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Orzhov Signet Discussion
5 days ago
Hey, what you have so far is fine with many good cards, but also quite a few cards that look out of place or could be replaced with better even budget options. I see that you're not finished yet with your first version since have only 18 lands as well as missing Command Tower.
I want to mention that if you want to gain life then a good way is playing flying Angels who have lifelink who you can cheat onto the battlefield with Kaalia or even cast. Gaining life from attacking Angels goes well with the overall game plan of cheating creatures onto the battlefield attacking.
After you add more lands to get 35-38 then also consider adding more ramp?
Cards such as Wanderer's Twig and Armillary Sphere are not ramp since they don't put the land you get onto the battlefield, it goes into your hand for a land drop. These types of cards are quite bad when there's actual mana rock ramp that could be added. Weathered Wayfarer also isn't ramp, but the difference is it can be a repeatable effect to get a land which is worth it from a one drop. A reason to add more ramp is as a backup plan to be able to cast high CMC creatures if and when Kaalia gets disrupted since don't count on having/controlling Kaalia all game.
I offer more advice. Good luck with your deck.
2 weeks ago
Hey, good work in progress so far for a first deck with an interesting concept.
Command Tower and Arcane Signet are two staples to consider adding. Consider adding some flying creatures who can disrupt your opponent to help you do keep the monarch and some repeatable sources of flying creatures?
- Archon of Emeria and Rule of Law can bring the game to a halt which helps you to keep the monarch.
- Windborn Muse and Ghostly Prison make it more difficult for opponents to attack you which helps you to keep the monarch.
- Aven Mindcensor: doesn't let your opponents tutor which can give you a big advantage.
- Luminarch Ascension: it cares about each opponent's end step meaning in multiplayer Commander that it can get counters quick.
- Court of Grace: another source of the monarch.
Blind Obedience can be opponent mana rock ramp disruption and shuts off haste of opponent's creatures who might want to attack you. With Cunning Rhetoric opponent may not want to attack you because then you'll exile card from top of their library.
The mana curve is very high here since you have so many 5 CMC, 6 CMC or higher cards. Cutting some of them for lower CMC cards and more ramp would help gameplay. More two drop mana rocks can make it easier/faster to cast Marchesa. Since she's a 4 CMC creature then a turn two mana rock can potentially let you cast her turn three if you make your land drops.
- Arcane Signet
- Fellwar Stone
- Thought Vessel: no max hand size can help when you're drawing a lot of cards with the monarch.
- Boros Signet
- Orzhov Signet
- Rakdos Signet
Some lands to consider adding in place of some basic lands that are within your budget to improve the manabase:
- Rainbow lands: Command Tower, Exotic Orchard, Path of Ancestry
- Fetch lands: Fabled Passage
- Mardu lands: Nomad Outpost
- Bond lands: Vault of Champions, Spectator Seating
- Pain lands: Caves of Koilos, Battlefield Forge
- Filter lands: Rugged Prairie, Fetid Heath, Graven Cairns
- Check lands: Dragonskull Summit, Isolated Chapel, Clifftop Retreat
- Tango lands: Smoldering Marsh
If you're playing Dark Depths then consider Thespian's Stage? Stage is the land that combos with Depths to get Marit Lage. When you control Depths and Stage pay 2 mana to copy Depths with Stage. Stage becomes Depths with no ice counters on it and the legendary rule will take place since you can't control two legendary Depths at the same time. Choose to keep Stage and remove Depths. Since Stage has no ice counters it's saced to create Marit Lage.
If interested I offer more advice including cuts to consider. Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Hey, well done so far on a budget.
Consider the Emeria Shepherd + Pyre of Heroes interaction with basic Plains? Shepherd is an Angel to reanimate because then she along with Plains can reanimate any nonland permanent. The interaction of these two cards comes from being able to sac an Angel to tutor for to cheat another one onto the battlefield and then reanimate the Angel you just saced with Shepherd. Just by playing a land Shepherd can get a nonland permanent into your hand such as Mind Stone to cast to help to trigger Firja.
