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Can I get a hand with building a Yidris chaos deck? I think it is done but I need some help just trying to make sure the deck is a viable and not too late game focused and I don't really have an accurate way to test the deck without buying it first. Your help would be really great. Cascading Chaos, Decent into Madness

July 23, 2017 8:56 p.m.

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FYI this combo doesn't work, exploration increases the amount of land you can play per turn. bouncing it doesn't change the total number of lands played that turn. Cloudstone Curio+Amulet of Vigor+Gruul Turf+Exploration+Need for Speed:

Play Gruul Turf (GT), it untaps, get an elemental token, tap it for , bounce it, play Exploration, play GT, untap and tap and bounce it, get an elemental, play NfS, bounce Exploration and so on. Infinite tokens!!

July 15, 2017 12:20 p.m.

This doesn't look like a budget deck?

July 14, 2017 1:36 p.m.

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Ashmed Thanks, and I have some card choice debates to start with you!

Learn from the Past or Mnemonic Nexus? learn draws a card which is good, nexus is graveyard hate and recursion in one. both instant which i really like. Both are 4 drops which i seem to be getting a lot of now.

Isochron Scepter is great! I would need to adjust the budget to run it though. Maybe when i get bored of Turnabout I'll swap in the scepter.

I hope to deal with hexproof creatures with my mass bounce nonsense, like AEtherize and Evacuation

I had Snap in the first build of the deck, i swapped it for Into the Roil. hitting any nonland permanent was the big upgrade i think

Mizzium Skin seems out of place, I don't need my commander to live to do well. A lot of the other creatures are virtual copies of others so any one piece isn't vital, unlike your talrand deck I assume.

Lat-Nam's Legacy looks amazing! just need to find a cut for it. I guess i could take out Frantic Search, I'm not to sure...


I agree that running multiples of good cards is a smart move, I guess I'm just not sold on Enigma Drake yet. the deck has played pretty well with the token angle, also Runechanter's Pike turns any creature into a drake.

Guttersnipe is a really good card, I just don't know what to cut for it. Right now i have 19 cards that aren't instants or sorceries. Taking any out is hard, that's why i like asking folks for help. I'm too attached to all the little trickery nonsense to really think hard about cutting them.

I could probably create a sideboard to test out new ideas and create different gameplans. Like cut the Whir of Invention, Aetherflux Reservoir and the Elixir of Immortality for Enigma Drake, Spellheart Chimera and either Mnemonic Nexus or Learn from the Past. Learn something from those cards and see how they play different.

July 7, 2017 3:43 p.m.

ok then what about Deepfathom Skulker? Call to the Kindred's hits don't seem that good anyway. You're best is Seshiro the Anointed and drops off pretty quick from there it looks like

July 7, 2017 3:14 p.m.

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I really like Treasure Cruise over Plea for Power. Look at all your 1 and 2 mana instants and sorceries that are hitting the graveyard, those power out treasure cruise super early. Frantic Search could be good too, free spells are good i hear. Fellwar Stone could be good to. untapped mana rock over Coldsteel Heart and there's a good chance at least one of your opponents are running some of your colors.

July 7, 2017 11:02 a.m.

What about the cuts I suggested? Do you really need Gaea's Anthem? And if you like that effect why not add more cards that it benefits ie. Snake Basket. You don't need a lot of mana to make the basket good and with all your better anthems it dosen't seem bad.

Is Call to the Kindred good with you low snake count? seems like you're just asking for card disadvantage. maybe add Plea for Power, Harmonize, or Concentrate over it?

July 7, 2017 10:55 a.m.

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If you want to win with Triskaidekaphobia look at adding Vizkopa Confessor or Phyrexian Processor for the lolz.

July 5, 2017 9:12 p.m.

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Fellwar Stone, Mind Stone, Star Compass could replace 3 mana rocks

If you liked kor cartographer you'll love Solemn Simulacrum

Aetherflux Reservoir can't find a home in here???

having Bloodshot Cyclops as redundancy seems good

Gift of Immortality wasn't good?

Marshal's Anthem could be good

Everflowing Chalice is another good mana rock

I really like the Knollspine Dragon in your maybeboard. maybe over crumbling colossus?

Thawing Glaciers is great for mana hungry commander decks.

What was wrong with Spinerock Knoll? seems great for you deck

July 5, 2017 9:08 p.m.

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Enlightened Tutor gets you land tax when you behind, protects you with ghostly prison, and draws cards with staff of nin. all around greatness

Gift of Immortality might be better than Shielded by Faith, especially if you end up going voltron

Angelic Overseer just seems like a big dude, no extra value. Possible cut?

