Creature — Goblin Pirate
When Wily Goblin enters the battlefield, create a colorless Treasure artifact token with ", Sacrifice this artifact: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool."
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Wily Goblin Discussion
1 month ago
It seems your deck is missing some card draw so it doesn't run out of steam too fast. Now mono-red is a tough nut to crack regarding card draw - atleast I don't have much experience with it. But I would definetly cut Wily Goblin. You should look into cards like Magus of the Wheel and Skullclamp - with all your small creatures, a card like Mind's Eye might fit in.
Depending on your playgroup, you should look into some boardwipes/Removal like Mizzium Mortars.
I also see you have a lot of small pingers that deal small damage - maybe look into some equipment that gives deathtouch.
1 month ago
Wow. Thanks for taking the time to write that all out!
The rocks you mentioned are all good, I'll add around 3/4 of them as I do think card-draw is a bigger concern for the deck. Retriever/Diver are fun, I'll add one if not both. Goblin Engineer only hits small artifacts, so that doesn't exactly work, but the Welder is a welcome addition. I don't think Purphorous is quite on strategy enough to merit a spot, but Daretti is cool. Mystic Forge is a wonderful card, not sure how it slipped under my radar. I don't love planar bridge as much, as high CMC artifacts are only good if they like dying ;D. The Forgemaster's cost to activate is a little too high for the pace of the deck, I tend to play/sac/play/sac/play, not play/play/play/sac/sac/sac. I don't feel like I want to spend 9 mana on an effect really only helps me "choose my timing", but the Boots/Greaves suggestion is a good one as the Head Honcho himself doesn't want to die. Ugin, the Ineffable/Foundry Inspector are likely both going in the deck, appreciate those suggestions. As for Clock/Myr... Not necessary enough. Of the "big ham" artifacts you mentioned, Duplicant/Ancient Stone Idol are the only ones I like. Big artifacts for the sake of big artifacts isn't what I'm looking for, more along the lines of big artifacts that are practically screaming to die. Lattice is a very powerful card, I'll try to fit it in. The ability doublers are smart, I'll squeeze one of 'em in.
As for the cards you're suggesting to remove... Elemental/Servant are good to take out. I like Forge Armor as my general is already a 6-power trampler, if I can just casually put 8 counters on him then my opponent has work around me, even if I don't really want to be swinging in. Nahiri's Wrath, and Azor's Gateway Flip are all good to take out, we can agree on that. I like the familiar as it comes down early and disincentivize attackers, and then draw me card and Bolt someone later in the game. The comparison of Dockside Extortionist to Wily Goblin is a fair one, but I know I'm getting a treasure from Wily Goblin, and that's important since I'm counting on that early ramp + body. I find Rise to be just solid value, and you didn't suggest a whole lot of card advantage to I don't see fit to remove it just yet. You burn through a lot of cards in this deck, and it's good to keep a steady flow. Scarecrone can get artifacts, from the graveyard, to the battlefield repeatedly. And I like the digger. But he probably needs to go.
1 month ago
So you might think if adding even more mana rocks like Mind Stone, Thran Dynamo, Hedron Archive, Worn Powerstone, Blinkmoth Urn, Everflowing Chalice, Gilded Lotus, Palladium Myr, or Iron Myr. You should be ramping as much as possible, you could even consider Extraplanar Lens if budget is no concern. You could consider cards like Myr Retriever, Goblin Welder, Buried Ruin, Goblin Engineer, Junk Diver, purphorous, bronze-blooded or Daretti, Scrap Savant to bring artifacts back from the graveyard. You could consider Mystic Forge, Planar Bridge, or Kuldotha Forgemaster for getting artifacts out of your deck and onto the battlefield. Darksteel Forge, Soul of New Phyrexia, or Eldrazi Monument so you're killing your artifacts only when you want to. Unwinding Clock it's good if you combine it with flash from Shimmer Myr or Vedalken Orrery. Ugin, the Ineffable or Foundry Inspector to reduce the casting cost of your artifacts without affecting the cmc. You could go full ham on some big artifact creatures like Myr Battlesphere, Meteor Golem, Duplicant, Ancient Stone Idol, Mycosynth Golem, Darksteel Colossus, Blightsteel Colossus, Platinum Angel, or Platinum Emperion just to name a few. Other ideas might be Hellkite Tyrant to steal your opponents artifacts Mycosynth Lattice to turn your non-artifacts into artifacts, Illusionist's Bracers or Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient to copy bosh's abilities, Swiftfoot Boots and/or Lightning Greaves to protect your big guy, Voltaic Key or Manifold Key to untap your rocks, or Mind's Eye or incidental card draw. Some lands to think about are Myriad Landscape, Darksteel Citadel, and Phyrexia's Core but not much else.
As per suggestions to take out : Catalyst Elemental, Destructive Digger, Forge Armor, Walking Atlas, Nahiri's Wrath, Wily Goblin (use Dockside Extortionist), Azor's Gateway Flip, Furious Rise, Generator Servant, Pirate's Pillage, Scarecrone, Filigree Familiar just to name a few.
I would like to start by saying I'm not trying to say your deck is bad, just trying to give you a lot of ideas to go off of and pointing out things that don't really go with the theme of the deck, which is ramp super hard, drop a bunch of big threats, drop bosh and kill opponents. Secondly, I am not a competitive deck builder by any means, I just use the data I have and suggest the things I like. I actually like seeing gosh in the command zone.
