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Whenever an opponent discards a creature card, create a 2/2 black Zombie creature token.
Whenever an opponent discards a land card, add to your mana pool.
Whenever an opponent discards a noncreature, nonland card, draw a card.
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Waste Not Discussion
3 days ago
it's a bit ironic to assemble the Avengers (aka The Gatewatch) to help to construct a Bolas-deck, but nevertheless here are my ideas:
First of all, I would discard :) the whole Nekusar-wheel-theme. Nekusar, the Mindrazer decks just do it better anyways and playing Wheel of Fortune, Reforge the Soul, Jace's Archivist or Windfall in your deck has some drawbacks. While they're great to enable your plan of using the opponents' graveyards, your decks' cmc is not low enough to exploit those cards. Additionally, your opponents would get a significant amount of cards out of it, too, which also undermines the whole handcontrol theme of your deck: What's the matter of making them discard through Nicol Bolas, the Ravager Flip, when you're helping them to refill their hands the next turn? Cards like Megrim, Liliana's Caress or Fell Specter would have to go as well because they're only effective with the aforementioned cards.
So my proposal is to focus on discard and control. Cards like Painful Quandary, The Eldest Reborn, Waste Not, Oppression and Chains of Mephistopheles fit well and should stay. You could add Skull Rend or Liliana's Specter. You could also add cards that let your commander re-enter the battlefield like Ghostly Flicker. Some ninjas like Silent-Blade Oni or Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni do not only fit your theme but let you cast your commander again.
You have to strengthen your control over the graveyards when you're making people discard. The Scarab God is already good here. But you need some more graveyard-hate like Relic of Progenitus or Phyrexian Furnace which give you a bit of a choice what to exile. Don't play Leyline of the Void in here.
So far I mentioned 8 cards which should be cut, so here are 22 more: Kess, Dissident Mage, Nightveil Specter, Mind's Dilation, Omniscience, Torment of Hailfire, Disrupt Decorum, Entreat the Dead, Anvil of Bogardan, Go for the Throat, Blasphemous Act, Stunning Reversal, Thrilling Encore, Leyline of Anticipation (most of the permanents don't have to be played at instant speed. Casting leyline is just doing nothing for the turn), Bloodchief Ascension, Countersquall, Desertion, Preordain, Thoughtseize, Library of Leng, Disciple of Bolas, Hour of Devastation, Tormenting Voice.
That's all for now. Good luck with your deck!
1 week ago
Khorvath's Fury, Windfall, Geth's Grimoire, Waste Not, Painful Quandary, Torment of Hailfire, Jace's Archivist, Perplex, Decree of Pain, Blasphemous Act, Reforge the Soul, Pain Magnification, Lavaborn Muse, Hollow Specter, Hellfire Mongrel, Pull from Tomorrow, Wheel of Fate, Rise of the Dark Realms, Words of Waste, Oppression.
1 week ago
2 weeks ago
I'm not a fan of mindcrank without Bloodchief Ascension. It almost never pays off, and so many decks want cards in their graveyard you can get punished pretty hard. Jamming Rakdos Charm maindeck can offset some of that, but giving your opponent card advantage is a real risk. Burning inquiry carries similar problems, and without you running lots of cards that want to be in your graveyard, will likely help your opponent more than you.
I'm guessing this started as a delayed damage Emberwilde Augur Insult Rift Bolt list, possibly including Flame of Keld, which then morphed into a Waste Not variant. Its a fun idea- I've never made it work without it becoming a different deck.
First things first, if you want a damage/discard hybrid deck, you need to decide- how important is the discard? Is the this the rack, or is it a burn deck with blightnings?
If your meta has aggro decks that typically only have 1 card in hand turn four, a lot of discard is wasted. If its all control, then you'll want to be jamming as much as you possibly can just to keep from being locked out of the game. The big thing is that with fifteen cards sideboard, you can pack in 11 copies of duress variants and 4 shrieking afflictions. The sideboard is there to adapt you to your meta- whether that be by jamming silver bullet answers or completely changing your strategy in response. Just by swapping Lightning Bolt alikes for Duress you completely change the pace and playstyle of your deck.
I have a big list of mono black cards I use for brews here Mono black deckbuilder's toolbox, in particular Sign in Blood and Night's Whisper- both net you more cards in a way that red struggles with, and in a pinch can finish off someone on five life with lighting bolt.
Elixir of immortality is cute. Personally, I prefer Sun Droplet or the new Fountain of Renewal, and sometimes Golden Urn. Shuffling the graveyard back in is usually a disadvantage outside of 'draw your deck' combos.
Finally, remember to build something that is fun to play. Its all well and good knowing the 'best' option, but if it ain't fun, it ain't worth it. So always keep that in mind when choosing cards.
(edit- also just maindeck angrath. He locks a player out of the game like lilana and doesn't break the bank)