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Secrets of the Dead
Whenever you cast a spell from your graveyard, draw a card.
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Secrets of the Dead Discussion
1 week ago
Some of them are totally worth it. Siren Stormtamer protects you from grave removal. I’ve been playing Muldrotha for some time now and got a decent list online here. Tested Secrets of the Dead and it can’t hold up with River Kelpie. Stinkweed Imp is just useful for the dredge and only good with a sac outlet. Life from the Loam does the same plus puts itself back to grave while giving you lands and without any needed second card. Ramunap Excavator has proven pretty useless too. You better go for some protection like Diplomatic Immunity instead to protect your commander and you got the same effect.
1 week ago
Hey, this is a good start, nice base of Elves and interesting choice to use Muldrotha as Commander for tribal Elves; I haven't seen this before. When I see something new with Elves I get excited :) Elves having access to both blue and black gives you some great options of under played Simic and Golgari Elves. Even though this is Elves and ramp, consider expanding on the idea that Muldrotha's ability lets you play multiple types of permanent cards not just creatures from your graveyard even the same turn? You can only play one creature a turn from the graveyard with Muldrotha unless that creature is an artifact creature or enchantment creature, but Elves have neither. There's only 5 nonland cards that are permanents that aren't creatures here.
Consider expanding on the use of enchantments? I'm not saying to cut a lot of Elves you still want them, but have a more well rounded mix of nonland permanent cards to also take better advantage of Muldrotha as Commander. Consider this ratio: 35 lands/30 creatures/10-15 enchantments/5-10 artifacts/5 instants/5 sorceries? Instead of playing a lot of instants and sorceries instead play enchantments that do the same thing or nearly equal effects. For instance Unearth is a good card for reanimation, but so is Animate Dead and Animate Dead can be cast from your graveyard thanks to Muldrotha, where as Unearth outright can't.
All my card suggestions are budget, no card over $6 and most are $1 or less. Cards to consider adding:
- Ezuri, Renegade Leader
- Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
- Edric, Spymaster of Trest
- Underrealm Lich
- Joraga Treespeaker
- Elves of Deep Shadow
- Quirion Ranger
- Beast Whisperer
- Imperious Perfect
- Elvish Clancaller
- Reclamation Sage
- Wirewood Herald
- Farhaven Elf
Ezuri is a huge payoff for playing tribal Elves and ramp, repeatable Overrun a ton of times and attack with a huge trampling Elf army. Momir's ability seems great with Muldrotha since you can play green and blue cards from your graveyard with her. Other cards that give you benefits when you cast creatures such as Beast Whisperer, Lifecrafter's Bestiary seem excellent with Muldrotha and Elves. You're still casting creatures from your graveyard with Muldrotha even though her ability says play, that still means cast. The only reason her ability says play and not cast is because you can play a land, you can't cast a land. Underrealm can be repeatable source of draw/card advantage and adds self-mill which is good with Muldrotha.
- Animate Dead
- Seal of Primordium
- Secrets of the Dead
- Pernicious Deed
- Mystic Remora
- Vessel of Nascency
- The Eldest Reborn
- Song of Freyalise
- Commander's Sphere
- Lifecrafter's Bestiary
- Chromatic Lantern
- Wirewood Symbiote
- Regal Force
- Eternal Witness
- Sakura-Tribe Elder
- Fleshbag Marauder
- Viscera Seer
- Thunderfoot Baloth
Other than Blightsteel Colossus and Rune-Scarred Demon the other big creatures you're trying to ramp into aren't really worth it because they're just big creatures who don't give you any value. With Muldrotha you can really take advantage of creatures who give you value when they ETB (enter the battlefield) or die because you can potentially repeatedly play them each turn from your graveyard. Getting a continuous source of value from many single cards is very good in Commander. Symbiote and Quirion Ranger is a combo with Archdruid/Priest/Channeler letting you tap and untap them many times a turn to make a lot of mana.
As far as playing three colors with Elves it can be problematic because green is the most important color to be able to cast the one drop green Elves consistently you need a ton of Forests. My advice is to play primarily green (20x Forests) and just light splash the two other colors (2x Swamps, 2x Islands and 11-12x dual lands) in the manabase. Joiner Adept and Lantern can be a huge help here with land color fixing. It's better to play more Forests and then use other cards to get blue and black such as Tribe Elder, Farhaven, etc.
Good luck with your deck.