3 months ago
Is the creature we are Looping creating mana via treasures or Eldrazi Scions? Dire Fleet Hoarder,Wily Goblin,Carrier Thrall then everytime we loop we are building a stockpile of mana for our future turns.
But we can get more than just value from the creature we are sac'ing oh much much more, how about value from the sac outlet it self? Viscera Seer Start scrying through your deck for your combo pieces ThermopodAshnod's Altar Help you generate more mana for more cards to be cast from hand for multiple card loops Carrion Feeder Keep adding +1/+1's to make a threat that needs to be dealt with before it spirals out of control Spawning Pit why not add more tokens to this to create a potential army of 2/2's that can snap into existence at instant speed? Greater Gargadon How about ticking down a clock to a 9/7 coming to smash your enemies into small digestible pieces?
You think we are done with what value we can get from Looping? not even close, what about other effects that occur when they see cards getting sac'd for greater good of value? Zulaport Cutthroat,Falkenrath Noble,Syr Konrad, the Grim This will start putting pressure on opponent's life totals whenever you sac a creature, or cast in the case of Bontu's and special mention to Syr Konrad as he also does damage when they go back to hand from your yard...oooh that value.
You want card draw? we got it,now its not as clean as blue draw and it does have a distinct smell of decomposing flesh but hey we will take it. Smothering AbominationGrim HaruspexMidnight Reaper even Hazoret's Monument as you do cast in a loop and remember all discard cards will be put back to hand via Garna's ETB.
What all this mana positive and mana neutral creature casts lets us do is frankly more of the same, play multiple creatures a turn to make multiple treasures or make multiple tokens or scry multiple times it all depends on the set up you have at the board at the time but the more creatures to sac the more effects, the more the merrier the bigger the better.
We now have an infinite loop going and this deck can use this in multiple ways to end the game. Refer to the infinite loops section to see all the options
Do we instead haveDesecrated Tomb or any creature that creates tokens as part of our loop? make sure to end the loop with several millions tokens created and stop the loop with Garna in play, all your tokens now have haste.... Good game? This can also be done is a few other more janky ways using Spawning Pit and either Ashnod's AltarPitiless PlundererSifter of SkullsBlood PetCarrier Thrall and clever use sage of sac'ing for counters and then sac'ing for mana ( or just allays sac'ing for counters if Plunderer or Sifter are in play).
4 months ago
Okay WOW I am behind on comments! I will try to make this quick, so I apologize if I sound rude or blunt!
ScionsStillLive tajic's protection is too niche.
martin3141 thanks! Wily Goblin seems neat, but I think Winota on turn 3 isn't a priority. I'd rather spend 2 mana to get two tokens, and then something else on turn 3, then finally play Winota. Spectral Procession = mana base problems. Creatures that leave behind tokens when dying would be a fantastic route to take Winota, if there were enough of them! Grim Initiate does seem particularly good as a one-drop. Don't like land destruction so no Raiders. My experience with Leave / Chance has been lukewarm at best. Thanks for the comment!
raspberryfish25 thank you! I had considered all the cards you mentioned but felt like I had better options. As for Fumigate over better board wipes... well I had one and didn't want to spend more money than I already was haha! Thanks for the comment!
jconeil1988 I have! I guess my problem with him is that at 4cmc he interrupts when I want to cast Winota. And only gives one token. I'd rather spend two mana for two tokens.
Sorry I had to rush through everyone! Thank you all SO much for the comments and suggestions, it does mean a lot to me!
4 months ago
Nice deck! Strongly suggest Kaya's Ghostform. Not only is it great in general for sac decks, it works masterfully with Dockside Extortionist and has good synergy with Prosperous Pirates, Sailor of Means, and Wily Goblin. Not bad for a one-drop enchantment ;)
4 months ago
Cool deck! You might like these: Gold Myr (nonhuman that gets Winota out a turn sooner), Iron Myr, Hedron Crawler, Manakin, Plague Myr, Wily Goblin, Breath of Fury (potential to outright win you the game), Adriana, Captain of the Guard, Aurelia, the Warleader, Leonin Warleader, Hero of Bladehold, Relentless Assault, World at War, Waves of Aggression, Tempt with Vengeance, Elemental Mastery
5 months ago
Nice decklist! I've been playing with the idea of building a commander deck around Winota myself. Here are some ideas:
If your mana base supports it, Wily Goblin could be a strong 2-Drop that enables playing Winota on turn 3 and immediately attack.
The new card Fight as One seems like an excellent protection spell for Winota decks.
Spectral Procession is another 3-drop non-human token producer you might wanna consider. I think it's very strong in the early game, provided your mana base supports tripple white.
In order to combat mass-destruction cards like Wrath of God I'm thinking of playing cards that can create non-human attackers at instant speed. That way you can flash in some attackers e.o.t., untap, play Winota and immediately attack. You already run Secure the Wastes, which is perhaps the best one. Further cards I'm thinking of include Decree of Justice, White Sun's Zenith, or even Aven Mindcensor.
On the same note, creatures that leave behind tokens when dying such as Grim Initiate or Martyr of Dusk could provide you with early-game attackers that are difficult to get rid of. Without Winota these cards are pretty weak though.
Avalanche Riders is human and gives you some land destruction against those pesky utility lands.
I think that Leave / Chance is an underrated protection spell against mass-destruction. Certainly not as strong as Boros Charm or Teferi's Protection, and doesn't rescue your tokens, but maybe worth testing.