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Whenever an opponent discards a creature card, create a 2/2 black Zombie creature token.
Whenever an opponent discards a land card, add to your mana pool.
Whenever an opponent discards a noncreature, nonland card, draw a card.
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Waste Not Discussion
4 days ago
I don't think that Deathbringer Thoctar is worth it. He is simply to slow and isn't on the same page with what the rest of the deck is trying to do.
I also don't think that Whispersilk Cloak or Swiftfoot Boots are worth it. The likely hood that you are going to draw them is slim and for little reward. If you remove all of what I have mentioned you have room to add either (or any combination of) Shrieking Affliction or Black Vise . Since you are making them discard, hopefully they will eventually not have a hand and these will be a huge win condition in a single and multiplayer game.
I'm not sure that Mind Slash is worth it either, as the only card you have that you can freely sacrifice is Reassembling Skeleton . Instead I would recommend adding 2 Waste Not as he will help you strengthen your board or hand. I realize this is in your maybe board, but I think your main board could very much so benefit form having at least 2 Waste Not . It might even be worth it to remove ravens crime if you replace it with Shrieking Affliction or Black Vise .
I also so that you have removed Slaughter Games and I don't think that was good.I think that this deck would very heavily benefit from 3 Slaughter Games in your sideboard. If you lose the first game, sideboard them in and take out something important.
It might also be worth it to try to squeeze in some Raven's Crime .
4 days ago
im just going to throw out a bunch of card ideas to you Archfiend of Ifnir , Barbed Shocker , Shocker , Dragon Mage , Wheel of Fate , Megrim , Molten Psyche , Collective Defiance , Dark Deal , Waste Not , Standstill , Past in Flames , Kess, Dissident Mage , Sangromancer , Seizan, Perverter of Truth , Guiltfeeder , consuming abberation, Runehorn Hellkite , Prosperity . this is how i have mine if you would like to check it out really fun deck i feel like kess and past in flames are huge tools for using spells in your graveyard it has won me the game.
1 week ago
This is a classic Gravecrawler + Phyrexian Altar deck. The ultimate goal is to have one of the following: Zulaport Cutthroat , Wayward Servant , Plague Belcher , Diregraf Captain , Corpse Knight ; alongside the Gravecrawler constantly going back and forth.
There are some cards that allow this combo without Phyrexian Altar . Mikaeus, the Unhallowed can combo with Putrid Goblin . Both can also double sacrifice effects if they are alone for value without combo- ing off. Rooftop Storm can replace Phyrexian Altar or unlock Relentless Dead to replace Gravecrawler .
With a commander like Varina, Lich Queen , with a strong Draw/discard effect, we need cards to discard. Cards that can make incredible value for Windfall + Whispering Madness + Memory Jar while refilling our hand and filling the graveyard. From Under the Floorboards , Waste Not (for opponents), Reanimate , Stitch Together .
3 weeks ago
Looking to build a cheap $20-30 deck that I can sit down, and play with my friend who is still a super casual kitchen-table style player. I don’t get a lot of time to play magic like he does so I was just gonna play a couple games with him, show him the combo, and then give him the deck. I was thinking an old pauper Storm style list (obviously he doesn’t care about ban list, and loves mill) so I was thinking Brain Freeze as a win-con.
He also likes discard, and I think a Waste Not deck would see super fun for him.
4 weeks ago
Yarok is better because Muldrotha has a huge weakness. Graveyard hate. One Rest in Peace or any other similar effect and you're done. But the same could be said about Yarok. One Torpor Orb and you're done. Only difference is torpor orb stops creatures. Yarok cares about all the triggered effects not just creatures, and not the entering.
Theres so many strategies you can go. Reanimation decks. Mill decks. Draw and discard decks. Control decks. Token decks. Walkers. Or just value.
I'm gonna list a few cards that trigger in many effects except etb effects. To hammer home the point that torpor will not shut down a yarok deck.