Angel of the Ruins has a powerful ETB effect and is another nice Angel with Shepherd because any land can return Ruins to your hand to then plainscycle to search for a Plains. Another interaction with Pyre is repeatedly sacing the same Angel such as Angel of Despair and reanimating it with Shepherd as long as you have Plains.
Firja as a five drop starts the chain nicely with Pyre when saced to get a six drop Angel such as Valkyrie Harbinger and then Harbringer the next turn gets Shepherd. From there get back Harbringer with Shepherd and then sac it later on to get Sephara, Sky's Blade.
Profane Tutor is a budget low CMC tutor that you cast from suspend. Open the Armory is a low CMC tutor to get Mask of Memory or Animate Dead. Dawn of Hope can do a lot when your Commander has lifelink as well as has evasion.
Court of Grace can be repeatable Angels as well as draw from the monarch. Flying Angels especially ones with vigilance can help to defend for you to keep the monarch, not letting your opponents do combat damage to you. Cleric Class is another one mana card that can help to gain life to trigger various effects and the other levels are good too.
Apprentice Necromancer has interaction with Sun Titan to repeatedly reanimate any 3 CMC or less permanent for one black mana. With Titan in your graveyard reanimate him with Necromancer. Titan ETB reanimates Necromancer and Titan has haste thus he attacks reanimates any other 3 CMC or less permanent. At your end step Titan is saced putting him in your graveyard to reanimate again with Necromancer on your next turn and repeat.
Titan can reanimate Evolving Wilds which is fuel for Emeria Shepherd. Because of Titan For one black mana you could repeatedly trigger Shepherd two times until you run out of Plains or nonland permanents to reanimate/recur. Patriarch's Bidding and Victimize are upgrades for some reanimate spells and Bidding is now a budget card.
Dark Ritual is one mana to help to cast a second spell to trigger Firja or use it to help to cast Firja since she's double black mana cost. Orzhov Signet, Talisman of Hierarchy, Mind Stone are some budget mana rock additions/upgrades. Caves of Koilos, Shineshadow Snarl, Snowfield Sinkhole, Path of Ancestry, Esper Panorama, Ash Barrens are some budget lands to consider adding.
If interested in any of these suggestions then I offer more advice of cuts to consider. Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Cards to remove-Cards to add in
Blood on the Snow- Slaughter the Strong . You only have 1 snow land, so this card really doesn't help you all that much. Slaughter will keep Sefris alive while killing almost everything else.
Planar Ally- Karmic Guide . There aren't many venture cards, sure. But you can do way better for 5 mana than Ally, especially since you have a venture enabler in the command zone. Karmic Guide will reanimate things, is a very powerful combo loop card, and is really cheap now due to a recent reprint.
Grave Endeavor- Either Ever After or Incarnation Technique . 7 Mana is a LOT in commander, and this one is pretty unreliable. The extra damage you do to someone will likely not be too impactful for the additional mana. These two cards provide better value for cheaper.
Champion of Wits- Eligeth, Crossroads Augur . Champion is unreliable and mana intensive. Eligeth is great because if you venture into the Dungeon of the Mad Mage, you're gonna scry 1, 2, then 3. Eligeth will turn those into card draw instead.
Rogue Class- Orzhov Signet . I think this deck could use a little more ramp, and Rogue Class doesn't really do anything until you get to level 3, which is very mana intensive. Even at level 3, it doesn't really jive with the rest of your strategy.
Revivify- Eerie Interlude or Semester's End . Both are more reliable and can trigger a ton of "enter the battlefield and venture" effects you have. This way, you can save your board from a wipe, or just get a ton of ETB's quickly. Revivify requires someone to wipe for you.
