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Old Stickfingers
Legendary Creature — Horror
When you cast this spell, reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal X creature cards. Put all creature cards revealed this way into your graveyard, then put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
This creature's power and toughness are each equal to the number of creature cards in your graveyard.
DreadKhan on
Meren, Clan of Nel Toth
7 months ago
One of my favourite things to do in Meren is to ramp (my deck is on the clunkier side, and it runs very few lands), and one of the better ways to repeatedly ramp is to use more stuff like Sakura Tribe Elder, variations include Diligent Farmhand, Dawntreader Elk, Yavimaya Granger, and maybe Burnished Hart/Fertilid. All of these can find a Swamp for you, each sacrifices itself and thus they have some nice synergy with Meren. I think the only Meren decks that don't want multiples of that effect is if they are building a very high powered list, where this kind of play 'isn't advancing your board' sufficiently. I often find that farming XP isn't a waste of time early, so these recursive ramp sources offer that as well. I think it's very hard to justify running land ramp Sorceries when you can run creatures that do the same thing, and arguably do a better job of it. I would also shave stuff like Arcane Signet or the Talisman for creature ramp, Meren can't recur your rocks for you when they get blown up. In addition to Meren there are tons of things that synergize with creatures, stuff like Beast Whisperer and Liliana's Standard Bearer can draw lots of cards via creatures, and you don't get that synergy with a 2 mana rock. Using Meren to recur Liliana's Standard Bearer is a pretty impressive bulk draw option.
Some generically good cards for a Meren list that I love are Buried Alive, Final Parting, and Jarad's Orders, each of these offers real tutoring power, and none are especially pricey. Buried Alive can find a whole combo for you to win with. Old Stickfingers is probably worth a look for the similar reasons, Meren feels really weak if you have no creatures in your yard to reanimate. I'm not sure if it's too high budget, but Fiend Artisan has a lot of synergy with Meren. You don't have to dig out a combo piece for the card to do useful things.
In my Meren deck it's a much better Rhystic Study (I run a very high creature count), but I suspect you'd get some value out of Lurking Predators. There is also Heartwood Storyteller, in my experience both belong in a deck with even more creatures but they could still be useful I think.
In my limited experience Callous Bloodmage offers pretty good graveyard hate on a very low budget, and if you don't need that it can do other stuff, it's a great card to use in infinite loop since it can do a few useful things.
Mitotic Slime offers you a ton of bodies for only 5 mana, it's not especially hard to go infinite with as a result. I like using it with Demon of Dark Schemes and Pitiless Plunderer (and a sac outlet) to win, the nicest part about using a combo like this is that each piece is independently good. Phyrexian Altar is better than Plunderer, but it's even more money (though the difference has dropped sharply).
Dawnstrider is an extra Spore Frog, one that doesn't require reanimation but offers a discard outlet, letting you put creatures in your graveyard. Silverglade Pathfinder is another discard outlet, but offers ramp instead.
I hope this isn't too try-hard for your deck, Meren is a very fun Commander to build.
PhoenixClipz on
The pioneer GOYF - A selfmill deck
1 year ago
Thank you for letting me know i plan on checking out some cards and replacing with some good ideas for it. I've had ideas for Old Stickfingers in the deck and maybe sideboarding Ashiok, Dream Render I'm definitely upgrading the land base to some more expensive lands and that should make the deck synergize a lot more I hope. Thank you so much for letting me know what best changes need to be made. I greatly appreciate your help. I cant wait to see your new decks for sure.
BishopAtavist on
Sheoldred, Rising Dead v2
1 year ago
I'm going to keep an eye on this deck for ideas for my own decks! Haha I Love the graveyard decks. I have an Abzan one where Buried Alive is a pretty key card. Is there a reason you have it as just a "maybe"?
Mill decks scare me (to play with) because I don't like not controlling what goes into my graveyard, especially if I don't have ways to recur instants and sorceries discarded that way. (Which is why I like that Golgari gives me access to cards like Old Stickfingers.
LastEdegy on
Jarad vod Savo
1 year ago
@vehiclemaster - Cemetery Tampering looks slow, after casting this, it doesn't affect anything yet.. might playtest it first.. Shakedown Heavy has a lot of hoops to go through just draw a card.. and Topiary Stomper is a one time ramp only, and doesn't affect the board if i draw it very early.. The dispensable creatures i have for ramp feels better.. thanks for the suggestions though..
