Vile Rebirth

Vile Rebirth

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Exile target creature card from a graveyard. Put a 2/2 black Zombie creature token onto the battlefield.

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Vile Rebirth Discussion

Tata on Tiny Toshiro Umezawa (NETHER-GO)

1 month ago

Forgot about the interaction with your general. That makes Vile Rebirth actually really good. And those are all great ways of dealing with sword/thopter combo. Pretty creative way of dealing with the combo.

Of all the cards you listed I like Feldon's Cane the least. I think the elixir and the foundry do enough and provide enough options vs mill. I'd really consider Pithing Needle - I've found it invaluable vs many decks (elves, teysa, grenzo, etc etc)

Malachorn on Tiny Toshiro Umezawa (NETHER-GO)

1 month ago

First of all, Vile Rebirth has nothing to do with Graveyard hate... I just want to be able to spend 1 mana to get a 2/2 and then, thanks to Toshiro Umezawa, be able to flash that back. Basically, Vile Rebirth is part of my creature package... the idea that it has incidental value in doing things like dealing with the second half of creatures with persist/undying is just pure unadulterated bonus. But I really just want the Vile Rebirth to be a creature that doesn't trade even with something like my opponent's Swords to Plowshares (which is why I'll play it over "an obviously better card" like Vampire Nighthawk here).

The graveyard hate from the sideboard is largely to deal with Sword of the Meek + Thopter Foundry ... though I wanted enough cards there to have overlap with other matchups. Cremate, for example, is actually just a fine card in this deck... since Toshiro Umezawa lets you flashback Instants... it's often acting as a Night's Whisper that doesn't deal you damage in any matchup that you just don't think you want quite so much removal in (say, the mirror). Suffer the Past is also the kind of card that I totally don't mind bringing in in certain matchups that aren't really even about their graveyard (say, the mirror).

Elixir of Immortality is almost only for the mill matchup and so is the Thran Foundry. However, I think there are certain Esper lists that would want you to have access to your Thran Foundry as well as most of your other graveyard hate... the bonus that you can hit your graveyard or theirs is sometimes real then, and as opposed to Feldon's Cane, inasmuch as Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver is a real card that's sometimes joined by something like a Nephalia Drownyard and then you have to worry about all that on top of their Sword of the Meek + Thopter Foundry .

But mostly, I guess, the deck is VERY dedicated to beating any sort of creature strategy already... so I don't think it exactly needs/wants cards like Perish or whatever you might find more traditionally on black sideboards.

I'm sure I might look at the sideboard a lot harder in the future and actually crunch some numbers... but as it currently stands, I think it's at least serviceable and sensible.

Malachorn on Tiny Toshiro Umezawa (NETHER-GO)

1 month ago

First of all, Vile Rebirth has nothing to do with Graveyard hate... I just want to be able to spend 1 mana to get a 2/2 and then, thanks to Toshiro Umezawa, be able to flash that back. Basically, Vile Rebirth is part of my creature package... the idea that it has incidental value in doing things like dealing with the second half of creatures with persist/undying is just pure unadulterated bonus. But I really just want the Vile Rebirth to be a creature that doesn't trade even with something like my opponent's Swords to Plowshares (which is why I'll play it over "an obviously better card" like Vampire Nighthawk here).

The graveyard hate from the sideboard is largely to deal with Sword of the Meek + Thopter Foundry ... though I wanted enough cards there to have overlap with other matchups. Cremate, for example, is actually just a fine card in this deck... since Toshiro Umezawa lets you flashback Instants... it's often acting as a Night's Whisper that doesn't deal you damage in any matchup that you just don't think you want quite so much removal in (say, the mirror). Suffer the Past is also the kind of card that I totally don't mind bringing in in certain matchups that aren't really even about their graveyard.

Elixir of Immortality is almost only for the mill matchup and so is the Thran Foundry. However, I think there are certain Esper lists that would want you to have access to your Thran Foundry as well as most of your other graveyard hate... the bonus that you can hit your graveyard or theirs is sometimes real then, and as opposed to Feldon's Cane, inasmuch as Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver is a real card and so are Sword of the Meek + Thopter Foundry .

But mostly, I guess, the deck is VERY dedicated to beating any sort of creature strategy already... so I don't think it exactly needs/wants cards like Perish or whatever you might find more traditionally on black sideboards.

I'm sure I might look at the sideboard a lot harder in the future and actually crunch some numbers... but as it currently stands, I think it's at least serviceable and sensible.

Tata on Tiny Toshiro Umezawa (NETHER-GO)

1 month ago

Beseech has a cmc of 6 so it can't be played.

Vile Rebirth for Thoughtseize? But I see a lot of your sb is devoted to grave-hate... why? What's your meta like?

