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Creature — Ogre Warrior
Riot (This creature enters the battlefield with your choice of a +1/+1 counter or haste.)
As long as it's your turn, you and Gruul Spellbreaker have hexproof.
Gruul Spellbreaker Discussion
2 weeks ago
Playtested against this deck. It has a lot of really good cards, and the ramp is spot on. only problem is it's very vulnerable to removal. I recommend adding cards like Vexing Shusher , Gruul Spellbreaker , Grand Abolisher , or even Rebuff the Wicked . These colors have a lot of possiblities for giving indestructible, hexproof, etc.
3 weeks ago
4 weeks ago
1 month ago
First, I would like to give my "resume" of Modern. I've been playing the format for about 6 years, playing Atarka Burn, Bogles, Jeskai Control, Tron, and Affinity. This is not a brag, moreover a showing that you can trust my advice and recommendations. Given that, I have a couple critiques of your counterargument. I'm not here to start a flame war, rather just to give a different perspective.
Control players do not care about their creatures living or dying. They want their ETB effect and they're essentially done with them. As someone who played Jeskai Control a year or two ago, I can attest to this. Against you, having the body on the field just blocks one creature, which does almost nothing in the grand scheme of the game. They'll never attack with the creature in a normal game. As such, Plague Engineer is not as good as you think against something like U/W Control. I would almost use Engineer naming Elemental for Celestial Colonnade over Wizard, assuming Engineer doesn't get boardwiped away, which it probably will.
Again regarding Plague Engineer , the only matchups where it's going to be useful in the mainboard is against Humans and Spirits, the latter almost completely falling out of the format. Aside from rogue decks, there aren't a lot of tribal decks in the format. I just don't think it's useful enough comparatively against all Modern decks to be in the mainboard. You'll get minimal value out of it against even regular creature decks. If I were building this deck, I'd replace it with Scavenging Ooze .
I don't really understand where you're getting the 7/7 figure from Gruul Spellbreaker , I'm assuming from a bunch of Exalted triggers from Hierarch and Pridemage. The problem is, having a bunch of those Exalted triggers is going to make almost any creature immediately amazing. Having Trample and Haste is nice, yes, but you're kind of relying on the other creatures to make it good, which you can't guarantee you'll have regularly. In the super fast format that Modern is, a regular 3/3 trample haste for 3 really isn't that good, and having Hexproof on your turn doesn't do a whole lot. Jund and Lantern Control would have already used their discards spells by the time it comes out and Burn players don't mind waiting until their turn to play their spells. And against other decks like Titanshift, Ad Nauseam, and Storm, they were going to kill you on their turn anyway. Knight of Autumn is going to give you more options and better utility.
I do understand your idea of having the Exalted subtheme. The only issue with it is that the buff is not permanent. If you look at the Humans deck, they play cards like Champion of the Parish and Thalia's Lieutenant . These two cards make either themselves or other cards into giant threats by themselves permanently, just by playing creatures, which is what the deck does. If you just rely on Exalted to make your stuff big, your creatures are almost always going to be in range of a Lightning Bolt .
Now all of this critique is completely subject to the power level you are looking for with this deck. If you're just trying to make a casual deck that you can play with your friends, go for it. Build whatever you want. I would happily cheer you on playing your Gruul Spellbreaker . However, if you're trying to make this a competitive deck to play in tournaments there are parameters that you need to fit in, otherwise you run the risk of your deck either a.) running too slow to be able to keep up or b.) Not doing what you need it to do. And seeing the price of this deck, it does seem to be fitting into the latter category. I'm definitely not trying to squash your fun or your creativity, but this is the reality of the format. You either come in with a deck that can at least parry the hyper-tuned decks, or leave the tournament with a slouch. I've personally been in both camps, and you can probably guess which is the category I wanted to be in.
1 month ago
Thanks for the comments, and the advice. I was genuinely surprised to see I'd taken the Meddling Mages out of the sideboard, so I put them back in. I've seen humans before. The idea was to steal their broken opening, but to attack the format from a different angle. That was mostly a joke about how fast Modern is getting, what with all the turn 2 kills out there now.
