Baba Lysaga, Night Witch
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Baba Lysaga, Night Witch

Legendary Creature — Human Warlock

, Sacrifice up to three permanents: If there were three or more card types among the sacrificed permanents, each opponent loses 3 life, you gain 3 life and you draw three cards.

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Gidgetimer on baba lysaga, night witch and …

1 year ago

Your wording is weird. Are you sacrificing the Bequeathal to activate Baba Lysaga, Night Witch as well? Because you said you are sacrificing the creature and then responding by sacrificing the Bequeathal.

If you are sacrificing both to pay the cost of activating Baba Lysaga, Night Witch, then using the information as the creature last existed, it was enchanted by Bequeathal and Bequeathal will trigger.

If you are trying to activate Baba Lysaga, Night Witch and then sacrifice Bequeathal to something else, you can't do that. The aura will go to the graveyard as a SBA before you get priority to sacrifice it to something else. You will still get a Bequeathal trigger since it was attached to the creature as it last existed.

Swebb87 on baba lysaga, night witch and …

1 year ago

If I enchant a creature with Bequeathal and I sack the creature to Baba Lysaga, Night Witch activated ability; can I respond to that by sacrificing the Bequeathal and still get the card draw trigger from the enchanted creature dying? Or does the way it will go on the stack mean the enchantment dying resolves first on the sack and I don't get the card draw?

DreadKhan on EDH Merens Reanimator

1 year ago

In my Meren deck, I don't run a lot of bigger creatures, even though the deck has decent odds of ending up with huge amounts of mana, stuff like Beast Whisperer/Grim Haruspex draw cards off of creatures either entering or leaving the battlefield, there are lots of variants of both of those effects, and these will let you play many spells in a turn, rather than play one huge thing. I don't think your MVs are a huge problem, but the 'top of my curve' creatures are Razaketh, the Foulblooded, Protean Hulk, and Sheoldred, Whispering One, the first two can win on the spot or very quickly, while Sheoldred is a bit more questionable, a lot of people find stuff like Sheoldred tends to be too slow in todays game, so even that is a card I'm considering switching out for lower to the ground stuff. I checked and atm I have 14 1 drops, which is a few more, there are plenty of decent 1 drop mana dorks you could throw in to both lower your curve and possibly raise your consistency, though the best is Elves of Deep Shadow, since your deck cares more about Black mana.

As a general rule of thumb for Meren, if you can do a thing with a creature instead, you probably should unless the creature option is truly awful, I run 55 creatures in the 99, and I'm still thinking about sneaking more in by taking out things like Artifacts. Creature payoffs are better than artifact payoffs in Golgari, and Meren can't recur non-creatures.

For sac outlets, you ideally want a selection of 'free' sac outlets, ones that only use a creature and no other input, so stuff like Viscera Seer, Carrion Feeder, Woe Strider, any of the good altars (Phyrexian Altar, Ashnod's Altar, and Altar of Dementia are my all very good), Sadistic Hypnotist is insanely useful (it is a 5 drop though), if you have 4 drops that matter you can use Dimir House Guard because Transmute is a good mechanic if you care about the MV and it's also a free sac outlet. I think you can throw in a few sac outlets that are more limited, stuff like Helm of Possession, Phyrexian Tower, Hell's Caretaker, Altar of Bhaal, and Ritual of the Machine are all beefy effects, even if you can only use them once per turn. I really like stuff like Sakura Tribe Elder because the card provides it's own sac outlet (but only for itself), ymmv but I think you're taking a risk by running something like Solemn Simulacrum over Dawntreader Elk or Diligent Farmhand, 4 mana is a ton and it lacks a self destruct feature.

One option some people end up taking is replacing Meren as the Commander, not because she isn't strong enough but because the play patterns are pretty consistent, once you've figured out what your deck is trying to do, Meren is usually very predictable, so some people prefer something like Baba Lysaga, Night Witch. She offers card draw and a sac outlet in the Command zone while caring a lot less about creatures in particular, so you'd have more freedom in terms of card types.

Hope some of this is helpful!

legendofa on Baba Lysaga sacrificing Gloomshrieker

1 year ago

Baba Lysaga, Night Witch cares about the card types as they are sacrificed, not where they end up. Gloomshrieker will count as an enchantment and a creature for that ability.