- Grave Titan
- Dictate of Erebos
- Underworld Dreams
- Rhystic Study
- Wurmcoil Engine
- Bloodgift Demon
- Progenitor Mimic
- Fleet Swallower
- Mesmeric Orb
- Hedron Crab
- Waste Not
- Liliana's Caress
- gray merchant of ashphodel
- Fraying Sanity
- Wound Reflection
- scyth spector
- Bloodchief Ascension
- Painful Quandary
- Exquisite Blood
- Sanguine Bond
- Blood Artist
- zulaport cutthroat
- Frost Titan
- Roil Elemental
- Sword of Feast and Famine
- Sword of Truth and Justice
- sword of steel and sinew
- Sword of Light and Shadow
- Sword of Fire and Ice
- Sword of War and Peace
- Black Market
- Revel in Riches
- Mechanized Production
- Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
- pathrazor ulamog
- Emrakul, the Promised End
- Consuming Aberration
I can go on and on. Yarok all the way better
4 weeks ago
Erebos, God of the Dead is a fun general -- good luck!
Most EDH games are decided by card advantage. You're typically facing down three opponents, meaning you're facing down about three times as many cards as you yourself can produce. Thus, anything that can recoup card advantage through mass draw or multi-for-ones is a good addition to a deck. With Erebos, I had a lot of luck with Words of Waste . This is an instant-speed discard effect (through Erebos' draw ability) and mana sink for the end of your opponents turns.
In a similar vein, cards like Smallpox are good for cleaning up the board from early threats, as well as setting back your opponents. I don't see it played that much, but I've had good success playing it myself. Pox is another option, but it is harder to minimize its damage to you as well.
Depending on your card pool, you may want to consider running Snow-Covered Swamp s instead of Swamp s. This allows you to run something like Dead of Winter instead of Languish ; it's more mana-efficient and tends to have a bigger effect.
Black doesn't have a lot of options in terms of mana-ramp. I see you've included Crypt Ghast and Cabal Stronghold (both powerful), but you should also consider artifact ramp. Sol Ring is an auto-include in almost every EDH deck, and cards like Charcoal Diamond , Coldsteel Heart , Mind Stone , Thought Vessel , Mana Vault , Mana Crypt (if you proxy or want to sell a kidney) and Everflowing Chalice are great as well.
One combo I had good luck with while playing Erebos was Raven's Crime with Null Profusion . This allows you to essentially cycle any dead lands you draw by casting Raven's Crime from the yard, while also making an opponent discard. In the discard vein, you seem to have some good discard pieces in your list already. Including Geth's Grimoire makes these into card advantage for you, and Waste Not is a great value engine. Syphon Mind is both a mass-discard spell and a mass-draw spell.
In your land-package, I think you should cut Leechridden Swamp . A majority of the time, losing one life isn't going to be significant; furthermore, entering tapped is a severe drawback. Running a normal or snow-covered Swamp is better.
A few of your creature inclusions are questionable. Gifted Aetherborn , Pawn of Ulamog and Basilica Screecher are not likely to have much of an effect on the board, and Brain Maggot or Kitesail Freebooter likely should be replaced with more global and/or recurring discard effects.
I feel that a lot of your spot removal consists of one-for-ones. Consume Spirit and Corrupt are good when there is only a single threat on the board, but are simply not good enough if two or more opponents are applying pressure at a given moment. Damnation and Toxic Deluge are the best black board-wipes, though they can be very expensive; I advise Nevinyrral's Disk or Perilous Vault as budget considerations. The life-gain effects of Consume Spirit and the like are probably not necessary when you're running Whip of Erebos and Pontiff of Blight .
Tutors are amazing in EDH. Demonic Tutor is the gold-standard, though it is expensive. Diabolic Tutor , which you run, is functionally identical to Mastermind's Acquisition in EDH -- you may want to consider running the latter for redundancy.
Because of the draw-power stapled on Erebos, you may want to consider running cards like Mindslicer . You'll recover much faster than your opponents, and with things like Waste Not or Geth's Grimoire on the field its a real powerhouse. This would require a sac-outlet; Phyrexian Tower is a good option here.
1 month ago
1 month ago
Waste Not occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.03%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%
UBR (Grixis): 0.66%