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Numa, Joraga Chieftain
Legendary Creature — Elf Warrior
At the beginning of combat on your turn, you may pay . When you do, distribute X +1/+1 counters among any number of target Elves.
Partner (You can have two commanders if both have partner.)
1 month ago
Nice deck. +1 from me. My black green elf EDH deck is with Miara, Thorn of the Glade and Numa, Joraga Chieftain at the helm but very similar in some aspects (Miara & Numa Elves). So I have some suggestions for you:
With we untap abilities and the mass of elves you create Timberwatch Elf could be a nice addition.
Always nice in tribal token decks is Coat of Arms but this card depends on your meta of course.
Alas I cannot tell you what to cut for the cards.
2 months ago
As for things to cut, here is my list-
Cards to definitely cut- 1) Abomination of Llanowar he's just a big, dumb of elf with a target on his back for removal. There are better options. At least Drove of Elves has hexproof, but I wouldn't even play that. The only one I'd play is Jagged-Scar Archers, and that's because of its utility against flyers.
2) Elvish Rejuvenator He gets a land, but doesn't actually ramp you. And that is if you get a land- you might whiff. You have better options. If you really want this effect Sylvan Ranger costs one less mana and is guaranteed to not whiff.
3) Eyeblight Cullers 5cmc is just too much for something that only gives you three tokens on its death, and you have no mill synergy.
4) Golgari Findbroker This card was made for draft. It just costs too much for what it does. Its not just the four cmc, 2 and 2 is a high opportunity casting cost.
5) Harald, King of Skemfar He's basically a 3/2 with menace that replaces himself. The clause on Tyvar might seem good if you add him (which is good idea, btw- he'll be worth it even if he doesn't stick around too long), but even then you have to remember that he won't find Tyvar the majority of the time. Again, its nice he replaces himself and gives you some selection, but there are better options.
6) Jaspera Sentinel Dorks are great, but you have to tap two creatures for one mana, which is a bad rate in elves. There are better dorks suggested above.
7) Masked Admirers This is one of those cards that Wizards stuffs into every precon conceivable, even though its bad in most of them. We don't need it here.
8) Thornbow Archer He's only draining one life for each time he attacks. That isn't enough to justify his slot.
9) Voice of Many You get maybe three cards for four mana at most? He's not the worst and he does draw cards, but I've never liked him.
10) Voice of the Woods This might sound like a good use of your elves, but its better to pump your elves than to use them to summon elementals. Plus he costs five to cast.
11) Tergrid's Shadow We have a joke about this card in our playgroup, but in general it isn't what we want. Letting your opponents pick what they sacrifice means you'll rarely hit the thing you need to get rid of. You might as well just play Doom Blade or any other premium removal card in these colors. There are a lot!
12) Poison the Cup They just put this in the precon because foretell was a Kaldheim theme, but there are so many cheap (both in real world and mana cost) black removal cards that this one shouldn't make the cut.
14) Return Upon the Tide This just costs too much mana, and you have other better recursion pieces out there.
Cards to think about removing
1) Serpent's Soul-Jar This card could be good, but could also be a trap. Your graveyard is a resource, and exiling everything from it prevents mass recursion. Also, your opponents can target this with removal and you'll never get your stuff back. I'd probably just play Haunting Voyage, Patriarch's Bidding, and Living Death to get your goodies back for more fun!
2) Twinblade Assassins He does draw cards, and is probably at least as good as Phyrexian Arena while he lives. So you might keep him, but he costs 5cmc, so if you have enough card draw you might want to cut him.
4) Nullmage Shepherd This can allow us to remove problematic stuff. But tapping four elves is a bigger cost than we often want to pay. Something to think on.
5) Sylvan Messenger Again, this card does get us some draw, much like Lead the Stampede which I used to play does. I've just never found it good enough to include though. Nonetheless, you want at least ten pieces of draw, and this does count as that!
