Creature — Demon
At the beginning of your upkeep, draw a card unless target opponent sacrifices a creature or pays 3 life.
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Indulgent Tormentor Discussion
2 weeks ago
I used your deck to playtest against for the last hour or so and I have a few suggestions (I'll put some playtest notes at the bottom if you're interested). Overall, I think your cards could be more impactful, and I think you need more artifact ramp. You should also add a bit of graveyard hate. I notice that the deck cost is fairly low, so I'll keep my suggestions relatively budget friendly.
Ramp: Dimir Signet, Azorius Signet, Druidic Satchel, Darksteel Ingot, Sol Ring, Mind Stone, Hedron Archive, Wayfarer's Bauble, Dreamscape Artist. I would consider adding all of these cards, they will make your deck MUCH faster.
Final dump that I'm too lazy to organize: Phyrexian Reclamation, Drogskol Reaver, Tainted Sigil, Phyrexian Arena, Sphinx of the Steel Wind, Wall of Reverence, Defiant Bloodlord, Cliffhaven Vampire, Crypt Ghast, Ashen Rider, Beacon of Immortality, Dig Through Time, Fumigate, Chalice of Life Flip, Sun Droplet
Archangel of Tithes - Too much white, and your mana base isn't great.
Augury Adept - Too easy to block. Far too often this card does nothing.
Bloodbond Vampire - It gets big. Eventually. This is too slow.
Exalted Angel - This is 6 mana for a 4/4 flying lifelink. That is just bad.
Indulgent Tormentor - In EDH, paying the life is too easy.
Mourning Thrull - Uh...yeah. Doesn't really do anything. Change to ramp.
Resolute Archangel - High Cost, and if you're losing, this is not going to make you win except in VERY particular circumstances.
Seraph of Dawn - This is bad.
Tithe Drinker - There are better extort cards, and it's otherwise underwhelming.
Underworld Coinsmith - Slow and low impact.
Ruinous Path - Sorcery Speed.
Entreat the Angels - If this wins you the game, it's be a miracle (hehe). For real though, there are WAY better end game cards. check out
Moonsilver Spear - This is OK. It's slow, it makes tokens. I want every card in a deck to make me smile when I draw it, and this card just makes me go, "Ah, I see."
Steel of the Godhead - This is just kinda OK. Only creature to put it on is Oloro.
Sunbond - Slow and opens you up to being 2 for 1ed.
Sunspring Expedition - If you are going to play a card that only gains you life, it needs to gain you a lot of life. 8 is not a lot of life.
Pulse of the Fields - If an opponent has more life, you're doing something wrong.
Riot Control - Unless this card is great in your meta, it just doesn't belong is most decks. You should be controlling the field enough that this card doesn't do anything.
Samite Ministration - See above.
To the Slaughter - Yes, it can kill a planeswalker. But other than that, most people have a little shit creature they don't care about that they can sacrifice, and this costs 3 mana.
Anyway, I hope deckbuilding goes well! It looks like your building a fun deck. Cheers!
Playtest notes: I playtested against Reaper King stars in MTG: The Clone Wars. Obviously, mine is a MUCH more expensive and tuned deck, so it should win. I chose your deck despite the obvious mismatch because I'm getting some buddies into EDH and I wanted to make a deck that was powerful but didn't overwhelm them. Your deck seemed to roughly match the budget of what they'll be building. Overall, Reaper King lost one game and won three. The loss involved you getting an Elspeth and enough removal to protect her. The wins were mostly because of a lack of graveyard hate, not enough removal, threats that weren't very threatening, and mana issues. I think the mana issues deal was largely a luck thing, as you play enough lands, but some ramp would really smooth that out.
1 month ago
I forgot Gravestorm existed! I have a copy sitting in my binder I'll definitely throw it in here to see how it works. Any ideas for cuts? As for Indulgent Tormentor, I'm not a huge fan of giving my opponents that choice. If it just said that they had to sacrifice a creature or I get to draw a card then I would probably use it but as it is I don't know if it's worth it. Although that reminds me isn't there another demon that does something similar except it's a little closer to Phyrexian Arena?
1 month ago
Seeing as you want additional draw power and you like fucking with your friend's permanents, Gravestorm could be an excellent addition to your deck. It wouldn't replace your draw step, so it's either draw an additional card per turn, or slowly purge your opponents' graveyard. Indulgent Tormentor would be a good addition as well if it isn't already in there.
