly consider removing Pathbreaker Ibex and Wild Beastmaster. While both quite easily pump up your team, they pale in comparison to Craterhoof Behemoth. While redundancy is always a good thing to have in an edh deck, neither are strong enough by themselves (i.e. they do not win the game immediately) to warrant inclusion to a "control" deck. Recycle and Praetor's Counsel will do you better.
In this deck, there are plenty of winmore cards. Traverse the Outlands, Viridian Longbow, and Nacatl War-Pride all fit into the category. If you are spending 5 mana to find 8 lands, chances are you are already winning on that turn or going to assuredly win on the upcoming turn. Consider using cards such as Exploration (explosive), Mana Reflection (this on turn 3, if it survives, usually means you win on turn 5), Staff of Domination (combos). You should also find space for the eldrazi titans (kozilek especially as more potent card draw).
There are cards in this deck that don't make sense (some mentioned above), unless you are tuning your deck against specific other decks (i.e. not tfc / pfc / U/x stax)
2 weeks ago
Selvala's Stampede Flavor card and still good card for deck
Krosan Grip If you run green in edh you should probably take advantage of enchantment removal
Throne of the God-Pharaoh Beastly late card game that will drain your opponents life.
Burgeoning Dump all your lands out quick and get high ramp early
Pathbreaker Ibex generally if you have a 6/6 and up and you got enough creatures should be a good win con for a deck like this
Beastmaster Ascension swing in with big dudes one turn...next turn make them even bigger
Rishkar's Expertise This isnt a really needed card but it can help. Up to you
Siege Behemoth having big creatures that can overcome blocking is one thing. but having that source constant and unable to be targeted...goodnight
Elvish Piper freecasting any big creature for 1 mana is awesome. I know the card is pricy but if you want a really good investment this is one
Wild Pair A great midrange/lategame tutor for creatures
Managorger Hydra May not seem like much at first. But give this guy 5 turns in a 4 player game. He becomes a big threat very quick
If you are thinking about going over $200 later on here are some ideas
Defense of the Heart this is one of my favorite cards to play in mono green decks. If you are going up an aggro deck like goblins and you throw this out, you get your 2 best creatures and play them for free
Worldly Tutor 1 mana creature tutor. Need i say more?
Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger Double your mana, restrict opponent mana
Patron of the Orochi Untapping all your creatures and forests for a 2nd main or defense
Primeval Titan 6/6 with trample that tutors for 2 forests when it enters/attacks
I really hope that this list will strongly help you. I would suggest that you exchange your forests for other lands that will benefit more but if you do not have the budget, it still works.
Besides what i added, I can not really think of what else you will want off the top of my head. If you wanna ask for more help feel free to contact me.
Other than that good deck for its price +1
3 weeks ago
Mirror Entity could work really well for protecting your non-Dino creatures and boosting your enrage guys when you have a lot of mana, not to mention superboosting Gishath.
Arcbond is a great way to activate enrage too. It's super overlooked.
Rite of Passage is probably pretty damn good with Dinos too.
Pathbreaker Ibex isn't a Dino, but goddamn does he not help in decks like these.
Dromoka's Command actually can work wonders in EDH. Trust me on this.
4 weeks ago
I now have the Jurassic Park theme song in my head...Pathbreaker Ibex synergizes really well in this deck: it's Dinosaur food and it pumps all your creatures with the greatest power among creatures you control!maybe you can put Atzocan Archer in the deck for triggering Enrage.