I'm not sure i get the Approach of the Second Sun. you plan on casting it once, then wait until 7 turns pass and hope noone kills you?

If you're going compeditive Armageddon seems like a win if your ahead on board

July 5, 2017 8:51 p.m.

some more possible cuts could include

Gaea's Anthem, Call to the Kindred

Creeping Renaissance for Seasons Past? or go big with Praetor's Council!

Maybe add some ninja's for value with your commander's ability?

Ninja of the Deep Hours, Mistblade Shinobi, Sakashima's Student are good ones

Snake Basket is on tribal theme

July 5, 2017 8:36 p.m.

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Rupture Spire and Transguild Promenade could be basics. you're a 2 color deck i don't think you need to slow yourself down this much to get good mana

Grixis Panorama, Jund Panorama, Tainted Peak, Terramorphic Expanse, Evolving Wilds

Sword of Kaldra is a way to ping and exile with your commander

Fellwar Stone, Mind Stone, Star Compass are good 2 mana rocks that might be better than Bloodstone Cameo

Archetype of Finality

Is Defiant Bloodlord good enough? Maybe cut it for curve reasons

Braid of Fire is VIP with olivia. just use her ping ability in your upkeep for no downside! Yeah no mana burn!!!

Metallic Mimic seems good

Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet

Worn Powerstone could be good, power out your expensive threats

Pawn of Ulamog gives you a little extra value, might be better than some common vampire

another possible cut could be Hall of Triumph, your other anthemn effects are stronger

July 5, 2017 8:24 p.m.

anything with extort that's at least a little good. Basilica Screecher, Kingpin's Pet, Treasury Thrull, Thrull Parasite or Pontiff of Blight

Battlegrace Angel possibly not good enough

Blood Artist or Falkenrath Noble

Bloodbond Vampire for a back up karlov. this is iffy

Chant of Vitu-Ghazi, remember to block then tap for convoke.

Contemplation, combo off!

Disciple of Griselbrand, or Disciple of Bolas let you convert a big karlov to something else

Honor the Fallen - on theme graveyard hate that's also a combat trick

Mastery of the Unseen this needs a lot of mana to be great, but maybe you'll get some good use out of it. It's kinda iffy though

Patron of the Kitsune and Righteous Cause are VIP's with karlov

Resplendent Mentor this could be an all star if you go heavy white

Royal Herbalist combat tricks for karlov

Soldier of the Pantheon

Suture Priest

Vampiric Rites

Vizkopa Confessor

Wingmate Roc

Exsanguinate is good

Well of Lost Dreams and Alhammarret's Archive are nifty but expensive on the $budget$

Use all the life you gain for benefits, like card draw! Ambition's Cost, Ancient Craving, Graveborn Muse, Night's Whisper, Ob Nixilis Reignited, Phyrexian Arena, Read the Bones, Dark Tutelage, Underworld Connections

or recursion Phyrexian Reclamation

budget cuts might include, Ajani Goldmane, Lightning Greaves (this might be Swiftfoot Boots), Angelic Chorus

Some possible cuts

Rupture Spire, Shimmering Grotto, Transguild Promenade - two color decks don't need to slow down this much for mana fixing

Sacred Cat dosen't seem strong enough for commander

Bond of Agony seems bad, maybe Exsanguinate

Orzhov Charm What mode are you adding this for?

Doom Blade could be Go for the Throat if your meta/budget allows for it

Darksteel Ingot, Orzhov Cluestone, Orzhov Keyrune could be cut for a 2 mana rock, Fellwar Stone, Mind Stone, Star Compass. Maybe one of those

Blind Hunter, Blood Tithe, Agent of Masks, Certain Death don't seem strong enough

July 5, 2017 8:05 p.m.

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rereading your comments, someone suggested the Nim Deathmantle combo an i think it's a good add, you already have every other piece just need the equipment

is Basilisk Collar in here for a board wipe with Goblin Sharpshooter? If so i think you could cut that. That dosen't win you the game, just kills stuff. which gives you time but still seems like the weakest card.

maybe Simian Spirit Guide, possibly for a land?

Your deck looks very tight, I like it!!!

July 5, 2017 12:04 p.m.

I like it, looks annoying!

maybe add in 1ea artifact lands (Seat of the Synod) to help turn on Mox Opal.

cut Darksteel Ingot for a 2 drop mana rock, like Fellwar Stone

Mystical Tutor seems good, and you have the combo of Temporal Mastery

Mana Severance could be cute.

