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At the beginning of your upkeep, draw a card unless target opponent sacrifices a creature or pays 3 life.
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Indulgent Tormentor Discussion
4 weeks ago
angelusmortis Thanks for the suggestions! Razaketh, the Foulblooded is good, although I'm not sure what creatures I would want to sac to him. But if it wins me the game it might be worth it. Balefire Dragon is great, but out of the price range at the moment. Karmic Guide is also good, I've been thinking of adding one. Right now Reya Dawnbringer is kind of filling that spot, as she has a similar affect.
TheRedKnight Thanks! I don't think I'll spend the money on Necropotence or Phyrexian Arena right now, but I do agree I need more card draw. Indulgent Tormentor, Bloodgift Demon, and Harvester of Souls are the main card draws I have. I'll have to add in some of those suggestions! Ob Nixilis Reignited looks pretty good as well.
4 weeks ago
I like your list and I get the budget thing! But how do you refill your hand? Except for the Indulgent Tormentor you have no card draw... at all! And that is optional... 3 life in EDH is a laughably low price to keep you from drawing! Keeping things budget you don't need a Necropotence but black offers so much in draw! Phyrexian Arena seems a no-brainer and the Arena on a stick Bloodgift Demon would be a nice inclusion. Read the Bones, Night's Whisper and Painful Truths as well as Sign in Blood would all go a long way to keep your hand full of fatties to drop with our vengeful Lady :) Ob Nixilis Reignited is sweet utility too since he draws and nukes stuff and is relatively cheap money wise ;)
1 month ago
Looking nice so far!! Here are some suggestions from my experience, fellow Kaalia player :)
As far as creatures go, pretty much just play the ones you like!
Some less-budget suggestions: Master of Cruelties, pretty much instant kill if they have no blockers. Rune-Scarred Demon, Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, Aurelia, the Warleader, Lord of the Void, Akroma, Angel of Wrath, Gisela, the Broken Blade. Those are some of my favorites. A little heavier on the budget but super fun!
Mid-budget options: Ob Nixilis, Unshackled, Platinum Angel, Anya, Merciless Angel, Mana-Charged Dragon, Rakdos, Lord of Riots, Angel of Despair, Mother of Runes, Deathless Angel, Hellkite Tyrant, Tariel, Reckoner of Souls, Blinding Angel, Overseer of the Damned, Akroma, Angel of Fury.
More budget-friendly options: Angel of Serenity, Angelic Arbiter, Indulgent Tormentor, Reya Dawnbringer, Harvester of Souls, Bloodgift Demon, Exquisite Archangel, Herald of the Host (For multiplayer), Angelic Skirmisher, Bruna, the Fading Light (to pair with Gisela), Seraph of the Sword, Guardian of the Gateless.
There are obviously numerous options as far as creatures go. Those are a couple of mine. But don't go off just what other people say- if you don't like the feel of killing someone outright with Master of Cruelties, don't get him! If you want to play a little more defensive you can run Seraph of the Sword and Guardian of the Gateless or something! Just play what you want to! :)
Not really sure about the curses. I personally probably wouldn't run them, but they seem fun!
Dragon Tempest is a good include. Give all your fliers haste!
You definitely want ramp, and I see you have some. The appropriate signets, Commander's Sphere, Darksteel Ingot, probably the cluestones (They can draw you cards, which is usually more useful than getting a small creature until end of turn, as with the keyrunes).
If you're going to spend a little more, the check lands like Clifftop Retreat and Dragonskull Summit are great. Scry lands such as Temple of Malice and be very useful. Obviously fetchlands and shocklands are good, but not friendly to the budget at all. I don't think they're worth it sometimes. But everything is up to you! :)
Hopefully these suggestions help! I've said it a lot, but play whatever you think will be the most fun for you! Good luck in the building process- I'll be following along to see how it goes! :)
1 month ago
If I had more time I would write something a little more substantial, but I will just say to you to check out edhrec.
From here you can from the top of the page take a look at the average Kaalia decklist, then also look at popular choices in the deck. Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Rune-Scarred Demon, and Iona, Shield of Emeria are some of the most common choices. Some of these angels, demons and dragons are slightly expensive, so Im sure you can put in some cheaper alternatives (like Archfiend of Depravity, Pestilence Demon,Indulgent Tormentor etc), as magic has no shortage of these creature types since there literally is at least 1 printed every new set!
Let me know if you have other questions though still, and I can try my best to help when Im less busy.
1 month ago
So, i definitely made this deck and the problem I run into is I have no draw power. After my initial apostle combo, I falter. Getting six apostles down, plus other small things like blood artist, really drains your hand by turn 5, and then I have nothing to do, especially if that first combo is countered or if the demon is removed. I'm throwing in some Crypt Ghast, some Infernal Scarring, some Indulgent Tormentor and a Seizan, Perverter of Truth. However, i don't know if that will rectify the problem, and all card draw in black has life drain attached to it, and with not a lot of life gain in this deck, except for grizzy, I'm hesitant to use those. Especially because my initial combo is sac my apostles, get a Rune-Scarred Demon, search for an immortal servitude, use that next turn, and then have two demons on the field. In most games, that's a winner, but that combo doesn't go down that way every time. What do yall think? I have not yet won a game with this deck.
1 month ago
I would suggest that you add in more pillowfort enchantments, because, well, you're bound to get pummeled in the face sooner or later. Ghostly Prison, Windborn Muse, Koskun Falls, Propaganda, Sphere of Safety, Collective Restraint, Dissipation Field, No Mercy, Aurification, and Peacekeeper all work. One nice combo you can run is Energy Field + Rest in Peace (You can no longer take damage as long as those enchantments remain on the field).
If you're aiming for a more oppressive control deck, you also can throw in Fatespinner, Frozen AEther, Blind Obedience, Torpor Orb, Hushwing Gryff, Iona, Shield of Emeria (especially funny when you're playing against a monocolor deck), Linvala, Keeper of Silence, Meishin, the Mind Cage, Indulgent Tormentor, Painful Quandary, Angelic Arbiter... I could go on and on and on.
I'm not sure about the status of your playgroup, but I also would suggest sweepers like Cataclysm, Tragic Arrogance, Mutilate, Cyclonic Rift, basically any sweeper that says "Sacrifice", "Bounce" or "-X/-X" to account for cards like Avacyn, Angel of Hope.
2 months ago
2 months ago
in most decks, it would be a larger concern, but because you are largely focused on your opponents not having cards, you still should have a "relative" card advantage (especially with Waste Not and Geth's Grimoire giving you advantage off of an opponents disadvantage)
that being said, cards like Erebos, God of the Dead, Indulgent Tormentor, Phyrexian Arena, Herald’s Horn or Wretched Confluence that may be worth considering (maybe in place of the gratuitous amount of damage double-ers)