DreadKhan on Erinis, Landfall Spawn

1 year ago

Any reason you're not running The Gitrog Monster in here, it seems staggeringly synergistic unless I'm missing something? Another one to consider is Baba Lysaga, Night Witch, it's a tap ability, and you've usually got spare creature tokens and lands, add in some treasures or clues and you are going to draw a ton of cards. There is also Braids, Arisen Nightmare, hitting each opponent for a land can hurt some decks, especially if Braids can do it a few times, when you eventually get 3 cards for a land, it'll feel pretty good I think, but netting 2 opponent's worst land and getting a card back is also worth a land.

Maybe Thunderfoot Baloth or Blossoming Bogbeast? Maybe not enough 'bang for buck', but Siege Behemoth can let your Commander get in as if it's not blocked, do you often end up over 20 power?

Stuff like Sakura-Tribe Scout or Skyshroud Ranger can be useful in a landfall deck, especially if you've got some card draw going on. There are also a few more, Scaled Herbalist and Llanowar Scout that are pretty budget. Since you might not mind pitching a land to dig one out, Silverglade Pathfinder can ramp you if you pitch a card, slow but grindy value. Oracle of Mul Daya is pretty cheap at the moment, a decent card if you run enough lands, Augur of Autumn and your Commander will only need 1 other power to let you play creatures off the top of your deck, that seems solid.

It's pretty high end, but I feel like you'd struggle to add more passive value generation to this deck than with Field of the Dead, that card is just so much synergy. Another to consider might be Ashaya, Soul of the Wild, then all your creatures are also landfall (other than tokens).

Great deck, I hope some of these ideas work!

smilodex on Best Commanders in EDH [Tier List] Part 1

2 years ago

@Sephyrias: Raffine is good in many ways. She is evasive, has built-in protection, is fairly cheap to cast and in good colors. She generates value in the form of looting and buffs creatures, which can be good for so many valid competitive strategies like Doomsday, pseudo-Farm, Hatebears, reanimator, etc.

In our opinion there are differences between Evelyn, Anhelo and Zevlor. Sure, they could all win with a certain magecraft combo, but not only the combos matter, also synergy and a lot of other important points like overall gameplay value are part of the evaluation.

Zevlor for example can be part of Dramatic Scepter Combo, and he also breaks some cards like Intuition, Jeska's Will, Praetor's Grasp, Gitaxian Probe/Peek, Thoughtseize etc.

Anhelo is a 3 mana (mostly) do nothing, until you can sacrifice a creature to copy a spell. At least he has good colors and is a 1/3 with deathtouch, but Kess is in most usecases straight up better in competitive games.

Most of the time, we can compare commanders to already existing ones. Evelyn can be compared to Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge, but Jeleva is one mana cheaper, and you have the ability to cast some good spells for free. One of the upsides of Evelyn is the fact that you can straight up win the game with the Worldgorger Dragon combo, BUT this upside is also a bit of a downside, since this combo is way too easy to interrupt and if you mess up, you straight up lose the game.

The list looks a bit different now, since we had to split the Tierlist. We didn't move Alela in a long time. Even if you have to jump through some hoops, Liara Portyr can generate quite some value with Wotc currently printing a ton of good red and white cards, with synergetic effects like myriad and other exile mechanics.

The Eloise, Nephalia Sleuth + March of the Machines combo is very slow and expensive and these cards aren't that great outside the specific combo, whereas Siona is very cheap to cast and also helps to search for the combo piece or a stax piece, while you can slow down the game with stax. Another big upside for Siona is, that she can win through most common hate pieces like Rule of Law.

@knusperklotz: You're kinda right, Baba Lysaga, Night Witch is a shaky candidate. I think she has the potential to be a high power commander. She can grind a lot of value in longer games, but he needs quite some set up to get going. We decided to first put her into mid tier, because she's in Lightning Bolt range and has no impact when she enters the battlefield. But she's definitely one of the better mid commanders. It's also very likely that we put her into high power when wotc release more synergetic cards for this commander.

Rhadamanthus on if I sacrifice genju of …

2 years ago

You can use double square brackets around a card's name to create a reference link: Genju of the Fens, Baba Lysaga, Night Witch. It's the best way to help make sure everyone understands what's going on in the question.

Yes, this works. Abilities that trigger when something leaves the battlefield ("dies"/"goes to the graveyard" is the most common type) use information from the last moment something was on the battlefield to determine if and how they trigger. This means objects that leave the battlefield at the same time can "see" each other for the purposes of their triggered abilities that care about it. In your example, Genju of the Fens' ability will trigger from the enchanted land going to the graveyard at the same time.

Gidgetimer on Flip cards and Baba Lysaga, …

2 years ago

Baba Lysaga, Night Witch looks at the card types among sacrificed permanents. Sot it will use last known information about how the permanents existed on the battlefield and see Lili as a PW.

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