|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Guilds of Ravnica: Guild Kit (GK1)||Uncommon|
|Modern Masters 2017 Edition (MM3)||Common|
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Creature — Horror
When Dinrova Horror enters the battlefield return target permanent to its owner's hand, then that player discards a card.
Dinrova Horror Discussion
4 months ago
Smothering Tithe - A great 'pay to play' card, and you'll ramp like crazy if they don't.
Rhystic Study - If they don't pay, you draw... they'll pay.
Thief of Sanity - Thievery + some mill, all in a nice evasion package.
Mnemonic Betrayal - This is just too good, cherry pick all your opponent's best spells they've played.
Desertion - Counter the threat, get the threat.
Paradox Haze - Double up on your commander's ability.
Emergency Powers - Great for resetting what is in someone's hand or your own. Addendum is gravy on top if you have nothing else to play during your main.
Supreme Verdict - Just a great wrath spell.
Rewind - Counter and keep the mana open.
Unwind - Sure it only works for noncreature spells, but there will be plenty of those around.
Wrath of God - The original.
Celestial Dawn - Makes casting opponent's spells with your commander just too easy.
Cascading Cataracts - Indestructible color fixing.
Revel in Riches - Mana fixing + a win-con if you get lucky.
Lightning Greaves - Protect what matters most.
Swiftfoot Boots - More protection.
Sun Titan - This guy is a beast, sometimes he'll only do a small bit, other times he's your golden boy. Cool little combo: Use Mirage Mirror to copy a sacrifice artifact like Mindslaver , use the sacrifice of the copied card, then bring Mirage Mirror back with the titan.
Paradox Engine - Use artifacts to pay for spells, then untap them to pay for more.
Darksteel Forge - With all your artifacts you're running, this lets you play your wraths without any fear.
Cards to consider ousting:
Blood Baron of Vizkopa - It's good, but won't be active all that much as a 10/10.
Deadeye Plunderers - Lackluster.
Merieke Ri Berit - Without a way to abuse untapping her she can under perform.
Nightveil Predator - Doesn't do as much for you as it could.
Odric, Lunarch Marshal - You're not strictly a combat deck.
Spell Queller - I like this card, but in commander it's just too fragile.
Traxos, Scourge of Kroog - He's not horrid.
Walking Ballista - Just not got for this deck.
Wrexial, the Risen Deep - Too slow, by this point you should be focusing on control with your commander.
Displacement Wave - You're putting in better.
Mind's Desire - You're just not build for this card.
Illusory Gains - Really depends on your play group.
Dimir Locket - The signet is better.
8 months ago
I think I'd get rid of one or both of the Dimir Guildmages depending on how much you like the card (the ability is a bit expensive for what you get in my opinion). If you like the dual utility of Dimir Guildmage you could also consider swapping it for House Guildmage which I think is a tad better unless you're really hurting for draw abilities. Same with Dinrova Horror, while flavorful 6 cmc for a 4/4 with bounce seems a bit much when you have a good number of counters, removal, or things like Unexplained Disappearance. Of surveil cards, Nightveil Sprite can give you some great mileage out of just one card. As far as Dimir Spybug and Thoughtbound Phantasm, you'll have to make the call if you think its worth it for just one copy of each. From experience playing a Dimir deck I drafted with lots of surveil but only one of each those creatures, they're amazing when you draw them, but also often I had games where I didn't draw them. Or they got immediately removed. Surveil helps filter your deck to get to them faster, so 2 of each would probably make it much better. Up to you.
You could probably replace Dimir Charm with one of the cards I mentioned that you like, since I think the best ability on the charm is usually going to be the counter, followed by the removal, and you have a fair number of counters and some removal already.
Unmoored Ego is cool but if your friends/playgroup are also playing "guild kit" style with few duplicates, then it probably wouldn't make much sense in the deck, unless you have that one pesky friend that's always rocking 3-4x of a particularly annoying card that you need to nip at the bud.
Whispering Snitch and Enhanced Surveillance are also fun if you feel like you're surveiling enough to make it worth it. Though one could also say, if you're surveilling a lot then Enhanced Surveillance is a bit unnecessary overkill.
Also keep in mind, I don't think Whispering Madness would be nearly as useful without something like Notion Thief, outside of a scenario where you only have a couple cards and your opponent/s have a full hand. If the scenario is reversed, you'll only be helping them out. However, with Notion Thief it basically becomes a reusable "opponent discards hand, you discard and redraw a full hand" or some such.
Kinda hard for me to answer specifically "replace A B C with X Y Z" since a deck with few duplicates is generally less consistent in the direction it's trying to go. Some fun cards here though for you to consider.
Oh by the way, I didn't realize this at first so I'll throw this in here in case you didn't already know, but you can bounce Etrata back to your hand after damage to get her whole "hit counter exile" wincon thing and avoid reshuffling her ;)
9 months ago
Welp, seems I only have 2 Jace's Phantasms OTL. I looked through some cards and selected possible replacements for the Phantom Monsters and Assassinates which are as follows:
3 of each Fill with Fright
4 of each Doorkeeper
10 months ago
Thanks for the comments on Spirits Wall.