6) Eyeblight Massacre This will kill a lot of stuff, but will often leave what you most need to kill alive. Ezuri's Predation is a recently reprinted board wipe that is now more affordable and will wreck your opponents while leaving your stuff intact. In Garruk's Wake and Plague Wind cost a 25 cents each and will hose everyone but you, and because you are playing elves you can afford their cmc!
7) Ruthless Winnower Having played against this card I can attest that it is annoying, but your opponents will often kill it before it can have too much impact. If it were a lower cmc it would be a guaranteed in, at least it will take the heat off of more important cards. It is high at 5cmc though. Keeping it might be the right choice, but I'd at least consider it.
11 months ago
Some possible How Abouts: Abomination of Llanowar , Boreal Outrider (you might want some Snow-Covered Forest and Snow-Covered Swamp if you go this route), Elf Replica , Elvish Warmaster , Eyeblight's Ending , Gilt-Leaf Ambush , Harald, King of Skemfar , Jaspera Sentinel , Nadier's Nightblade , Numa, Joraga Chieftain , Path of Ancestry , Pendelhaven Elder , Prowess of the Fair , Quest for Renewal , Quirion Ranger , Reclamation Sage .
1 year ago
Hey, on a budget well done upgrading the precon.
There's some cards in the precon to consider adding:
- Sol Ring --> Essence Warden
- Arcane Signet --> Elvish Clancaller
- Command Tower --> 1x Swamp
- Timberwatch Elf --> Cultivator of Blades
- Numa, Joraga Chieftain --> Heedless One
- Elderfang Venom --> Deathsprout
- Pact of the Serpent --> Murder
- Path of Ancestry --> 1x Swamp
One problem with the precon is there's too many Swamps. Green mana is overall much more important to have than black mana. You still need black mana, but playing the same amount of Forests and Swamps hurts the consistency of having green mana early. This is especially problematic when playing so many green one drop Elves which you want to be able to consistently cast turn one. Consider cutting Swamps for more Golgari dual lands?
- Command Tower
- Llanowar Wastes
- Darkbore Pathway Flip
- Unclaimed Territory
- Blooming Marsh
- Path of Ancestry
Good luck with your deck.
1 year ago
Hey, I'm impressed, well done building your deck on a budget with like 90% cards from Commander Legends.
Commander Legends was an amazing set for Elves especially Miara. Unfortunately, to make any real impact from upgrades you're going to want to add more cards from other sets, but most cards you add could be $1 or less each and still make a huge impact.
An advantage of Elves as a tribe is ramp, more specifically one drop mana Elves and Elves who can tap to make a lot of mana. No other tribe has as many one drop mana creatures or creatures who can make a ton of mana. By adding more mana Elves you can reduce the amount of lands while increasing the amount of Elves. More ramp from Elves is wanted by both your Commanders to cast Nadier quicker and to pay more into X with Numa. Both of your Commanders don't do much without lots of ramp.
- Elves of Deep Shadow : can make black mana.
- Elvish Mystic
- Elvish Archdruid
- Marwyn, the Nurturer : less than $1.
- Elvish Guidance
- Viridian Joiner
- Wirewood Channeler : less than $1, can make black mana.
- Birchlore Rangers : can make black mana.
Archdruid is the budget Elf who defines the tribe since he's an anthem for Elves and can make as much green mana as Elves you control. Marwyn and Joiner are good with Numa, Joraga Chieftain since they want counters put on them, they care about how much power they have. Marwyn is also good with Elf tokens since each token that's created puts a counter on her. Guidance has excellent interaction with Arbor Elf if you enchant a Forest or Woodland Chasm .
- Prowess of the Fair
- Elderfang Venom
- Elvish Warmaster
- Lys Alana Huntmaster
- Elven Ambush
- Wolverine Riders
These cards would expand on the Elf token theme and Prowess is unique since it's an Elf that's not a creature. Expanding on the token strategy makes Nadier better. Warmaster is another mana sink to pump and give Elves deathtouch. Elderfang doesn't create tokens like the other cards, but it has good interaction with them. Letting you swing with your Elves and opponents have to make difficult decisions about what to do.
