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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Final Payment

Instant

As an additional cost to cast this spell, pay 5 life or sacrifice a creature or enchantment.

Destroy target creature.

abby315 on Apple Accessories, Now with Malware

6 months ago

TIL that WotC didn't make any BW cards that make Cursed Roles for opponent's creatures, even though that's clearly the flavor of this commander. That's so weird! Anyway, love the deck idea. Agadeem's Awakening  Flip is probably a good utility land. Final Payment and Rite of Oblivion could replace some of your 3CMC removal spells to bring the CMC down, since you will have a lot of nonland permanents to move around. Plunge into Darkness could be a decent "tutor" with so much lifegain.

nbarry223 on Viga-BOOM! (better mana)

2 years ago

I decided to go a totally different route and give the deck another avenue of explosiveness, through Heartless Summoning. I had to change around my creatures a bit, and it surprisingly makes the control matches a lot better, so I was able to remove some of the fluff related to those.

I still need to go through and update the deck's description fully, as a lot of the references have changed (sideboarding section in particular). I can also have a lot more explosive opening hands now, and Amulet of Vigor is not nearly as necessary for my hand to be a "good" hand.

It's obviously a bad card late game, but the trade-off seems to be well worth it. I'm also looking at some wish options with "drawbacks" as a way to get rid of the Heartless Summoning, for example, things like Final Payment or Rite of Oblivion. I'm more interested in something actually playable without Heartless Summoning out, like Final Payment, but 5 life is a bit much for a conditional upside.

DemonDragonJ on Innistrad: Midnight Hunt and Crimson …

2 years ago

The new Teferi is awesome, and he certainly could be great in some of my decks, but I do not know if I can remove another card to make room for him, and he definitely will draw the ire of all other [players ion the game.

It is nice to finally have a card of Rem Karolus, who has been mentioned in the stories and flavor text, in previous sets, and I also like the new Ludevic, as well.

Sigardian savior is nice, but the fact that it must be cast in order for the ability to trigger is annoying; is WotC really that concerned about players abusing “enters-the-battlefield” abilities?

The fact that there is a Jack-o’-lantern on Innistrad implies that that plane likely has a legend of a man named Jack who tricked a demon or devil, as does our world.

With Kaya being on Innistrad, I wonder; does her magic of banishing spirits affect the natural system of magic on other planes? Does her power have limits? I cannot help but wonder if she is overpowered.

Sacred fire would have been nice if its flashback cost were not so high.

Given that Final Payment is an instant, is there any good reason for which rite of oblivion is a sorcery?

Kukkakaali on Tuhmeliinit Cube

2 years ago

Version 2.5. No more oyster: - Jaya's Greeting + Young Pyromancer - Chandra's Pyreling + Risk Factor - Chandra's Spitfire + Heartfire Immolator - Spelleater Wolverine + Warlord's Fury

- Aven Eternal + Blink of an Eye - Giant Oyster + Talrand's Invocation - No Escape + Vapor Snag - Witching Well + Mistral Singer - Of One Mind + Peek

Version 2.6. Kaldheim and Strixhaven boosters: - Colossus Hammer + Access Tunnel - Camaraderie + Fall of the Impostor - Cliffhaven Kitesail + Hall of Oracles

- Kin-Tree Invocation + Binding the Old Gods - Boneyard Lurker + Infuse with Vitality - Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner + Moritte of the Frost - Incubation / Incongruity + Quandrix Cultivator - Spellheart Chimera + Prismari Command - Final Payment + Humiliate - Zealous Persecution + Killian, Ink Duelist - Kaya, Bane of the Dead + Closing Statement

- Parhelion Patrol + Glorious Protector - Oppressive Rays + Doomskar - Pouncing Lynx + Codespell Cleric - Inspiring Captain + Leonin Lightscribe

- Concentrate + Behold the Multiverse - Kasmina, Enigmatic Mentor + Saw It Coming

- Fleshbag Marauder + Brackish Trudge - Blight-Breath Catoblepas + Sheoldred, Whispering One - Audacious Thief + Unwilling Ingredient - Hagra Constrictor + Tergrid, God of Fright  Flip - Blood Beckoning + Go Blank - Murder + Poison the Cup - Lazotep Reaver + Umbral Juke - Herald of the Dreadhorde + Feed the Serpent

- Inordinate Rage + Infuriate - Heightened Reflexes + Claim the Firstborn - Furious Rise + Tormentor's Helm - Syr Carah, the Bold + Breakneck Berserker - Fire Servant + Rune of Speed

- Ranger's Guile + Snakeskin Veil - Reclaim the Wastes + Big Play - Scute Mob + Dragonsguard Elite - Loathsome Chimera + Regrowth

Spirits on Undying Persistence

3 years ago

Forgot my friend Erebos, Bleak-Hearted , definitely one of my fav's and fits your indestructible/god theme too. Phyrexian Arena is a good 6 power draw.

Last couple topics,

I made an assumption and grouped Draw above Damage, and Deathtouch above Token.