I put Aether Vial in. I genuinely blanked on it, an earlier version of this list included Shriekmaw because I wanted everything to come with a body in the deck (and thus be castable off of Ancient Ziggurat . But I've found Path to Exile totally playable so of course Vial would be too.
Plague Engineer is alive more often than it is dead. It is a blowout in tribal matchups, but even outside of them you can kill any 1 toughness creatures. That's a surprisingly relevant kill spell. Like for instance, imagine killing multiple Snapcaster Mage s and Vendilion Clique s by naming wizard vs control. Against burn you can name Goblin or Human depending on the creatures they drop, and goblins can now be easily blocked by most of your creatures. Goblins is probably better in most situations. You definitely pull him out in matchups where he's low impact in game 2. But I think he's sound in low numbers in the main, and I might run more of him if things get really tribal ever.
I like Tomik for his sweet, efficient body. Same with Gruul Spellbreaker . They're threats. It's hard to know what to call this list, since its really centered on dork - 3 drop, with Mantis Rider being the all star, but its held together by running main deck hate pieces from every colour.
Qasali Pridemage is good. The deck kind of has an exalted thing going on, so even though it doesn't snipe a lot of things, it's a big card where artifacts and enchantments show up, and it does just enough to pull its weight when they don't. I considered Knight of Autumn over Gruul Spellbreaker , but the Spellbreaker has a better body. It's fun playing a hasty tramply 7/7 with hexproof.
1 month ago
I'm not a huge fan of the Chandra, Acolyte of Flame s. The first 0 does next to nothing while the other one is just not a great threat. The last ability lets you rebuy a removal spell, but I like playing more Lava Coil s more. What I don't like about Chandra, Acolyte of Flame is it doesn't give inevitability like most walkers. I think if you want that, I would play Treasure Map Flip.
Also, I'm curious as to the exclusion of Llanowar Elves . I think you just get some free wins by curving that into Gruul Spellbreaker or Legion Warboss . It also ramps you into Rekindling Phoenix , Doom Whisperer and Chandra, Awakened Inferno . I might cut 2x Merfolk Branchwalker s and mabye 1x Assassin's Trophy and 1x Thrashing Brontodon .
Another thing I'm curious about is maybe some Temple of Malady s.
3 months ago
Depending on which browser I use, I can't comment on the deck page so I'll post here though I dunno if you'll see it here:
Played a few more rounds:
Game 1: I'm on the draw. Dude drops a turn 1 Arcbound Ravager , sacs everything, and proceeds to swing away with an 8/8 starting on turn 2. I take a profound beating but respond with Emmara, Soul of the Accord and attack, making chumps to feed his monster. He doesn't draw anything else after that and I bust him ftw. 1-0
Game 2: He's a little slower and only makes Frogmite and Arcbound Worker on turn 1. Ravager comes out turn 2. I get Hero of Precinct One and make dudes with Tajic, Legion's Edge and spank for 6 right away. He responds with all out attack. I block the Frogmite and he sacs out, pumping the Ravager up to 6, brings me down to 5, and finishes with Shrapnel Blast . 1-1
Game 3: On the play again. I have to mulligan, keeping two land and a mox, but make Hero while he makes Ravager and a pair of Ornithopter . He swings, I try Response / Resurgence on the Ravager so he sacs everything and makes the Ornithopter 5/7, just outside Collision range (in my effing hand, no less!). Whatever. I make a Swiftblade Vindicator while he attacks me down to 1, I throw Colossus on the vindicator and swing all out, pummeling him for 14... he's at freaking 15. One more freaking damage OMFG!!! Ornithopter finishes me off while I stare at the same two land and useless mox. 1-2
Game 1: On the play, I get no red mana but two mox and Emmara, and which allows me to drop her and Hero on turn 2. Next turn Aurelia, Exemplar of Justice and swing for 6. All I see on his end is Anticipate and Eldrazi Skyspawner . 1-0