2 months ago
I highly recommend finding a spot for
- Chasm Skulker
- Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
- Ob Nixilis Reignited
- Cerebral Vortex
- Consult the Necrosages (straight upgrade to Mind Rot)
- Geier Reach Sanitarium
- and Soul Ransom
Other fun cards to consider are:Archmage Ascension, Consecrated Sphinx, Dire Undercurrents, Font of Mythos, Geth's Grimoire, Helm of the Ghastlord, Howling Mine, Indulgent Tormentor, Infiltration Lens, Jace's Erasure, Jace, Memory Adept, Mercurial Chemister, Barbed Shocker, Booby Trap, Collective Defiance, Fascination, Fate Unraveler, Jace Beleren, Sign in Blood, and Toil//Trouble, and Spellbook are all fun cards to consider.
2 months ago
@DarkMagician: Necropotence will more then likely return after I playtested without it. Having gone back on what happened that game my mistake was playing it for draw when I was in a pinch and had to rely on Crypt Ghast for health and literally did not leave 8 to 10 health for nearly 9 rounds of stalling (Thank you Linvala, Keeper of Silence and Blinding Angel for that). It almost cost me the game merely because I couldn't get any card draw without sacrificing health that put me in a very dangerous position the one time I didn't have reliable lifegain already present on the board. I realize now its more user error but still going to play test some before swapping back.
I decided to run Rune-Scarred Demon and Indulgent Tormentor/ Desecration Demon to try and have some viable demons thrown in there. I agree on the angels, as much as I love the mythic side having two of them leave little to be desired. I'm thinking Baneslayer Angel and Sorin Markov. Tree of Perdition as well.
2 months ago
Took about 10 minutes to put this together. When creating a deck with a tribe theme you want to try to stick to one tribe. IE Devils or demons.
I chose devils to give you an idea of having your deck work together.
Indulgent Tormentor (Demon but fit in)
Ob Nixilis, the Fallen (Demon but fit in)
Now even though all these cards do the same thing in a sense it doesnt mean itll make a great deck However if you team these cards with some decent burn cards Like Lightning Bolt , Lava Spike , Rift Bolt use your creatures to attack aggressively and die and so on and forget the X cost burn the payout isnt that great unless its a finisher like you need to deal 6 more and have the mana but if its countered youre all tapped out so keep that in mind.
So on a build using these guys all the lower cost creatures you would have 4 each and go up the cost and cut back to say 2 typically building i use the following rule
4 copies = I want this card in my opening hand or asap Every Game
3 Copies = I Want this card every game just not in my opening hand
2 Copies = I don't want this card in my opening hand but would like to see it every game
1 Copy = You could use this in a game but due with out it. (Typically I dont use one copy of a card unless i can tutor for it or it can save the game on some off chance situation)
2 months ago
You might be right. I will add Gisela, the Broken Blade and Archangel of Thune. But I don't know what shall I remove instead... Aurelia, the Warleader and Angelic Skirmisher ? Angelic Skirmisher gives me good sustain, but his ability will trigger next combat. He might not survive opponent's turn. And I must hard cast Aurelia, the Warleader, for her to be effective... Other way she probably won't survive until my next turn. And she is only 3/4. Yet I really like those cards and I think they are useful despite no ETB trigger. What do You think ?
I used to play Harvester of Souls, but still, he is very high CMC and if I can't cheat him in with Kaalia of the Vast I don't think he is reliable draw card. Indulgent Tormentor is great. He is relatively cheap and in Duel Commander might be a real threat. Either way - I draw a card for free or opponent loses 3 life out of 20.
2 months ago
I like Gisela, the Broken Blade she is as good as Baneslayer Angel. Bruna, the Fading Light is just too awful for me to include, Brisela, Voice of Nightmares is pretty awesome and what I want, but not worth the uselessness of drawing a Bruna, the Fading Light. If only Bruna, the Fading Light was an ETB trigger! She would be superstar!
Maybe Archfiend of Depravity, not sure what the aggro looks like? If it's creatures he could be good. If it's tokens a Sever the Bloodline might work. Blind Obedience or Imposing Sovereign might slow them down?
Harvester of Souls gives you no pain drawing, and free cast with Kaalia of the Vast. I feel Farsight Mask CMC 5, and Sorin, Grim Nemesis CMC 6 will be too slow to help vs. an aggro deck, by the time they resolve and activate the game might be over. Indulgent Tormentor is great, does he net you many draws?
Archangel of Thune can block, lifelink to mitigate the aggro damage, and then get bigger and out of control as well. There's just isn't useful drawing in these colors that doesn't cause pain, and maybe even give those advantages, but not Mardu.