Front:Garruk Relentless Flip
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|From the Vault: Transform (V17)||Mythic Rare|
|Innistrad (ISD)||Mythic Rare|
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Garruk, the Veil-Cursed
Legendary Planeswalker — Garruk
+1 : Create a 1/1 black Wolf creature token with deathtouch.
-1 : Sacrifice a creature. If you do, search your library for a creature card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle your library.
-3 : Creatures you control gain trample and get +X/+X until end of turn, where X is the number of creature cards in your graveyard.
Garruk, the Veil-Cursed Discussion
2 months ago
It may be worthwhile to also request a limit on the PCs that users on the site can create. While coming up with something akin to Progenitus is great and all, it immediately offsets the dynamic nature of the game and does one of two things;
- 1.) Other users will justifiably increase their own character's power level in order to meet that of what the current meta is now described as.
- 2.) The challenges will become increasingly mundane as everyone now has plot armor.
In a word, let's try to avoid Power Creep.
To do so, I think the best way possible is to limit two things:
- 1.) The color identity of the PCs. Nothing 4c or 5c. That gives far too much power to a character. While it is true that 4c is one of the hardest things to achieve balance for, it is also a pitfall as I have seen many users in the Custom Card Challenge slap on paragraphs worth of information, mechanics, and abilities thinking that with each slice of the pie, you can increase the overall potential by 100%.
- 2.) PC cards should have a limitation of characters involved. That is to say, you can do whatever you'd like, but you have a physical character limit for the card. If you can fit it onto a realistic card, go wild. If you can't, trim it down a bit.
I'd like to turn our attention to a creature with, oddly enough, no mechanics whatsoever: Yargle, Glutton of Urborg . Including spaces, Yargle has 189 characters to the mechanic box of the card.
I believe this is more than enough, but let's be cool and round it up to an even 200. If you can make your card work in 200 characters (Symbols count as 1x character each), you're good. If not, please trim it down.
You can use THIS SITE to check character counts. It includes spaces when determining it.
By my own admission, Braux actually fails this criteria as he sits at 291 characters with flavor text, and 219 without. I think we can honestly disregard flavor text as it holds no mechanical function on the card.
Zacama, Primal Calamity actually holds 235, so consider the 200 limit more of a loose speed bump. If you need to go 10 - 30 characters over, feel free to as long as it is thematically and flavorfully appropriate. Once you reach 200 characters, look into simplifying, restricting, or nerfing.
And there is a strong tendency to replace character names with ~ on the card. While this can help reduce character limitations, keep in mind it IS kind of cheating - especially if your character name is a very long one. Some cards, such as Yorvo, Lord of Garenbrig will actually reduce the full name of the card down to just the first name of the character. Consider that as a template to save space if you must. In fact, doing so for Braux (My Minotaur) further reduces his text box down to 198 - 2x characters under the 200 soft limit I mentioned earlier.
By the way; Yorvo? 283 characters. So, again, it's really more of a soft limit / suggestion, not a concrete rule.
That being said, Boza has ultimate authority in this thread and follow whatever their wishes are :)
Everything above the line? 3,271 characters. :3
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Quick nitpicky thing: Garruk, the Veil-Cursed is G/B, not colorless. The symbol on his type bar states his color identity, just without using words.
2 years ago
AwezomePozzum to be honest, I don't actually have a commander playgroup, yet. That never really came up. I will keep that in mind as I never considered color identity in commander until my Beauty and the Beast's artifacts deck with Garruk, the Veil-Cursed. I wanted him to be my beast, but I couldn't without adding black to the whole thing, so I did.
As for the Bane of Progress, I like it as a card, but probably wouldn't put him in here. First, he's not an elf/doesn't benefit from most of my elfs, and, second, I don't have much in this deck to guarantee that he gets big enough. I'd stick him in a kind of green artifact destruction deck, where all the artifacts have "when this dies" and the green part is anti-artifact. I might stick him in Nature Doesn't Walk if I ever get him, but for now, I think I'll replace Naya Hushblade for some other cheap mana-dork, or hexproof/shroud elf. Anyway, thanks for letting me know. ;)
3 years ago
3 years ago
I really like your deck! Have you thought about throwing some other cheaper planeswalkers in here? Liliana of the Veil in infamously good with Pernicious Deed. So is Garruk, the Veil-Cursed Flip! how good has Loxodon Hierarch been for you? Usually I find it to be too slow, and having a 4 drop with Dark Confidant always makes me nervous. Also, I find in legacy Inquisition of Kozilek is often better than Duress when you're already playing Thoughtseize
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