Game 2: I lose one Emmara to Harnessed Lightning , a second to Thopter Arrest . Stuck on two mana and a useless Mox, I make Hero and lose that to another lightning. Everything in my hand costs 3. He makes Jace, Unraveler of Secrets . I find another land and make Legion Warboss , he responds with Eldrazi Skyspawner . This allows Tajic, who gets traded but I take Jace down to 1. Chandra, Torch of Defiance torches the Warboss, leaving me with a 2/2 and a 1/1 goblin so he makes Heart of Kiran which takes 6 from Collision / Colossus allowing me to polish off his planeswalkers. Tajic happens again only to fall under Thopter Arrest. Then Aurelia happens, pumping the goblin and this is the first time I actually damage this punk. Next turn, eleven, one Chance for Glory dies to Negate but the second gets through ftw. 2-0
Game 3: Vindicator dies to lightning, Emmara dies to Thopter Arrest, I drop a second Emmara and he plays Felidar Guardian to blink the arrest, kills one Emmara to the legend rule and arrests the survivor. I have Tajic but he's not going to bust through the 1/4, he topdecks Saheeli Rai . GG. 2-1
Game 1: I'm on the draw. Thunderherd Migration reveals Ghalta, Primal Hunger and pumped Vindicator takes down Steel Leaf Champion early. He then ramps while Tajic pumps Vindicator for 7 to the face when he drops 6/6 Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar . Tajic pumps the Vindicator again at a loss to himself while Warboss adds another, bringing him to 6. He then plays another Champion, then taps 2 for Ghalta. Colossus and the double-striker trade for the 12/12 and it costs me the Warboss and Emmara so I get him to 3 but I got nothing left but tokens. He finds a Gigantosaurus and sends 8/8 trampling Multani over. I've got 4 attackers, he's got 3 blockers and I topdeck the Planeswalker. I have another Vindicator so I offer him to the 10/10. We trade, then he throws down another Ghalta and my next card is a land. 0-1
Game 2: I keep two Clifftop Retreat and a hero and wait to draw a green while he ramps into Steel Leaf Champion , Gigantosaurus , then Aggressive Mammoth . I can make some dudes but not that much, he makes another 10/10 and Ghalta. 0-2
Game 3: Hero, Emmara, and Vindicator jump out the gate while he ramps into Gigantosaurus. I trade Vindicator plus Colossus for the big guy and cast Chance for Glory but it wouldn't have mattered since I had so many dudes out by that point. 1-2
vs. Stars n Stripes
Game 1: Early Tajic and Vindicator get in for sixteen before dying to Wrath of God . Hero dies to Incinerate , Aurelia, Exemplar of Justice eats a Force of Will , and Vindicator knocks him down to 1 before eating another Wrath. Out of creatures, Huatli sits there and adds counters until he finds Rainbow Efreet to eat away at her. I finally start to draw creatures again but by this time he's got two Thawing Glaciers being fed by Brainstorm and everything I cast gets burnt, countered, or nuked. Efreet ftw. 0-1
Game 2: Both decks get a slow pull, much to his advantage, not mine. Hero gets Incinerate, Aurelia eats a Force of Will while he digs for Glaciers. A second Aurelia + Huatli bounces off a Rainbow Efreet turn after turn when he finds his land. I drop Tajic and smash, pumping the angel and knock him down to 3. He kills Huatli with the Efreet, phases out, and taps out for Wrath. With nothing left I draw into a land clump while he goes crazy with two Glaciers, every creature I find gets swallowed by Hammer of Bogardan while hasty Tajic gets lost to a Dissipate . 0-2
Game 3: I gain some life early from Swords to Plowshares and then spank his mana-screwed ass with Tajic. Colossus saves him from the Incinerate and repeats the beats. Huatli grows while Tajic dies to a second Incinerate. Rainbow Efreet comes out and starts to eat Huatli, Legion Warboss makes a goblin before getting the Hammer. I'm forced to use Response to take out the Efreet though I probably should have done so sooner. He throws the Hammer at Huatli bringing her down to 5 and plays a second Efreet and Kjeldoran Outpost . Then a gross misplay leaves the wrong mana untapped, Tajic kags, gets fed by Colossus and Huatli sacs to add 1 for exactly his life total... his three land are two Island and the Outpost. Oops. 1-2 but he shoulda won that last one.