Phantom Steed- Magister Sphinx or Reya Dawnbringer . Honestly, it can be any huge creature you like. Since your deck is so focused on reanimator, you should include a few really big creatures that are super impactful to the game to reanimate. Right now the only big ones are Sepulchral Primordial and maybe Sun Titan
1 month ago
Hey, good work in progress and nice borderless alternative art Kaalia :)
Austere Command and Ruinous Ultimatum are two powerful board wipes. Both these wipes can be only opponent sided which can give you a huge board presence advantage. Kaalia really benefits from ramp as a backup plan to cast high CMC creatures if you can't cheat them onto the battlefield. My advice is find deck spots for more ramp.
- Arcane Signet --> Rapacious Dragon, since you have Goldspan Dragon, Rapacious is not needed.
- Rakdos, Lord of Riots --> Hellkite Punisher, subpar creature compared to the other seven drops.
If you only added two more ramp sources then these are the two to add. Rakdos can be cheated onto the battlefield with Kaalia and then he alone can be a backup being a source of colorless mana for ramp when he or any other creatures you control do combat damage to an opponent.
Can't go wrong with adding the the other Signets, more two drop ramp that's also color fixing to help the 20+ basic lands.
You have several really good lands Mesa, Foundry, Spectator, Vault, Haven, Gemstone, Savai, but then the rest of the manabase has much worse filler lands as well as 20 basic lands.
- Command Tower --> Akoum Refuge
- Exotic Orchard --> Bloodfell Caves
- Caves of Koilos --> Scoured Barrens
- Battlefield Forge --> Wind-Scarred Crag
- Nomad Outpost --> Temple of Malice
Tower is a staple land for multicolored Commander decks. Orchard is also a staple land for three or more color decks in multiplayer. If you only added these five they would improve the manabase quite a bit, but you could take it further and add more dual lands in place of some basic lands to help color fixing which in return helps gameplay.
Of course all these land suggestions are budget ones, there's many other more expensive price lands such as other Rainbow lands, more Fetch lands, more Shock lands, Filter lands, other Check lands.
Good luck with your deck.
2 months ago
Hey, you're welcome.
Some changes to consider:
- Vile Entomber --> Ankle Shanker
- Unmarked Grave --> Humble Defector
- Goblin Bombardment --> Mardu Ascendancy
- Viscera Seer --> Butcher of the Horde
- Karmic Guide --> Tajic, Blade of the Legion
- Ravenous Chupacabra --> Intrepid Hero
- Solemn Simulacrum --> Utter End
- Zephyr Boots --> Anointed Procession
- Exotic Orchard --> Temple of the False God
- Spectator Seating --> Wind-Scarred Crag
- Vault of Champions --> Temple of Triumph
- Talisman of Conviction or Boros Signet --> Darksteel Ingot
- Talisman of Hierarchy or Orzhov Signet --> Savai Crystal
Both Goblin Bombardment and Viscera Seer are sac outlets that add to the infinite combo here of Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit + Murderous Redcap . Anointed Procession is a good card, but it's an expensive price card that's not doing much here because there's not a strong token sub theme. By sub theme I mean 10 or more cards that care about tokens. You could add more creatures who create tokens when they ETB such as Siege-Gang Commander , but I don't think you need them.
Ankle Shanker is an attack trigger which you will not get when you reanimate him with Alesha. Creatures who have a tap activated ability are less good with Alesha since when you reanimate them with her they ETB tapped not letting them tap to activate.
3 months ago
Glad to hear it! Yeah sheesh I didn't even realize it was that much I remember it being like fifteen bucks a little while back, that's kind of insane- but hmm. Oh holy crap the synergy with Teysa Karlov and Felisa is kind of crazy, just noticed that too. But here are some ones I would recommend cutting, though if they are fun/interesting to you or serve a purpose I missed, I could obviously be wrong:
- Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts (insanely high CMC, and it doesn't seem to actively participate in the counters theme, just creates tokens, and I think Felisa does that quite well already.)
