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Indulgent Tormentor Discussion
4 days ago
Also, I vote for ninjas, since you have creatures with pwoerful ETB effects and/or evasion, throwing one or two ninja in there could be randomly good. I'd swap out Indulgent Tormentor for Okiba-Gang Shinobi or Throat Slitter.
3 weeks ago
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3 weeks ago
Oh, and if Indulgent Tormentor peaks your interest, consider Bloodgift Demon. It's a Phyrexian Arena on a stick, dodges Lightning Bolt, and doesn't give your opponent options like Tormentor. I know it's more $ than Tormentor, but is quite a bit stronger and not really that expensive.
3 weeks ago
Thanks for the suggestions Poseidon31,
I don't feel like playing any of these suggested cards(mostly because of the cost of them).
But after looking at your deck, I might add Indulgent Tormentor to the list.
1 month ago
Liturgy of Blood, Index, Extinction, Dimir Cluestone, Jace Beleren, Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip, Returned Reveler, Returned Centaur, Indulgent Tormentor, and Elusive Tormentor Flip could all be cut for better cards. I'm glad to see your CMC for the deck is low, but most of these cards have better versions. You already have the good Jace in here, Liturgy can be removed for Go for the Throat, Indulgent can be taken out for either Bloodgift Demon or Archfiend of Depravity. I don't see how Lili, heretical healer and Elusuve Tormentor help your deck, and Extinction seems too narrow.
1 month ago
From Pascal :
Generator Servant, Read the Bones, Resolute Archangel, Aegis Angel, Hedron Archive, Reaper from the Abyss, Indulgent Tormentor, Athreos, God of Passage, Boros Charm, Hellkite Tyrant, Battlefield Forge, Firemane Avenger, Avacyn, Guardian Angel, Hoarding Dragon, Revoke Existence, Sign in Blood, Scourge of the Nobilis
1 month ago
I really like seeing decks on here that people have thought "Y'know i just wanna try that" instead of their take on tournament placing decks. So mad props to you mate!
This deck follows a similar vein to one that I used to run so heres a couple of my suggestions:
I like how you are adding demons for creature or card advantage, double down on that! I would drop both Reaper from the Abyss for either two more Indulgent Tormentor or a pair of Bloodgift Demon. Why Bloodgift? Because its another card with a draw effect but can also be used to deal a critical 1 damage to the opponent. Plus if someone uses Sever the Bloodline on your Tormentor then Bloodgift wont die as well :)
Elves and other token decks make big showings in most casual or non-competition modern gamedays. Sideboarding a Demon of Dark Schemes or 2 could make all the difference against those decks if you can play him before 2 or 3 lords pump on the little guys.
Vraska the Unseen always looks like a fun planeswalker to run, but unless you can keep her alive AND hit with the token she is just a good defense as your opponent spends a turn killing her. Playing big stompy creatures means you arent likely to have too many little blockers to save her life so I would have to say drop her and add Garruk Wildspeaker. This Garruk can untap lands, notably the ones enchanted with Weirding Wood or a Golgari Rot Farm. He also gives you a chance to trample some big damage at your opponent.
If you do decide to keep Vraska the Unseen in this deck then i would suggest adding a Rogue's Passage as an inabler for her tokens. Adding it mainboard means that you can also let a few cheeky demons through.
Griselbrand is a powerful demon. Not neccessary or particularly powerful in this deck, but if your opponent knows your playing it then they will at least be trying to take it out. So its up to you about its use as a bluff/powerhouse. I personally wouldnt play him though.
However Lord of the Void is a BEAST if he goes well. I would add one to sideboard to play if your opponent is also playing a slow deck.
Both Ob Nixilis, the Fallen and Ob Nixilis, Unshackled deserve play in your deck, fallen most of all. The more lands you get the more he hurts! And Unshackled is a good sideboard card against particularly tutor-y decks.
As far as the rest of the support goes you have put heaps of thought into the balance! Its real nice! I would switch Explosive Vegetation for Harrow personally, as I have an attachment to the card and also because it means you can follow it with a Farseek or Sakura-Tribe Elder. It ends up being slightly faster than Explosive vegetation in this sense, but maybe you dont like the waste, and thats reasonable. Also seeing as you arent playing any dual lands (by the way if you get a chance, play some dual lands) Farseek is worse than Rampant Growth. So definitly switch them :)
I LOVE Fungal Sprouting. It just so fun to be playing a stompy creature deck and suddenly have a spawn fest. But because this deck is a little slower, Fog might be more valuable as it can save your life earlier.
What do i mean by that? Well Both Doom Blade and Putrefy are good at what they do for sure! But In Garruk's Wake is just too slow for modern, as by turn 3 or 4 you will need to clear your opponents board. However it does kill creatures. so i would break In Garruk's Wake into two parts, the board wipe Damnation (or equivalent) and the planeswalker slaying Hero's Downfall. You could use Ruinous Path for its awaken bonus but i think its too slow at sorcery speed. With that, Doom Blade has its downside as you noted about not hitting black creatures; Ta-Da! Hero's Downfall hits them :)
SO my suggestion are
- -2 Reaper from the Abyss
- +2 Bloodgift Demon
- -1 Vraska the Unseen
- -1 Garruk, Apex Predator (He's just too slow sorry)
- +2 Garruk Wildspeaker
- -3 Farseek
- +3 Rampant Growth
- -2 Fungal Sprouting
- +2 Fog
- -1 In Garruk's Wake
- +1 Damnation
- -3 Doomblade
- +3 Hero's Downfall
I realise this a lot of text, but I didnt just want to throw card names at you, i wanted to let you know why I would suggest things. This ends up being nothing like what i play but all my suggestions are based on what i saw you thinking about, and my practices as a Black dominant player. Hope i helped or gave you ideas :)