Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire
Legendary Creature — Demon Rogue
Boast — : Target player searches their library for a card, then shuffles their library and puts that card on top of it. *(Activate this ability only if this creature attacked this turn and only once each turn.
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Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire Discussion
1 week ago
Hi MLS91, thank you for your suggestions!
Maralen of the Mornsong does combo well with Opposition Agent. However, by herself she is dangerous because she kills my card advantage with Tinybones (“Players can’t draw cards”) and will grant each opponent a card of their choice before my next turn. So I would never want to play her unless I have Opp Agent in hand already. Plus if both Mary and Opp Agent are in play, Opp Agent can be removed easily, and then I’m stuck with Mary and her drawbacks.
Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire is ok but is essentially a 5-mana delayed tutor, assuming it survives until the turn after I play it. It is strictly worse than most tutors unless I have Opp Agent in play. So for now, Mary and Vary are staying on the Maybeboard :)
2 weeks ago
Hey, you're welcome.
The first cuts to consider are Temple of the Dragon Queen and 3 other lands since 40 lands is too much. In place of some lands add some lower CMC scry/draw such as Brainstorm, Augury Owl, Preordain, Telling Time. The idea is these cards can replace lands because they're one or two mana, easy to cast, that can help to find lands if you need a land, find/draw other cards or most important help to setup the top card of your library for Yuriko. The scry 3 of Augury Owl is nice since it's a flying creature to return to your hand to cast again.
The more lower CMC creatures who have evasion or can give itself or another creature evasion you add the better the creature base will be for Yuriko. There's a large amount of budget creatures to choose from therefore there's really no reason to play many nonNinja creatures who don't have evasion.
Some other cards to consider cutting:
- Pharika's Cure
- Wall of Frost
- Bone to Ash
- Vampire Spawn
- Calcite Snapper
- Shipbreaker Kraken
- Inkwell Leviathan
- Shambling Ghast
- Hoard Robber
- Death-Priest of Myrkul
- Zombie Ogre
- Scion of the Swarm
- Thassa's Intervention
A more complex budget interaction is Cunning Evasion or Grazilaxx, Illithid Scholar with Yuriko and other Ninjutsu. You keep bouncing Ninjas who are blocked and then Ninjutsu them while still in combat. This is helpful with Yuriko and other Ninjas because they will not always have evasion. Any Ninja who has a trigger when it does combat damage to a player such as Ingenious Infiltrator benefits from being able to be blocked then bounced and then Ninjutsu while still in combat, before combat damage step.
Some other cards to consider adding later on that are a little more expensive price, but still budget:
- Arcane Adaptation: this makes all creatures you control a Ninja as well as a Rogue. This is a powerful effect because then each creature who does combat damage to an opponent triggers Yuriko.
- Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire: it's a Rogue who's boast ability can tutor for any card and put that card on top of your library. You can activate boast at any time after Varragoth is declared as an attacker thus you can set up the top card of your library in combat before Varragoth dies if that is what is going to happen and before you do combat damage to a player.
- Fallen Shinobi: Ninja with a potentially busted trigger when you do combat damage to an opponent, but the power of it depends on what cards you exile from the top of your opponent's library.
1 month ago
I like Reclaim and Phantasmal Image. This is because you mill yourself a lot and there's usually a creature worth copying. Disciple of Deceit could be useful if you expect to face decks that you'll be able to attack into. Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire is probably better, though. I don't know if Necropotence fits your deck or not, since it doesn't appear to be a combo deck or a deck that can gain life. I see Tasigur as a control deck that stabilizes in the late game and uses politics to pit players against each other.
I would also suggest Notion Thief (it even looks like you're just holding up Tasigur's mill mana).
1 month ago
Rune-Scarred Demon is a lovely tutor as a stand alone beat creature/tutor.
Vilis, Broker of Blood is also a wonderful card that grants draw, beat stock, and board control.
I’ve played both and have removed both from my list as I find their cmc to high and actual board presence a hinderance. Keep in mind before y’all jump at that statement that it’s play style and expectation. I play my build against CEDH decks and my expectation is that when I make my move I can achieve it in one turn as a glass cannon. I’ve done this as fast as turn 2 and can possibly do it on turn one but would require to much of the perfect hand/top deck scenario to contemplate it.
RSD gets dropped, I’m hard casting it and the board is on alert to watch my next turn.
VBB gets dropped, I’ve either hard casted and don’t have the mana to use, or my board is prepped to cheat him and my opponents are on alert.
Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire is my card choice as I find him a stable threat for the table to overlook and a lightning rod for removal threats to ensure safety.
Essentially the entire argument breaks down to “Tempo”. At what speed do you expect you deck to achieve things and at what tolerance do you accept volatility. I don’t care about my life total with this deck, my Glass Cannon. I win games at less than 10 life the vast majority of the times. I often hurt myself more than my opponents, but I sacrifice a lot for my speed and bypassing other zones/avenues of approach for the win.
My take on these card choices:
Remembrance? To slow. Needs cost reductions on the Shadowborn and a sac outlet that’s better than their own ability.
Secret Salvage? Creates play issues as the set up becomes overly complicated. Looks great on paper but rarely works out if you’re playing to speed.
Lurrus of the Dream-Den? only allows one play.
Mortal Combat? requires upkeep trigger and you can’t get that many creatures in you grave on the opponents turn or play MC at instant speed at EOT. You give to much time for multiple players to react to you and possibly in prepared ways.
We can at least agree that Razaketh, the Foulblooded is staple.
The rest just seems to be tempo choices and nothing more to me.
1 month ago
Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire and Lurrus of the Dream-Den both seem great additions. Ashnod's Altar is great for aristrocrat decks. Oh, and Smothering Abomination, Species Specialist and Grim Haruspex are powerful card draw options.
2 months ago
Ok, this is basically devastating opposing decks, gnawing down their crop ...like a Lokust? (Guess I'll show myself out?)
Puns aside, how about Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire ? Opponents could use it to interrupt you. On the other hand, you're the one who can wait with an activation until you control Opposition Agent or Ob Nixilis, Unshackled .
4 months ago
I love demon deck ideas. The only drawback is alot of demons have REALLY shitty negative stuff they do as well.
Griselbrand get this boi in there. he fucks. hard. I'd also def keep the Master of Cruelties and maybe even throw in some Lightning Greaves to protect your heavy hitters. Sire Of Insanity also a fuckin sick demon who works well with top decking if you have Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire out. Demigod of Revenge is also a sick ass card thats easy to play with your basic mana set up. Also maybe consider 1-2 Ob Nixilis Reignited for some late game card draw and variation to keep opponents on their toes.
Biggest advice would be to dial back on some of the demons/devils just for the sake of having them. Some of em are trash. For example you could ditch the Tibalt's Rager for maybe some Spike Jester or Dreadhorde Butcher
4 months ago