- Eventually with the budget swap out Keen Duelist for Dark Confidant ?
- Gonti, Lord of Luxury (not really sure what his purpose is related to the them)
- Possibly Deathbringer Liege (a little expensive in mana and not directly related to the theme while good)
- Ashen Rider (insanely expensive in mana, and not directly related to the theme)
- Butcher of Malakir (great but very expensive in mana and I feel like it could be cut to lower the mana cost)
- Maybe swap out 1-2 lands for things like Dark Ritual , Orzhov Signet
- Black Sun's Zenith (awsome but if you have a mass of tokens it'll kill them as long as they have 1 toughness)
- Also consider tribal for the tokens like a Coat of Arms would be insane with 7+ tokens, especially since they all have lifelink gosh)
- Infernal Offering (graveyard recursion is great but this could be pretty bad for you if opponents have powerful graveyards. Consider Beacon of Unrest / Command the Dreadhorde / Yawgmoth's Vile Offering .
Those are just some I see off the top of my head, if you look a little deep and really question how many times you play a card and utilize it, you might find some more! Sometimes its hard to cut a card you enjoy playing even if its fun so I'd recommend having a list of cards you can add for fun, and a list for effectiveness so you can play both sides! Hope this helps, I'm glad some suggestions are useful to you, and I'll let you know if I see any more possible cuts! Feel free to ask for any more assistance or if you have any questions I'd be glad to help.
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3 months ago
Hey, you don't need massive help. This is a good first version especially if it's your first deck.
Some advice is try to reduce the mana curve. A 3.5 avg CMC is high, reducing this number will help gameplay. You want to prioritize the four, five or higher CMC cards. Keep the best ones for your strategy and cut the others. This deck building process is called streamlining or "cutting the fat". Adding more draw and ramp will help game play.
An example, the best fours drops here are: Teysa, Smothering Tithe, Pitiless Plunderer, Luminous Broodmoth, Elenda, Anointed Procession. Best five drops and six drops here: Sidisi, Thalisse, Wurmcoil Engine, Elspeth.
All the others not named could be cut to reduce the mana curve. A five drop that has a powerful die trigger is Archon of Justice , it's an upgrade for Liesa, Shroud of Dusk . Solemn Simulacrum is a fine four drop for ramp and a draw trigger when it dies, it's an upgrade for Kor Cartographer .
Reducing the mana curve means cutting high CMC cards for lower ones. Some examples:
Cutting Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts , a seven drop, adding one drop Skullclamp . Skullclamp is one of the better cards with Teysa for a draw engine. It's die trigger draws four cards, it's very good with the 1/1 token theme and sac outlets.
Cutting Increasing Devotion , adding Viscera Seer , five drop for a one drop. You can create tokens from many other sources that have more interaction with Teysa than Devotion does. Seer is a one drop repeatable sac outlet who can also be repeatable filtering the top card of your library to help draws especially with Skullclamp.
Cutting Debtors' Knell , adding Phyrexian Reclamation . A seven drop that doesn't do anything the turn you play it for a one drop that's mana efficient repeatable creature recursion even at instant speed.
Adding more two drop mana rocks: Talisman of Hierarchy and Orzhov Signet to improve ramp by cutting some four drops such as Oketra the True and Ill-Gotten Inheritance . For your deck Oketra is an expensive price card that's a mana expensive source of tokens which doesn't have much interaction with Teysa.
- Teysa + Ashnod's Altar + Pitiless Plunderer + Reassembling Skeleton = infinite mana and infinite die triggers.
- Teysa + Ashnod's Altar + Nim Deathmantle + Ministrant of Obligation = infinite Spirits and infinite die triggers. Do this combo on your last opponent's turn to then on your next turn attack all opponents with infinite Spirits.
If interested I offer more advice. Would you like more advice? Good luck with your deck.