1 week ago
thanks you =]
tbh I don't wanna spend more then 200 USD overall, so thats the budget I'm looking at. my problem is in my playgroup I am general marked as a threat early and I suffer a lot for it. in terms of how I like to play and win, I love the value of using my graveyard and have a enchantment that benefit this Secrets of the Dead being an example and would like to use this more and additional benefits from using my graveyard as well.
I have a lot of self mill stuff which helps me a lot to the point where I think a new win condition could be Laboratory Maniac
any cards you can recommend would be greatly appreciated
2 weeks ago
Thank you for the suggestions, Firstmiracle.
I also thought about Gravecrawler and Grimgrin, Corpse-Born, but at this moment they are too expensive. Living Death is new to me, but also too expensive. So as long as i don't swap them for something similar expensive, i can't play them.
1 month ago
If you have other sac outlets (which you should probally run if your playing gravecrawler) Secrets of the Dead might work?
1 month ago
I've been playing The Scarab God Zombie EDH deck for a long while now. He's a great combo commander because his passive ability is aggressive and helps you hit combos while his active ability perfectly plays along with the zombie theme.
That being said, you've made some weird card choices, especially among your creatures.
Here's some Zombie's that I'd suggest to replace the many non-Zombie creatures you're running:
Balthor the Defiled, Cryptbreaker, Ghoulcaller Gisa, Grave Titan, Graveborn Muse, Gravecrawler (this is the most important combo piece in the deck), Gray Merchant of Asphodel, Havengul Lich, Lazav, the Multifarious (as a shapeshifter, he is a Zombie), Lich Lord of Unx, Lord of the Accursed, Lord of the Undead, Mikaeus, the Unhallowed, Noxious Ghoul, Razaketh, the Foulblooded (can pull all combo pieces in 1 turn, and play all 4 for 6 mana), Relentless Dead, Risen Executioner, Sidisi, Undead Vizier, Taigam, Sidisi's Hand (not a zombie, but fills your graveyard with them and has built in removal). These guys would go a long way to improving the consistency and power level of your deck.
Here's a few non-zombie cards that synergize with them very well:
Attrition (repeatable removal and sac engine), Dictate of Erebos+Grave Pact (combos well with Gravecrawler+sac outlet), Secrets of the Dead (works with all the ways we can play zombies from our graveyard and combos with Gravecrawler), Herald's Horn (draw + ramp), Urza's Incubator (ramp), Vanquisher's Banner (pump + draw), Whip of Erebos (lifelink zombies + graveyard play), Buried Alive (use this to put Gravecrawler, Wonder, and Risen Executioner into your graveyard for a great little combo that instantly gives you access to 3 cards), Search like Diabolic Tutor, Demonic Tutor, and Diabolic Intent helps to get out combo pieces.
The main combo I keep talking about is Rooftop Storm + Gravecrawler + a sac outlet, usually Grimgrin, Corpse-Born, and something to abuse like Grave Pact/Dictate of Erebos, Diregraf Captain/Plague Belcher/Noxious Ghoul/Bontu's Monument. These are all pieces that are individually good, but when put together will instantly win you the game in one way or another. Razaketh, the Foulblooded can be used to grab all 4 combo pieces, then you only need to play Rooftop Storms and you can play the rest of the combo for free! It's a really great card in black combo decks like this.
Anyways, feel free to take a look at my deck if you want any ideas. Zombies are my favorite tribal and are always a blast to play. I love that they can be so combo heavy, yet still be an unstoppable horde if you can't combo out thanks to all the +1/+1 anthems that Zombies get. Good luck with your deck!
2 months ago
Having run a few playtests on a copy, I'm really liking Electrostatic Field/Firebrand Archer, Hellspark Elemental and an instant/sorcery discard theme, with Cathartic Reunion- I'm considering a blue splash for Secrets of the Dead/cantrips or a green splash for the omni-present Life from the Loam. Burning Vengeance didn't work out, but Risk Factor looks like an all-star.
I gave some thought to an 'incidental damage' goblins list looking to burst with Goblin Grenade, but it looked too fragile after some tests without morphing into something unrecognisable.
2 months ago
ducttapedeckbox No worries take your own time to see what fits.
Secrets of the Dead I have never tried to be honest. However, I run on a very low curve and land count, and I try to play without Muldrotha as much as I can, cause it did draw a lot of hate when I started playing for the first few times. So I don't think it will be very consistent in my deck, or at least not as consistent as a Mystic Remora and Rhystic Study.