I offer more advice including cuts to make. Would you like more advice?
Good luck with your deck.
1 year ago
Hey, you have some amazing cards here Cradle, Hollow and Shepherd, but then there's all the creature removal spells, Sundail and Majesty, etc. which are subpar. Spells such as Aggressive Instinct don't interact with a Planeswalker Commander and most Elves have low power which is not what you want when you want a creature with high power for removal. Lots of cards that rely on a creature you control to have high power are not what you want with Elves.
My suggestions will be for Elf upgrades and some additional mana sinks to better use the ramp that Elves and Freyalise can make. It's already been suggested, but max out on all the one drop mana Elves as these are unique to Elves and a big reason to want to play the tribe.
- Elvish Mystic --> Aggressive Instinct
- Fyndhorn Elves --> Rabid Bite
- Heritage Druid --> Ram Through
- Boreal Druid --> Clear Shot
- Marwyn, the Nurturer --> Fyndhorn Elder
- Elvish Harbinger --> Drove of Elves
- Numa, Joraga Chieftain --> Elf Replica
- Quirion Ranger --> Ezuri's Archers
- Wirewood Symbiote --> Skyshroud Ranger
- Wirewood Herald --> Naturalize
- Eternal Witness --> Wren's Run Vanquisher
- Llanowar Tribe --> Greenweaver Druid
- Reclamation Sage --> Elvish Scrapper
Harbinger is an Elf tutor. Numa is a mana sink. Marwyn grows when you create a mana Elf with Freyalise. Ranger + Symbiote lets you bounce Ranger + Forest to untap an Elf such as Archdruid to make a lot of green mana. Ezuri and Shepherd are your best mana sinks, but consider others?
- Green Sun's Zenith --> Colossal Majesty
- Leyline of Abundance --> Door of Destinies
- Chord of Calling --> Seer's Sundial
- Craterhoof Behemoth --> Soul's Majesty
Zenith and Chord are tutors to use ramp with that can get Ezuri or Craterhoof or any other creature putting it onto the battlefield.
Some other cards to consider cutting for better options:
- Broken Bond
- Gleeful Sabotage
- Might of the Masses
- Garruk's Uprising
- Desert Twister
Good luck with your deck.
1 year ago
it looks like to me that you just want to flood the board with your Elf tribal and do some hefty damage with your commander. it's not like you're struggling with mana in this deck with all those mana dorks.
Numa, Joraga Chieftain from commander legends might help with giving your commander that little push it needs for extra damage.
Descendants' Path is a tadbit risky to use, because sometimes it bottoms a card you really need, but you have 40 creatures nearly. Getting free stuff is allways fun!
Door of Destinies is also an awesome creature tribal option. You have so many cheap elves so this thing will get alot of value really quickly.
Herald's Horn is the go to tribal option. Cheaper elves, more elves.
except those the only thing that comes to mind other than what i've mentioned is that you need enough cards in hand to spend all that mana you have!
Ps: Some of these are a tadbit pricy
1 year ago
Solid list! I built a similar elf-tribal deck back when I started playing commander, and there are definitely new crazy pieces ( Allosaurus Shepherd is crazy good...and expensive). Looking at Commander Legends, the only elf card I thought might be usable is Rootweaver Druid as Gilanra, Caller of Wirewood is more big creature casts based, and Numa, Joraga Chieftain is mainly +1/+1 counters based. The only other mono-green elf that's new in the set is Fin-Clade Fugitives which is, in my opinion, not a great card. Outside the perviously listed cards Horizon Stone might be okay for the deck in case you get a ton of mana but don't yet have a clear finisher. I'm probably gonna rebuild this deck sometime soon, I cannibalized it to build a Chulane deck, but after some of the Commander Legends reprints I saw while opening packs, I got nostalgic about rebuilding it. Guess I'm gonna have to proxy the Shepherd till he gets reprinted or something. :/