Deathtouch 16%, Control 16%, Damage/Life 15%, Recursion 8%, Token 6%, Draw 6%, Discard 2%, Ramp 2%, Land 29%

Further on Card Advantage (which includes draw):

I know why your doing it and the thought process behind it, but here's an alternative perspective.

Your cards like Blood Divination , Costly Plunder , Pitiless Pontiff , Bone Splinters , Final Payment , Severed Strands , Spark Harvest are usually paired with LTB effect (like your damage/life and afterlife abilities), more along lines of Grave Pact (Also Dictate of Erebos , Butcher of Malakir , Dark Prophecy , Nightmare Shepherd , Etc.) or Reveillark / Academy Rector types.

The issue is Blood Divination why not Necropotence ( Greed ) for CMC1 less, and no sacrifice, let's you refill your hand anytime, Grim Haruspex /Etc. Why Spark Harvest / Bone Splinters over Swords to Plowshares or Path to Exile or Mortify or even Bloodchief's Thirst / Generous Gift if your after planeswalkers.

So how are creatures getting into the graveyard, if your not sacrificing them along with other effects, a value engine!! Skullclamp is a necessity, Viscera Seer is strong, Phyrexian Altar (this card is cEDH level though), more things like Priest of Forgotten Gods & Ayara, First of Locthwain . Why sacrifice a deathtouch creature to LTB damage/life when you can Corpse Knight instead and get the value up front? Yahenni, Undying Partisan , Village Rites is ok because its CMC1 and Instant, you don't need tutor in battlecruiser/low (up to power 5), but cards like Diabolic Intent which also feed into things like Mausoleum Secrets are value. Ashnod's Altar , Doom Foretold , Razaketh, the Foulblooded , etc.

Key is value in / value out. Don't waste the value out just to enable your recursion. Value-in, Value-out, then recur. More Immortal Servitude (battlefield), less Soul Salvage (hand). Reanimate / Animate Dead (anyone's graveyards), Unburial Rites , Victimize , Agadeem's Awakening  Flip, Revival / Revenge , Command the Dreadhorde , Blood for Bones .

Luminous Broodmoth / Lurrus of the Dream-Den could be some cool interaction with the graveyard.

Topic Interaction:

Kinda touched on it, in previous. Control 16% is quite a bit, inline with power level. If you replace Ashen Rider , Bone Splinters , Final Payment , Severed Strands , Spark Harvest . Some should become the "sac outlets", like Skullclamp / Viscera Seer and some just better interactions (Instant speed whenever possible). Anguished Unmaking , Utter End , Swords to Plowshares , Merciless Eviction , Plaguecrafter / Demon's Disciple (Better Fleshbag Marauder unless your utilizing the Zombie part), Shriekmaw , Path to Exile , Generous Gift , Deadly Rollick , Dire Tactics , Hagra Mauling  Flip, Unmake there's lots.

Burglar Rat : If you like him! Elderfang Disciple , Yarok's Fenlurker , Rotting Rats (with Unearth).

If you want to jump on a teams chat or anything when you have some time happy to help, just discord chat me, hopefully something that helps you focus this deck to a 4-5

Xithon on Liesa, Shroud of A Cool And Catchy Pun

3 years ago

Hey, great job on building your first deck! You seem to have the principles of deck building down and it looks pretty powerful, so I'll just offer some simple card substitutions and why.

Instead of Solemn Offering I would use Crush Contraband because it is instant speed, often hits two targets, and can remove indestructible things. (Though no life gain, which I think is part of your theme.) It is more versatile more often.

Instead of Font of Agonies I would use Dawn of Hope because this card only triggers from four other cards in your deck besides the commander: Erebos, God of the Dead, Hatred, Trading Post, and Final Payment (losing life doesn't equal spending life) I think more utility and draw options are better since you already have a lot of good removal already.

Instead of Tribute to Hunger use Blood Artist because you have so much removal already, and this card doesn't let you target anything. Blood Artist does everything this deck wants to do already and it triggers from any creature's death not just your own.

Throw in a Bojuka Bog and I think you're golden.

Good luck! I hope this was helpful to you.

multimedia on Don't Teysa Me Bro!

3 years ago

Hey, nice budget version of Teysa with Deathmantle and Altar.

Cards to consider adding:

Any game when you have Skullclamp on the battlefield is going to be a better game than if you don't. Adding a few budget tutors that can get Clamp or one of your combo artifacts can be helpful.

Cards to consider cutting:

Good luck with your deck.

staggy97 on Lurrus Aristocrats (with primer)

3 years ago

Thanks for the feedback Swilliam. I didn't know about Pitiless Pontiff or Qarsi Sadist, good suggestions. I agree about needing another sac outlet. I was considering Priest of Forgotten Gods but I think she might be too fragile to be useful in Pioneer. Should I swap out Corpse Knight for one of them?

I was also looking at Final Payment as removal, but I thought Fatal Push would be OK assuming that this deck would amp it up a lot of the time.

I think the 1 drops might need to be looked at as well, Serrated Scorpion might be a better fit here than Bloodsoaked Champion with it's ETB.

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