ToshiI on how to counter white and ...

2 months ago

Evertytime i play my friend i get absaloutley thrashed no matter how much i change up my deck to try and counter him. Im quite new to mtg so I'd like some advice from experienced players. What kind of deck should i build to counter his overly annoying life drain deck?

My original deck was bnw but it had no theme to it. I tried to add more life gain as i lose more than half about 10 mins in. I really like black and white but dont have many creatures in this deck just mainly enchanments socery and instants. I have a green and blue deck that can hold out quite long but i still get trashed. I'll put both decks on here. Would a red deck be better to counter life drain?

So what deck would you use to counter this deck?

Friends life drain deck: Swamp x12 Plains x9 Mystic Monastery x1Orzhov Guildgate x5

Creatures: Underworld Coinsmith x1 Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts x1Tormented Soul x2 Mardu Hateblade x2Sybdicate enforcer x1 Chief of the Scale x1Caustic Crawler x1. Phylactery Lich x1Adjani's sunstrikerx1. Tithe Drinker x2

Instant:Harm's Way x1. Riot Control x2Erasex3. Disfigure x1Vile Rebirth x2 Silencex1Whitesun's Passage x1 Pay No Heed x2Reinforcementsx1 Wring Fleshx2Mending Handsx1 Doom Blade x3Angel's Mercyx1.

Enchantment:Stab Woundx3. Sinister Possessionx2Pacifismx3. Artificer's Hexx1Contaminated Bond x1. Mardu asscendancy x1Unholy Strength x1. Gift of Orzhova x1

Socery:Deathmarkx2Psychic Spearx1Increasing Devotionx1Deadly Allurex1Disentombx1

Artifact:Staff of the Death Magus

Tokens:human x10spirit x2Sliver x1zombiex1

Plainswalker:Liliana of Dark Realms

square711 on Seppuku and Genocide

2 months ago

I'll start with something I suggest to everyone who makes a sac deck in Modern: Grave Pact. It gives you ridiculous board control against creature-based decks, especially paired with cards like Death Cultist and Viscera Seer, who can be sac'd for free and at any time. Speaking of Viscera Seer, what's it doing on your maybeboard? It's a free scry at worst, a great sac engine at best, and it's a one-drop! Definitely a mainboard choice, IMO.

Here are some other suggestions, based on my own experience with suicide black:

  • Festering Goblin - great sac fodder early on. Can quickly get you rid of Delver of Secrets  Flip or Snapcaster Mage before they start getting feisty.

  • Plagued Rusalka - when playing suicide black, you can't just wait for your creatures to get killed. You gotta have a sac engine. Cartel Aristocrat and Viscera Seer are the best, but Rusalka is almost as good, and it's pretty handy as spot removal, too.

  • Vile Rebirth - A smaller Immortal Servitude that can target an opponent's graveyard. Killing Wave makes them sac their stuff too, so get something good out of it.

  • Quest for the Gravelord - why not? It's not like you'll take longer than two turns to trigger this.

  • Tragic Slip - I don't care if your dude is indestructible. I don't care if it survives Lightning Bolt or even Dismember. When I play this, it better be goddamn Emrakul or it's going down.

  • Altar's Reap - good card draw for 2 mana, and the additional cost is irrelevant when you play suicide anyway.

  • Bojuka Bog, Tormod's Crypt (sideboard) - when your opponents are sending as many cards to the graveyard as you are, you need some sort of graveyard hate to keep their recursion in check. Then again, nowadays there are so many goddamned Delver decks in Modern everyone should run graveyard hate, period.

  • Path to Exile, Erase (sideboard) - Since you're playing Orzhov, might as well make use of the best white removal in the game.

And... I'm not sure I agree with Diabolic Tutor. Your deck has enough synergy that you'll rarely be in desperate need of a tutor, especially for such a high mana cost. Even Liliana Vess seems like a better choice. But that's up to you.

All in all, great job putting up that deck! I'd be delightfully annoyed if I played against it, that's for sure. +1 from me!

APPLE01DOJ on 2014-12-29 update of Zombiepox

3 months ago

Yes u need 4 Lillys.

LotDR + Urborg doesn't work. Lands are only swamps thanks to Urborg if they're on the battlefield.

Vile Rebirth doesn't have many targets in this deck otherwise it would work.

I think I prefer Phyrexian Arena to Blood Scrivener. I own both so its easy to test out...

Diregraf Ghoul ETB tapped hasn't been too bad of a set back.

Color(s) Black
Cost B
Converted cost 1
Avg. draft pick 11.34
Avg. cube pick 13.19

Legality

Format Legality
Legacy Legal
Vintage Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Modern Legal
Duel Commander Legal

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Set Rarity
Magic 2014 Common
Magic 2013 Common

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