Game 1: I draw no red. He opens with Birds of Paradise and Wood Elves , equips Umezawa's Jitte so I kill the elf with Response / Resurgence and come at him with Hero of Precinct One and Tajic, Legion's Edge and spank for 7. He thinks he can stop me with Arashi, the Sky Asunder so I swarm him with tokens, save my dude with indestructible Chance for Glory , 5 damage get through and there's Colossus in hand. 1-0
Game 2: We both mulligan to six. He drops a turn-3 Kodama of the North Tree . Then Aurelia comes and pumps the Vindicator who eats a Saproling token. Kodama smashes again knocking me down to 3 while Llanowar Elves puts counters on Umezawa's Jitte to take out the Vindicator. No matter; with Aurelia, Hero, and tokens I've got 8 damage plus Chance for Glory and a +4/+2 combat trick on standby. 2-0
Game 3: Shanna, Sisay's Legacy comes, then Mox enables Aurelia to hit turn 3 and swing for 4. He answers with Loxodon Hierarch . I swing, he Seed Spark s the Mox and makes two Saprolings, I pump Shanna to save her and get through with two in the air, he answers with four on the ground. He then throws another Seed Spark at his own Pithing Needle to stack Shanna. I, pump to kill the elephant and he drops Yosei, the Morning Star . I play another Shanna and pass the turn. Yosei starts to beating and I make a Warboss. We trade blows, I get down to 6 and he kags a Selesnya Guildmage . My turn, I kag a Tajic and swing with just enough to force him to trade the guildmage along with the Saproling, he just made, leaving Aurelia to block the dragon ftw. 3-0
There were some cards I was thinking about that I no longer consider and others I'm more convinced of.
Mox Amber just didn't do much. 90% of the time it was just dead weight and even when it did do its job the best it did was bring me from 3 to 4. It doesn't give me colors I'm missing and when the Legends get killed it sits there worthless. I initially thought Lightning Strike would go here but now I think a simple Shock would do even better. Even if you don't draw it, the threat of instant damage should change the opponent's play to our advantage.
Aurelia, Exemplar of Justice I'm on the fence about. Sometimes she added just the right amount of damage, sometimes she looked pretty. Overcosted, she's the only flyer in the deck and sometimes that made a huge difference. I was thinking Gruul Spellbreaker . The advantages to him are haste, which was often the difference when Tajic, Legion's Edge , that it's not white though I don't see a lot of protection from white in Standard right now. He doesn't feed the combo, though that could be a plus. I dunno. I like the angel, just not as much as I'd like.
I request that you add this list to your sideboard so that it may be tested. There are dependent factors, such as are you more likely to go up against control/combo in which case Cindervines should be an absolute killer, or are you more bothered by the graveyard recursion in which case Return to Nature would be better. 4:2, 2:4, or keep it at 3:3.
Banefire I anticipate should be a control destroyer. Without testing we can't be sure, but I suspect it can double as a Teferi-blaster or a face-puncher just the same. It might be too expensive, not sure, but imagine playing Chance for Glory , bash with creatures, and then Banefire lets us throw the mana at him as well.
Unbreakable Formation is a total spoiler. The indestructible is similar to the Chance but if we don't have lethal on the table we can't take the Chance. (you like that?) Hold back in anticipation of Kaya's Wrath or even use in conjunction with Chance to pump creatures.
I put Shalai in there to protect YOU, btw; lot of the cards that killed us targeted the player.
Anyway so there we have a sideboard. If you try it out let me know how it works.
4 months ago
SP3CTR3_chelts I think I’ll remove 2 check lands from the deck since I don’t really feel comfortable going below 35 lands since I don’t have too much mana ramp in the deck, excluding the ones that put land onto the battlefield.
Then I’ll remove Combat Celebrant , Wild Pair , Gruul Spellbreaker , and Samut, Voice of Dissent , Bow of Nylea since a lot of the time the creatures don’t get blocked anyways, and swap out Coat of Arms for one of the other tribal artifact.
Swapping them out for 2-3 pieces of removal, maybe a Mystical Tutor , probably 1-2 signets for the deck into the deck for some more mana ramp, and getting Coastal Piracy and Keep Watch into the deck for some more card draw.
Gruul Spellbreaker occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.29%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%