Simian Spirit Guide is a faster narset

I feel like Relentless Assault dosen't do enough extra to be worth it

no Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded????????????

maybe a Windfall dump your hand early then refill

July 5, 2017 11:50 a.m.

isaelis Thanks for your comments!

Opal Palace is in because it turns Rith, the Awakener into a 7/7 at least and therefore a 3 hit commander kill on somebody. I kinda like the challenge of running no Command Tower as well, I need to put the deck together and get mana screwed a couple times before I wise up and take your advice

The reason I'm running all the mana dorks is so if i hit with Rith I will have a bunch of colored permanents to get extra tokens with, also it helps with Glare of Subdual and other creature matters cards. Again I'm probably going to make the deck, get wrathed once and lose everything and not do anything for the rest of the game to make me realize the error of my ways. But until then it's all concepts

Kazandu Tuskcaller! That's a budget card I'm looking for! I'll throw it in the maybeboard to remember it when i start making adjustments.

July 5, 2017 11:36 a.m.

hosshughes Thanks for looking!

do you think Enigma Drake or Spellheart Chimera is better?

I think Oona's Grace is a better Think Twice, how about you?

Gitaxian Probe is kinda $pricey$, and Peek is an instant.

Thought Vessel and Reliquary Tower are cards i really want to add

I just added Jace's Sanctum and it put in work today. Do you think the enchantment is better than the cheaper creature?

I'm really not aiming at storming off in one turn, do you think hitting the table multiple times with Guttersnipe and bringing attention to myself is worth the damage I deal?

July 4, 2017 8:47 p.m.

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Your decks look great! I've been on a budget building kick recently as well and have built a Jori En, Diving on a Budget deck that I would appreciate a look over from the master budget deck creator! Thanks in advance

July 4, 2017 12:21 p.m.

Looks like a great deck!

could Peek be worth it? maybe over slip through space?

Retraced Image is a cute ramp spell. you reveal an island and put it into play

Thought Scour and Mental Note are more one mana cantrips

Pongify is another kill spell, maybe over vapor snag?

Into the Roil over disperse?

Lightning Greaves over swiftfoot boots?

do you like Anticipate over telling time?

would you want 2 mana counterspells over some of your 4 drop ones? like Arcane Denial over discombobulate for example?

I've been debating putting Aethersnatch in my Jori En deck, have you had good expirences with it?

If you have the time I've been working on my Jori En, Diving on a Budget and i think it plays similar to your deck, maybe you could take a look?

July 4, 2017 12:01 p.m.

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I really like the list! I'm jealous of the mana curve for sure!

No Snow-Covered Mountain? Why the artifact lands? They seem to open your mana base to artifact destruction for no benefit?

It looks like your deck is mostly blue cards, might be worth taking out Vivid Crag for a blue-red dual land (Izzet Guildgate) that way you can run out of vivid counters to play your nonsense and still have access to red.

Is Mistfire Adept good enough? Do you win most games with commander damage or random beats backed up with your commander?

maybe swap Mystic Speculation for Oona's Grace?

Arcane Denial is easy on the mana base and might be better than Hindering Light, also the fallen empires version is super cheap$

Treasure Cruise could be good with all this spells going to the graveyard, delve the full amount!

July 4, 2017 11:46 a.m.

I really like your list! I have an Izzet deck I'm working on as well and if you can spare a look I'd appreciate it, Jori En, Diving on a Budget

So for your deck,

Is Burn from Within worth it? If you're trying to kill players and whatnot is Banefire better?

Maybe Incinerate could be swapped for Reality Shift?

Could Wild Ricochet have a place in here?

Fellwar Stone and Star Compass might be better than some of the three mana rocks, especially Darksteel Ingot. How often do you crack Izzet Cluestone to draw a card? In an average 10 game stretch?

Izzet Chronarch could be Archaeomancer if you want to lower the curve. The multicolor might matter if you get Crackleburr going but still seems good.

you have 7 sorcery spells you're giving flash with Hypersonic Dragon, is it still worth it?

Desolate Lighthouse helps turn situational cards into new stuff, like if you're playing a green opponent with Pyroblast in hand.

Grixis Panorama and Terramorphic Expanse are fetch lands that are easy on the budget

how has Mana Flare preformed for you? doubling mana for your opponents seems risky, but i would like to hear your expirence with it

Is Lightning Greaves better than Swiftfoot Boots for you? or do you not like the shroud?

I see in your maybeboard you're considering Turnabout, FYI that card combos pretty hard with Nivix Guildmage if you want to go that route.

July 4, 2017 11:20 a.m.


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