@RoxieRoxie - Ambitious Dragonborn is lacking compared to other big creatures i have already included in the deck.. like Carrion Grub, Old Stickfingers and Wall of Blood are much better.. Ancient Brass Dragon looks like a fun card though.. might be a card that overturn the situation of the game.. might consider it, but not soon.. since it's still costs high as of the moment.. thanks for the suggestions!
@Tiyos99 - thanks for the suggestions.. although Circle of the Land Druid is an okay disposable land recursion and self milling cheap creature, other options already included in the deck is much better w/o waiting for it to die.. Gray Slaad is not good.. aside from the adventure side of it, the payoff of having 4 or more creatures in the graveyard is underwhelming..
Dazard on
Kathril, Aspect of Nightmares
1 year ago
Cool deck! I am currently working on a kathril deck as well and this gave me some good inspiration. You can check it out if you want ;)
As you already mentioned i would defininetly consider adding Old Stickfingers. Unlike most of the other selfmill spells this one only adds creatures, so you are not burning any other stuff that you want in your hand and not in your graveyard. And the thing gets bigger and bigger as long as the game goes on.
Also Oriq Loremage is really nice who basically works as a permanent tutor for your graveyard which is always nice to have
DreadKhan on
Meren NON combo Grind
2 years ago
Have you thought about running more 1 drops that ramp? Llanowar Elves, Elvish Mystic, Fyndhorn Elves, Elves of Deep Shadow and even Birds of Paradise are all very good cards in most Meren decks. I also like Blood Pet and Dawntreader Elk. I even use Fertilid atm, probably could replace it with something better though. I feel like a Meren deck should be gaining as much XP as possible early game, if you can recycle a Sakura Tribe Elder (or similar card) a few times, you might have the most mana out as well as have respectable XP, so I feel like running lots of creatures that find lands and die on their own is a good choice. I run 30 lands in my Meren deck, and I made a point of testing how little fixing mattered in a deck like Meren, sure enough it's not remotely picky. It's 2 colours, and if you've got a heap of ways to use Green mana to get access to Black, you really only need as many Swamps as you expect to fetch out in a game. I think this is especially true if you decide to trim a few lands for 1 drop ramp creatures, you can't keep hands without Green, but can keep a hand without a Swamp just fine if you can find one via a ramp creature (or generate Black via one). Higher land count is better if you really expect to see lots of wipes (you should run Rise of the Dread Marn if that's true), but if players only run a few per deck you might not see one early enough to matter. More competitive decks tend to run fewer wipes (and more combos), but more counters/removal, since they don't usually want to lose their own board. If you're playing against fairly competitive (but not cEDH) opponents, I'd go with the dorks, if you play vs Casual decks, you might want the lands! Sorry if that's confusing, but hopefully it helps.
Ohran Frostfang is really good in grindier Meren decks. Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest is good if your deck consistently is sacrificing stuff (and even better if other people sacrifice stuff in your games). Fiend Artisan is a sac outlet that can tutor up creatures, and it can be big enough to swing with sometimes. Helm of Possession is a really sneaky old card that you don't see much, but it combines a sac outlet with a theft effect. It's a removal magnet, but it's a really strong and off-colour effect in Golgari. Coffin Queen is another weird old card that can reanimate stuff from any Graveyard, but it exiles it when it dies. This is normally bad for a combo deck, but in your build it might be fine. Old Stickfingers might be worth a look, very good at putting lots of creatures into your yard without dumping other cards you might want. Dawnstrider is a nice card if you play vs lots of attackers, this is a fog that won't use up your Meren reanimation, and it also lets you discard creatures to reanimate, so it has a pretty high ceiling in more casual Meren.
Cool deck, looks like lots of fun!
jacobpmesser on
testing ideas
2 years ago
Hit Turn 8 a few times. Still got work.
Wondering if I should aim for Grist ult. I want Ashes to happen for huge self mill but not complete. Maybe Boneyard Wurm over Splinterfright or Old Stickfingers for a few two drop 'goyfs.
Will (+) Emry. I'm going to try Shriekhorn for another target for Chancellor G.
kazeoishii on
High Lord Wolnir, Arisen Skeleton
2 years ago
Removed Army of the Damned
2x Forest
Added Living Death
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