Juniper Order Ranger

Juniper Order Ranger

Creature — Human Knight

Whenever another creature enters the battlefield under your control, put a +1/+1 counter on that creature and a +1/+1 counter on Juniper Order Ranger.

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Custom Legal
Quest Magic Legal

Juniper Order Ranger Discussion

5OhmResistor on Persist Combos: Do +1/+1 counters …

1 month ago

Hey guys,

I am a new MTG player (been playing for ~5 months) and I need help understanding a concept about Persist. I've been working on my Ghave, Guru of Spores deck. It seems like one of the most prevalent and game winning combos are persist combinations. From my understanding, all you need is a sac outlet, something that gives ETB +1/+1 counters, and a persist creature. Thus, from my logic, something like Viscera Seer , Juniper Order Ranger , and Kitchen Finks could give me infinite life, infinite counters, and infinite scry.

With this being said, my pod/group tells me that an equal amount of +1/+1 counters and -1/-1 counters do not negate each other in terms of status effect. In order words, they DO cancel each other out in terms of power and toughness of a creature but they DO NOT cancel in terms of status effect. Meaning once a creature receives a -1/-1 counter, regardless of whether this counter is mathematically nullified by a +1/+1 counter, the status/presence of the -1/-1 counter is still there, meaning that Kitchen Finks would not be able to come back to the battlefield due to the -1/-1 counter regardless of how many +1/+1 counters it has. Think of the -1/-1 counter as like a label on a creature. I can clarify on this a little more if you guys like and also ask my friends more about their rationale.

Overall, I have never thought about this reasoning until I played with my friends yesterday. Half of my combo lines involve Persist and the idea that -1/-1 counters cannot be nullified if an equal amount of +1/+1 counters are given handicaps my deck from a competitive point of view. Thus, I need you guys to help me settle the debate; am I wrong on this? If not, how do I convince my group?

BrassLord on Apex of Death

2 months ago

If you end up leaning into the +1/+1 theme, Sweet-Gum Recluse is an underrated gem in your deck! 0 power means that whenever you mutate your commander, you can fetch this guy out of the bin for free. And the wording on it means that you get to place 3 +1/+1 counters on each of the creatures you just got from the grave! Juniper Order Ranger is along those same lines of good counters!

Buried Alive can be another decent card, though I think it's more useful if you're going for more of a combo win with something like a Saffi loop. If you're wanting to go the turbo route, Hermit Druid can put in some work to get your graveyard set up. Golgari Grave-Troll is the same idea.

Body Snatcher is a weird old card that can help get your graveyard and recursion going.

If you're looking for something more general oriented, Spore Frog Kami of False Hope can shut down combat based decks, and can be frustrated when paired with recursion like Gift of Immortality .

Hope that gives you some ideas! I was initially going to suggest more lands, but in goldfishing you seem to be in a sweet spot for mana!

Exit777 on Hamza

2 months ago

fun deck :) Some suggestions that could be good role players here are cards that put counters on creatures on ETB and similar, so Good-Fortune Unicorn , Renata, Called to the Hunt , Juniper Order Ranger and Felidar Retreat . And Crystalline Crawler and Workhorse would be excellent mana dorks ;)

also not sure if you want to go in that direction but some neat combo pieces would be the new Heliod, Kitchen Finks and Woodfall Primus.

Ilmu011 on +1 life gain

9 months ago

I made that suggestion based on your commander. Your commander doesn't really fit the concept of lifegain with +1/+1 counters. Choose a theme and stick with it. +1/+1 counter centered decks would much more synergize with Atraxa, Praetors' Voice or Reyhan, Last of the Abzan + Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker.

EDHREC is a great website to find some cards that might fit your deck. You can either search for card suggestions by theme, by commander, or a combination of both.

Sorry, Hyperlinks don't seem to work here:


+1/+1 counter theme based suggestions https://edhrec.com/themes/p1-p1-counters


Lifegain theme based suggestions https://edhrec.com/themes/lifegain


suggestions based on your commander https://edhrec.com/commanders/doran-the-siege-tower


There is also a useful site called mtgassist, that helps you find cards that are similar to another card. For example, if you think that a card like Solidarity of Heroes really fits the theme of your deck, you can enter that card there and you will get a bunch of other cards that have a similar effect.


https://www.mtgassist.com/cards/Journey-into-Nyx/Solidarity-of-Heroes/


When I take a look at your deck, I see some cards that have no synergy with your deck at all. Like Canyon Jerboa. It neither synergizes with +1/+1 counters or lifegain, why is it in your deck? Same for Shadow Stinger or card Sea Gate Banneret. Every card that is in your deck should match the concept of it, else cut it out.

Also, a lot of the cards in your deck are straight out BAD, as in, there are cards that do the same thing, that are strictly better. It seems to me like you are trying to build a budget deck, but even then, I believe you would find MUCH better options than Turntimber Ascetic, Tajuru Snarecaster or Guul Draz Mucklord

For example Thornweald Archer, Abzan Falconer or Juniper Order Ranger

I would advise you to completely rebuild your deck, first pick a commander that matches the theme you want to go with, then use the websites I mentioned above to find some decent cards that go with it.

If you are on a budget you can also choose "Budget" on EHDREC for the most popular cards of a certain theme or commander with a more reasonable price.

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