Creature — Demon
At the beginning of your upkeep, draw a card unless target opponent sacrifices a creature or pays 3 life.
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Indulgent Tormentor Discussion
2 days ago
I highly recommend finding a spot for
- Chasm Skulker
- Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
- Ob Nixilis Reignited
- Cerebral Vortex
- Consult the Necrosages (straight upgrade to Mind Rot)
- Geier Reach Sanitarium
- and Soul Ransom
Other fun cards to consider are:Archmage Ascension, Consecrated Sphinx, Dire Undercurrents, Font of Mythos, Geth's Grimoire, Helm of the Ghastlord, Howling Mine, Indulgent Tormentor, Infiltration Lens, Jace's Erasure, Jace, Memory Adept, Mercurial Chemister, Barbed Shocker, Booby Trap, Collective Defiance, Fascination, Fate Unraveler, Jace Beleren, Sign in Blood, and Toil//Trouble, and Spellbook are all fun cards to consider.
3 days ago
@DarkMagician: Necropotence will more then likely return after I playtested without it. Having gone back on what happened that game my mistake was playing it for draw when I was in a pinch and had to rely on Crypt Ghast for health and literally did not leave 8 to 10 health for nearly 9 rounds of stalling (Thank you Linvala, Keeper of Silence and Blinding Angel for that). It almost cost me the game merely because I couldn't get any card draw without sacrificing health that put me in a very dangerous position the one time I didn't have reliable lifegain already present on the board. I realize now its more user error but still going to play test some before swapping back.
I decided to run Rune-Scarred Demon and Indulgent Tormentor/ Desecration Demon to try and have some viable demons thrown in there. I agree on the angels, as much as I love the mythic side having two of them leave little to be desired. I'm thinking Baneslayer Angel and Sorin Markov. Tree of Perdition as well.
2 weeks ago
Took about 10 minutes to put this together. When creating a deck with a tribe theme you want to try to stick to one tribe. IE Devils or demons.
I chose devils to give you an idea of having your deck work together.
Indulgent Tormentor (Demon but fit in)
Ob Nixilis, the Fallen (Demon but fit in)
Now even though all these cards do the same thing in a sense it doesnt mean itll make a great deck However if you team these cards with some decent burn cards Like Lightning Bolt , Lava Spike , Rift Bolt use your creatures to attack aggressively and die and so on and forget the X cost burn the payout isnt that great unless its a finisher like you need to deal 6 more and have the mana but if its countered youre all tapped out so keep that in mind.
So on a build using these guys all the lower cost creatures you would have 4 each and go up the cost and cut back to say 2 typically building i use the following rule
4 copies = I want this card in my opening hand or asap Every Game
3 Copies = I Want this card every game just not in my opening hand
2 Copies = I don't want this card in my opening hand but would like to see it every game
1 Copy = You could use this in a game but due with out it. (Typically I dont use one copy of a card unless i can tutor for it or it can save the game on some off chance situation)
2 weeks ago
You might be right. I will add Gisela, the Broken Blade and Archangel of Thune. But I don't know what shall I remove instead... Aurelia, the Warleader and Angelic Skirmisher ? Angelic Skirmisher gives me good sustain, but his ability will trigger next combat. He might not survive opponent's turn. And I must hard cast Aurelia, the Warleader, for her to be effective... Other way she probably won't survive until my next turn. And she is only 3/4. Yet I really like those cards and I think they are useful despite no ETB trigger. What do You think ?
I used to play Harvester of Souls, but still, he is very high CMC and if I can't cheat him in with Kaalia of the Vast I don't think he is reliable draw card. Indulgent Tormentor is great. He is relatively cheap and in Duel Commander might be a real threat. Either way - I draw a card for free or opponent loses 3 life out of 20.
2 weeks ago
I like Gisela, the Broken Blade she is as good as Baneslayer Angel. Bruna, the Fading Light is just too awful for me to include, Brisela, Voice of Nightmares is pretty awesome and what I want, but not worth the uselessness of drawing a Bruna, the Fading Light. If only Bruna, the Fading Light was an ETB trigger! She would be superstar!
Maybe Archfiend of Depravity, not sure what the aggro looks like? If it's creatures he could be good. If it's tokens a Sever the Bloodline might work. Blind Obedience or Imposing Sovereign might slow them down?
Harvester of Souls gives you no pain drawing, and free cast with Kaalia of the Vast. I feel Farsight Mask CMC 5, and Sorin, Grim Nemesis CMC 6 will be too slow to help vs. an aggro deck, by the time they resolve and activate the game might be over. Indulgent Tormentor is great, does he net you many draws?
Archangel of Thune can block, lifelink to mitigate the aggro damage, and then get bigger and out of control as well. There's just isn't useful drawing in these colors that doesn't cause pain, and maybe even give those advantages, but not Mardu.
1 month ago
I think you broke me. (That sounded kind raunchy, sorry bout that).
You are the coolest dude I know for that!
Let's see where should I start... I'm running Altar's Reap over the other card draw because it's a sac outlet as well as draw.
The reason I'm running Fetid Imp is because he can have deathtouch which is nice, but really may not matter with all my kill spells, but him and Carrier Thrall are my only creatures below 3 mana. But I could probably replace the imp with something infinitely better. My thrall though, that's my homeboy, sacs for dayzzzzz.
Thanks for the awesome suggestions, Infernal Spawn of Infernal Spawn of Evil is an auto include. 4x for sure.
I feel my comment doesn't live up to your sick drop down!
1 month ago
i'd run Yahenni, Undying Partisan except you don't have a lot of removal. i'd offer Indulgent Tormentor except this is a format with bolt so he dies to everything. you should run some utility lands over just 4 swamps unless you are determined to make this strictly budget. (you don't have enough creatures for westvale abby to be an option. If you want a cheap creature that really isn't as good as it use to be you could play Nightmare if you want to stick to 24 swamps. Its a beater but its really a 6/6 flying for 6 on turn 6 so any demon could fill that role. Erebos's Titan would be good if frontier had shrine to nyx but it doesn't. you also don't run enough removal to guarantee hes indestructable when you want, though he could be a good sideboard against dredge as hes bigger than anything they play except ormandal and he would constantly recur.
Kothophed, Soul Hoarder could be a good finisher/card draw he is unfortunately a double edged sword. you have some lifegain to partially negate his downside, but hes really just a better nightmare. That said from origins Dark Petition could really help you as by turn 5 you will have spell mastery in this deck. meaning its a demonic tutor for you. 1-2 Ob Nixilis Reignited offers control and a win con if you can protect him.
If you aren't on a budget Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet even as 1-2 of is a very powerful win con. So is Liliana, the Last Hope. If you want a sweeper attached to a body Demon of Dark Schemes could be a cheap win con, provided you can actually produce other sources of energy to steal your opponents creatures.
The truth is with the current deck you have built, there really is no 100% go to cheap option for a win con besides obnixilis but hes unreliable. If you completely retooled the deck to be Aetherborn tribal you might have something. The thing is if you want to kill your opponent by draining life you need to be WB RB or some variation of the 3.
1 month ago
FruitLoop7515 so I added Read the Bones to the deck list. In my testing, I felt like Indulgent Tormentor was just a bit too late game for his ability to really be of any use, and he never really made card draw consistent. Read the Bones, however, seems to be relatively early game. It's cheap, with a great effect, and it gives back that scry I so desperately needed after swapping out Titan's Strength for Madcap Skills. Thoughts?