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Creature — Zombie Giant
Diregraf Colossus enters the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter on it for each Zombie card in your graveyard.
Whenever you cast a Zombie spell, put a 2/2 black Zombie creature token onto the battlefield tapped.
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Diregraf Colossus Discussion
7 hours ago
Hello, I just found your deck and like where you went with it, However i did notice that you have a distinct lack of draw cards. I might suggest Cryptbreaker in your because like my own zombie horde deck, it focuses very much on bringing out a massive amount of token zombies, and he turns them and the dead buffer zombies like Diregraf Colossus,Death Baron etc into draw engines since that effect can be activated even if the creature is summoning sick, careful of the life lost though. And since your focusing on bringing out a horde I saw that you added in Door of Destinies which while that's a good card, you might REALLY want Coat of Arms that gives hilariously high bonuses to all of your creatures immediately especially since they all share the subtype zombie. and if you decide to play it really aggro style, then a good game ender once you have a good horde going on is Foul-Tongue Shriek since that burns them for life as you're attacking in addition to whatever the horde is doing. I would also suggest adding in a few Lord of the Undead as while his resurrection power is a tad slower than Relentless Dead I've found in most games I've played once opponents know what he does, they won't let his effect go off very easily, and Lord of the Undead brings that off that pretty nicely if you get into a bind while giving zombies a buff. Good deck though, like what you did with it. +1
8 hours ago
Good start, Zombie is my favorite tribe :)
23 hours ago
1 day ago
I hate being the guy that tags his own deck in the comments, but I run a fairly successful Mono-Black zombie list which I think may be relevant to you: Modern Mono-Black Zombies. Good cards not on that list are Cryptbreaker, Diregraf Colossus, Geralf's Messenger, Cemetery Reaper, and Undead Warchief. I usually run 20-22 lands, depending on the curve. With zombies I usually run a mix of removal because why not, and hand disruption. I say, in tribal decks anyways, redundancy is good; I usually run 3-4 of each non-legendary card at 3 or less mana when playing a tribe. Good luck running zombies, definitely my favourite tribe.
5 days ago
Fair enough - I started out mono black too and it is still a great deck with value creatures. But then I just ran into too many combo and control decks (e.g. Tron, U/W Control, etc.) during playtesting, which just crushes creature decks like ours. I really wanted my Zombies deck to be more competitive, which is why I decided to have more interaction mainboard.
Also, I see that you are going for a devotion theme, but I wonder what your mana sink is, or what you need so much mana for? By the time you have enough permanents on the battlefield to profit from Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, I imagine you are almost empty-handed, what with AEther Vial helping you dump your creatures, AND your only source of card draw being Cryptbreaker. Additionally, how many times have you been in the situation of having a Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx in hand and unable to cast your BB or BBB creatures?
I don't think Diregraf Colossus underperforms, I think I said Diregraf Ghoul was the one. Diregraf Colossus was actually the card that made me seriously test a Zombies build after it was spoiled. It really is nuts together with a sac outlet and Gravecrawler. You can do a fair impression of a Thopter Foundry deck!
How has your playtesting been going so far? Do you keep track of your wins and losses against specific decks?
5 days ago
Hey there zephyr_chang, I'm glad you like the idea! First of all, I have to disagree about Death Baron being better in competitive Modern than Lord of the Undead. My reasoning is that creature fights are just as often won by that lord effect than the deathtouch, and in the late game I'd rather not have to rely on Relentless Dead's death trigger. Secondly, Black Cat feels more like a sideboard card than a mainboard one. Actually, to the rest of your suggestions, I have to say that my opinion is that for a competitive modern list, I'm trying to streamline it as much as possible. All of your suggestions are great, and I'd love to play them, but they all seem to revolve around a repeated sac engine, whereas my strategy is more of the black devotion zombies instead. I don't think I'm going to splash any colors right now, but I'll certainly keep white in mind. Obviously Cavern of Souls would be great, but I'm not laying down that cool $200 just yet. I also really like Fleshbag Marauder, but again, it goes into a different strategy. Viscera Seer would work with your strategy, but I feel that, again, it is a different type of zombie deck. I do agree that Diregraf Colossus underperforms. What would you suggest for a replacement?
5 days ago
First off, props on making a Zombie list! I have been testing my own Zombie brew on MTGO for a long time and I find that they have game against many decks out there. Some personal opinions from my own playtesting:
As a Zombie lord, I prefer Death Baron to Lord of the Undead, although admittedly I tested more with the former than the latter. You already have a more efficient recursion engine in Relentless Dead so I'm not sure we need another one.
Black Cat really shines against control and combo decks, and is useful in general as a roadblock. With a sac engine in place, you can even choose when you want to strip a card from your opponent's hand when he tries to go off, for example. Plus, since you are playing AEther Vial (I'm not), you can do more tricks with it.
I splashed white just for Tidehollow Sculler (4 maindeck) to have even more game against control/combo because he is just that good. Again, with a sac engine, he just permanently exiles cards. Splashing white also gives you access to insane sideboard options. 4 Concealed Courtyard and some Isolated Chapel should be more than enough. A couple of Cavern of Souls would not go amiss either.
Fleshbag Marauder can also be considered in some number as it gets rid of tricky creatures in several decks. It has good synergy with Diregraf Colossus (you can choose to sac the token) and is crazy with recursion.
I have included 3 Viscera Seer in my list as the value in sacrificing Gravecrawler repeatedly to create Zombie tokens with Diregraf Colossus in play and fixing the top card of my library is just too insane to ignore. I think you can safely cut Diregraf Ghoul - it has underperformed for me when I tried it. A sacrifice engine also sets you up for instant speed tricks with Relentless Dead - give it a try! I even tried a 1-of Diregraf Captain for an alternative win-con but ultimately cut it as it was too cute.
In your experience, what match-ups give you the most problems?
6 days ago
His first ability will also not interact with the artifact, as it is not a triggered ability.