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Creature — Elf Druid
Tap: Add an amount of (Green) to your mana pool equal to Viridian Joiner's power.
Viridian Joiner Discussion
7 hours ago
Some better counterspells would fit nicely as well.
1 week ago
Update #1: Stoneforge Mystic is out (due to being sold) and Marwyn, the Nurturer has taken her place as a second, and possibly better, Viridian Joiner . Autumn's Veil is out for the better Veil of Summer .
1 month ago
Actually, most people don't scoop, even when it's clear I'm going to win. They want to see the wincon first. Finale is used pretty much purely as a Green Sun's Zenith in this deck, and Walking Ballista is the best one card wincon for these reasons. One, it can be tutored which is extremely relevant. Two, you can get it with Duskwatch Recruiter Flip, which if you have infinite mana and one tutor, you can get the recruiter and play Walking Ballista from there, and you have access to Eternal Witness and Skullwinder in case of counters. Three, it only requires infinite mana, as opposed to infinite storm. Aetherflux Reservoir requires more cards to actually win, and you whiff if you have infinite mana and Reservoir in hand, but no source of card draw or tutor or storm generation. Ballista still wins the game in that place. Viridian Joiner is no doubt a bad card, I just don't know what to cut for a duplicate of my commander, and in the case when Marwyn gets taken by a Gilded Drake or something, the best bet is probably just Priest of Titania anyway. Viridian Joiner is also a dead card in 95% of situations, but it does have its benefits. Finally, Duskwatch Recruiter Flip is the second best draw outlet in the deck ( Staff of Domination will always be better), but Duskwatch Recruiter Flip has never underperformed for me. Riftsweeper on the other hand seems like a meta call, when I play cEDH exiling cards are never really a problem.
1 month ago
Just a tiny bit slow, you can always Finale the bears for lethal, but that's probaly overkill. The only problem with this deck - people just scoop when they realize what's up. Why did you cut Aetherflux Reservoir ? This deck sure can be fast and ballista can be tutored, but if someone FoWs it? I also run Viridian Joiner as a backup plan. Doesn't die to a pinger, costs the same sans ability to pump himself with counters. And maybe it's a little spreading too much, but I've also included Riftsweeper in place of Duskwatch Recruiter Flip since he's been very underperforming
2 months ago
shadowmage I think I might try Mirror Entity again; I like how it also can protect against Toxic Deluge , and if I do I'll try the Ranger-Captain as well. I'll test the Devoted Druid combo, I'm just concerned with Vizier of Remedies being a dead card without the druid. I do like the idea of cards like Uncage the Menagerie being able to tutor for both combo pieces though.
Also, just a suggestion, but Selvala, Heart of the Wilds works similarly to Marwyn, the Nurturer and Viridian Joiner for the purposes of Umbral Mantle , if you want a third copy of that effect in your deck (I'm not playing that or the joiner, but that's just because they are only mediocre without the mantle, and I like having a good average card quality).
4 months ago
Hey, saw your comment on my page so I thought I'd check some of your Oathbreaker decks out. This deck reminds me of a deck I had back during original Zendikar. This was before I got into commander, so all I played was casual 60 card decks. The deck was based around Gigantomancer of all things because my friend said it was a terrible card, so I set to prove him wrong. The idea of it was to use Gigantomancer 's ability to boost the power of my Viridian Joiner s and utilize untap shenanigans as well as other mana dorks to establish crazy mana bases. I would win by casting Gelatinous Genesis or maxing tower counters on Helix Pinnacle . Sure it was complete jank, but man those were the days!
Anyway! In regards to this deck, I really like it! One thing I would ask is if Blightsteel Colossus would be better substituted by Kozilek, Butcher of Truth ? I'm aware of how awesome the colossus is, but Kozilek acts as both removal & draw for your deck. Both inevitably win games so maybe it doesn't matter, but just an idea.
Either way, thanks for the trip down memory lane! +1 from me on the deck! Love it!
4 months ago
4 months ago
The core components of hardened scales are expensive because they don't have good replacements, but that doesn't mean you are out of luck.
The big secret to 'upgrade paths' is that its often cheaper to look at the expensive cards and see what decks you can build with them, then build an entire deck around the next bunch you get in rather than trying to keep running the same strategy.
If I was looking at starting with scales and foothills, I'd look at an Abzan Gavony Township / Karn's Bastion 'counters matter' deck- the golgari hydras list would be a good start for the kind of cards to look at- creatures that put counters on themselves. I feel that most of the hydras would not fare excellently in my current meta, so some scouting is advised.
However where you look should be different- cards recently in print but rotating out of standard are way cheaper, often to the point that modern archetypes are defined after a set rotates out of standard- as was the case with hardened scales. When combined with cards that 'didn't make the cut', or were one-ofs in nieche decks you get something pretty great.
A bunch of merfolk with a +1/+1 counter theme are rotating, and its worth testing sutai merfolk- I doubt it'll be great for you unless you are planning to build into full merfolk.
Marwyn, the Nurturer and Incubation Druid offer an interesting combo option with older cards like Viridian Joiner and Gyre Sage , that may become a playable archetype, and is notable because Umbral Mantle / Training Grounds /manland is already a thing.
I expect Vivien's Arkbow to retain some of its price as people realise how good it is in modern, which is neat as an artifact supporting the kind of midrange strategy you'd want to transition into an 'artifacts matter aggro' list.
Affinity tools like Springleaf Drum , Ornithopter , Signal Pest , Vault Skirge , Cranial Plating and Etched Champion are all still relatively cheap, Thoughtcast and Galvanic Blast and are likely playable in a more midrange strategy, even if that will likely leave you weak to all the affinity answers floating around.
All told, muck around with some decklists before going out and buying a bunch of cards- there is a lot out there which might work great, given tinkering time. If you want to play right away, jump in with the most budget list involving scales and constrictor you can find, then build out based on what you think is a good deal.
Viridian Joiner occurrence in decks from the last year
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