What do you guys use to value your decks? We use Deckstats.net Un-FLICKING-believable!!!!!!!!!! Deck. $60.82 - Basic Lands $1.10 = $59.72. We always found TCGPlayer.com (Sidebar) was always missing cards (Caution triangle), and was so variable made it unpleasant. Interested to know what you guys settled on.
Rakdos Charm in all honesty is not the best, but it is modular (graveyard protection), and it kills a go-wide token strategy that you indicated to have issues with. Also, or alternatively, you can run board clearing, like Chandra's Ignition or Whipflare.
Ontop of Dualcaster Mage + Ghostly Flicker + Piranha Marsh, Archaeomancer + Peregrine Drake also work.Animate Dead + Worldgorger Dragon can also, but he is high risk. Maybe some additional Tutors to consistently get the Ghostly Flicker.
Rite of Replication + Dualcaster Mage / Naru Meha, Master Wizard is infinite Wizards (Don't even need to kick it). Rite of Replication is good on it's own too, especially with all the ETB's you run. Add a Gray Merchant of Asphodel and that's a win-con (unless the opponent is playing heavy life gain), does 60 damage to each opponent ( x 6 Gray Merchant of Asphodel + 5 triggers) by itself, and you gain 180 life.
I see the mana fixing in the base, but so many tapped lands can slow you down too much. May overcome this with the ramp?
Dinrova Horror I understand he can be a powerhouse, and recurring him makes him good, but High CMC, and can't target yourself (efficiently anyway).
Dreamscape Artist that is a hell of a price to pay, I wouldn't. If it could pull any land maybe, but not basic.
I'm not sure Duplicant is effective enough, and high CMC, for his $ cost in a budget format. There's lots of ETB's to abuse, for sure, he is one of them, but not sure worth it. Would rather have money for a Rite of Replication.
Withered Wretch and Ingot Chewer are ok, but I would rather have a Rakdos Charm, I realize can't flicker them, but those creatures aren't the greatest anyway, and Withered Wretch doesn't benefit from flicker.
I would play but evaluate Discovery / Dispersal, doesn't provide any card advantage, have to see how often it is Surveil a card into the graveyard that you return as a %. If it inconsistently works, I wouldn't run it. If you find your usually recurring the card it throws, or your aggressive enough to dig for a combo piece, might be ok. Hard to evaluate.
Nightscape Familiar is not a terrible ramp, and he has Regenerate, so can block Non-Flample pretty good.
Devastation Tide scares me to, because you probably rebuild your board the slowest (or close to the slowest). I wouldn't want to reset myself, after doing all the ramping work. Might be situational good on occasion, but rarely on a miracle. There is a blue card (not Cyclonic Rift that does opponents stuff, name escapes me now, but it has a very high CMC)
Commit / Memory at CMC4 seems pretty high too. Seems to much, lose the game with it in hand and unable to cast, or saving CMC4 and don't end up using it. Not Flash or anything (other than the copy spell guys) to really utilize the saved mana, or draw, etc. Some with the artifact returns/recur though.
Burnished Hart is really good, I know he doesn't ETB, but if you can recur him, lots of ramping. A little $ expensive too.
Most of your drawing is CMC 3+ which, I understand early turns your playing tapped lands for the most part, so you're slowly moving, then turn 3-5 your trying to draw. You have a couple tutors, but you might get overwhelmed before you can get to it. Luckily in a multi-pod, you'll probably be left alone for a while, but hard to evaluate if your fast enough. Since you restrict to only Tier 4+ commanders, you may have enough time, our league doesn't restrict, just restricts the budget, Animar or Brago, you'd never get ahead of, so you have that going for you!
Razaketh's Rite is high CMC, but the Cycling makes it playable if drawn in opening rounds.
Sever the Bloodline is great for Horde removal too (or indestructible), or Bile Blight. Not sure how often you see it though, we have 1/1 Snake and 2/2 Wolf and */* Vampire in our league. Tragic Slip too (instant speed).
I like the draw on Illusionist's Stratagem but the CMC4 sucks, it's still good though because it triggers the 2 creatures, which you need.
Custodi Lich is awesome (for the extra draw and the sacrifice), but his $ and his CMC5 make him not budget friendly. Plus he many not even get the target your really want to kill, and sorcery speed. Once the Monarch is on the table, if you don't have a way to take it back, you may actually hurt yourself by giving away card advantage.
Good deck idea, like the flicker. +1.
11 months ago
PauperPower good call man...just put a Dinrova Tron deck together and it's killer combo is Dinrova Horror + Mnemonic Wall + Ghostly Flicker -bouncing all of an opponent's lands back to their hand and watching them bin them is a blast!
1 year ago
Don't get me wrong, the good reprints are amazing and the set overall is great. The feel of some of these is very odd though.
Reminds me of the junk plane from Thor, Ragnarok where stuff just shows up from other places. Maybe it's supposed to? Is there background to this?
1 year ago
What about Eternal Witness, Imperial Recruiter, Dinrova Horror, Fierce Empath, Goblin Electromancer, Gurmag Angler, Herald of the Host, Jagged-Scar Archers, Karametra's Acolyte, Kiln Fiend, Lorescale Coatl, Qasali Ambusher, Shipwreck Singer, Siren of the Silent Song, Slippery Bogle, Swift Warkite, Tithe Drinker?
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