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Creature — Goblin
Haste (This creature can attack and Tap as soon as it comes under your control.)
Other Goblin creatures you control get +1/+1 and have haste.
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Goblin Chieftain Discussion
1 day ago
I love the deck!! I’m a massive doomsday fan so the idea of doing doomsday without needing lab man is kinda foreign to me. But I was wondering: if their purpose is for the doomsday turn generally, why not Workhorse as a better way to fix your mana (I know the ability costs colorless but it would help as a backup plan). Also, are there any viable lines with Goblin Chieftain and Mad Auntie for protection piles or something? Idk just was considering
1 week ago
My thoughts on each of these cards:
gladiuslucix's Mizzium Jumper Cables:
I like this card. It's fun, has lots of synergies, and has some good flavour. That said, while I think it might be neat to build with in kitchen table and in casual commander, as noted in the article, it's not quite powerful enough to see more competitive play. Four-drops that don't immediately make a difference are pretty problematic.
Since I still like it's function, my edit would be as follows:
; and a second ability like "When Mizzium Jumper Cables enters the battlefield, you may cast target instant or sorcery card with a converted mana cost of 1 from your graveyard without paying its mana cost."
Four mana for 2 damage, and an Opt, Thoughtseize, Lightning Bolt, or Path to Exile to boot is starting to get into the "playable" realm, though I still think you generally have better things to do on turn 4. I don't think this would be too game-breaking in limited either--there are generally a lack of playable 1-mana instant or sorcery spells, particularly at common.
Ithyn's Rocky Coastline
I disagree entirely with this review. While I think this is a tad better than most enters-tapped lands, as you can use it for mana in a pinch, I think it is entirely outclassed by pretty much any other land that enters untapped. Unless I was playing a deck with good synergies, I'd rather run a fast/check/pain land as my budget option.
I don't foresee this having that big of an impact on fetch lands' cost, as Boza suggested--fetch lands are just too good, and no competitive deck is going to want to be down a mana. The kinds of people who will want this land are building on a budget, and are not in the market for fetchesanyway. There flexibility and synergies make them better than Rocky Tar Pit, but still not in the same league as fetches.
I see no reason to limit this card to basics--I think the very design provides enough limitations to its power.
That's not to say I don't like this card. I think there's a place for lands that enter tapped (budget commander; limited; standard), and I really like the flexibility of this card. That it might have some interesting discard/cycling synergies is an added plus, making a mediocre land somewhat more playable--provided you've designed your deck to use it.
So, despite my argument against it being a powerful land, I fully think it has a place in the game, and support it as-is.
Mig-El's Leftraru, Indomitable Cacique
I have a number of issues with this card, but my biggest issues come from the colour pie.
Red makes sense in this card--Red is known for giving other creatures Haste, and 3/1 stats are exactly what I expect from an aggressive red creature.
White and Black is where things fall apart.
Let's look at White first.
Right now, there is only one mono-White card that grants your creatures hexproof--Shalai, Voice of Plenty--and even she has a Green/White colour identity. In fact, looking at all the cards that grant anything Hexproof, it's pretty clear it is the Green part of her colour identity that is providing Hexproof to the creatures, and the White to you.
While Drogskol Captain Sigarda, Heron's Grace are similar to this card in effect, Sigarda, Heron's Grace runs into the same issue as Shalai, Voice of Plenty, and Drogskol Captain's hexproof seems much more in line with Blue's Lord of the Unreal than White's lack of mono-colored equivalent.
Moving on to Black--there is no reason for this card to have Black in its casting cost, other than flavour, and I don't think that is sufficient on its own.
How would I change this, while sticking with the original design idea of assissting Kaalia?
My revised copy of this card:
Creature - Human Berserker
Other creatures you control have haste.
Sacrifice Indomitable Cacique: Target creature you control gains indestructible until end of turn.
Breaking down the revisions. The general concept follows that of Fires of Yavimaya and Firewake Sliver. Three mana is pretty reasonable for giving your creatures haste (Goblin Chieftain, Fervor, Blur Sliver, etc.), so I think this is priced fairly well CMC wise.
The Indestructible ability is pretty reasonably costed as well--Selfless Spirit provides the same ability for , and also has two power and evasion.
The lack of legendary keeps it from being a commander--I think having an "everyone has haste" card always in-hand is problematic. While you could make an argument for a tribal limitation, that's pretty insignificant--that just creates a tribal deck where, in effect, "everyone still has haste, we're just a bit more cohesive in our type."
Those were my thoughts. Overall, though I disagree with a lot of what was said in the article, this is a pretty fun topic. It's always interesting to see what people find reasonable or not in a card.
3 weeks ago
4 weeks ago
Thanks for the advice, I recognize I need more cheap goblins and ways to produce tokens, and as you say the first 2 turns are difficult right now. Foundry Street Denizen would be a nice addition and I already have a set of Goblin Instigator. I'll take what you said in consideration and work on the mana curve.
I was trying something different but it doesn't work as expected to be honest, mainly because I fail to produce enough goblins in the first turns.
Boggart Shenanigans is useful but not enough to keep 4 of them, I might bring it down to 2 copies.
Thanks again !
4 weeks ago
The best way to get this working well is to remember your curve and gameplan- without the stabilisation tools that most other tribes enjoy, goblins will usually try and race the opponent, finishing out with grenade and lightning bolt. Its tried, tested, and enough cards have been printed to support that plan that it runs smoothly.
Running matsterwork into Thud as extra goblin grenades is a strong option- no problems with that- it just needs a stronger creature plan to support it.
You really only have 4 1-drops maindeck (the firebrands) so turn 1 plays will be awkward- wardriver and fodder are decent 2 drops, but most of your creatures start the 'go wide' plan in the 3-5 drops slots, and only have haste by virtue of Goblin Warchief. This is gonna be awkward, because this is usually the point where the board gets reset by a Damnation or Sweltering Suns. You should look at masterwork into thud as a 4 drop too, as it really needs your creatures on the board to function.
I'd look at doing the traditional goblin thing and dropping your curve, focussing in on Foundry Street Denizen, Mogg War Marshal, Goblin Instigator into Goblin Chieftain. This will give you a lot more early game damage, and help immensely with consistancy.
1 month ago
If you're going to run 5 blood moon effects, you probably need a less non-basic heavy mana base. Otherwise your shock lands are just going to turn into mountains that enter tapped unless you pay 2 mana. Goblin Fireslinger doesn't win the game as it's set up right now, because it doesn't have haste so it can't tap the turn it's played. Goblin Warchief and Goblin Chieftain both fix this problem. Chieftan makes your deck be able to win easier outside of the combo, while warchief lets you go infinite with war marshal or instigator and win that turn with infinite tokens and infinite mana. I may have other suggestions later, but overall I'd try to streamline the deck or flesh it out into an aggro/midrange goblin deck with a combo finish. Like the concept.
1 month ago
I think Goblin Guide is a little bit out of my price range unfortunately. I do own a copy of Goblin Chieftain, and might pick up a second to add in. Goblin King looks really good too, haven't seen that card before. I'm going to try and fit them in now, thanks for the feedback!
2 months ago
I recommend that you find a place for Goblin King and for Goblin Chieftain as these lord are quite synergistic with the go wide strategy. also, i would recommend adding 4x Goblin Guide as it is by far one of the best aggro creatures in the game (although it is a bit pricey these days)