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Whenever an opponent discards a creature card, create a 2/2 black Zombie creature token.
Whenever an opponent discards a land card, add to your mana pool.
Whenever an opponent discards a noncreature, nonland card, draw a card.
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Waste Not Discussion
15 hours ago
WhichKing Thank you for the feedback. I've had this discussion with a couple of people before, and I think by removing the majority of the specters and dragons, I turn into a grixis good stuff deck, which should just helm Nekusar at that point since I want to be drawing and wheeling all the time. I understand the 4 cmc might be awkward for a lot of players, but that was the goal of the ramp, and from play testing I have been able to get 5 drops out on turn 3 since I usually have some sort of rock in my hand, but often 2 mana accelerators. Plus, turning away from Crosis, the Purger to a grixis good stuff deck also doesn't go along with the theme. I will agree it is being pulled, but I will argue that those two directions work together. They discard, while I get value out of it, plus this allows me a safer bet on plopping down these big 6 drop dragons.
xander11 Thank you for the feedback! I already had Waste Not in my board, since that is a really really good card when it sticks around on the board. I really like Library of Leng as well since this could allow me to play around with what I want and when I want it. Will definitely be adding that in somewhere once I can find a spot.
1 day ago
I don't do competitive EDH, but discard-combo seems to work around the tables I play at; my personal favorite is Nath of the Gilt-Leaf with Sadistic Hypnotist or Mind Slash. Skull Rend is the multiplayer Blightning, and Waste Not should be a key piece. Just make sure your friend has a way to close out the game, unless he wants to be Enemy No. 1 in the next game.
1 day ago
As others have mentioned, one-off discard spells like Blightning aren't particularly powerful in multiplayer games. Discarding becomes powerful when you're able to either repetitively force your opponents discard or do it in mass. It becomes even more powerful when you translate the card advantage into damage or other value.
Nekusar, the Mindrazer is built around cycling through players hands with wheel effects (Wheel of Fortune, Wheel of Fate, Windfall, etc.) and gaining value / damage from Waste Not and Liliana's Caress-like abilities. While this isn't a top-tier strategy, it can certainly hold its own in most groups.
4 days ago
With all your discard and wheels have you thought about adding Waste Not It should be able to give you a good amount of card advantage if nothing else. Another great card would be Library of Leng this will let you have no max hand size and you will never have to discard unless you want to
1 week ago
I don't normally comment but I see someone else also loves the idea of edh mill :)
IMO in commander spells that are targeted like Fraying Sanity or Curse of the Bloody Tome are worse than global effects like Memory Erosion. It doesn't matter if it's 1v1 commander, but anything in a group setting makes them worse. Stuff like Hedron Crab and Curse of the Bloody Tome can too slow for 100 card decks. You're not guaranteed to play them early and by the time you mill 10 or 20 cards they'll have their commander and some other nonsense to just end the game. Some people play Kozilek, Butcher of Truth so milling them out is impossible without Leyline of the Void
Some cards which might help are Ashen Powder Whispering Madness Soul Manipulation Dissipation Field Quest for Ancient Secrets Avatar of Woe Body Double Consuming Aberration Guiltfeeder Nighthowler Sepulchral Primordial Wrexial, the Risen Deep Entreat the Dead Wight of Precinct Six
2 weeks ago
I'd like to suggest replacing Phyrexian Arena with cards like Skeletal Scrying or Sign in Blood, that'll give you the option to choose when you're low on health. With the Arena you have no way of ridding yourself of it. Creature's like Tombstalker and Gurmag Angler are pretty good since you'll be filling your GY pretty fast.
2 weeks ago
Yeah one of the players in my local meta runs a Grixis Nichol Bolas EDH deck that centers around discarding and wheel effects combined with Waste Not to say it's obnoxious is drastically understating the point.
2 weeks ago
Hmmm what about running a couple of Waste Not then not only are they frustrated when they discard their cards but they are pushing you even further ahead by doing so?