Creature — Human Shaman
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, create a 1/1 red Elemental token.
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|Ultimate Masters (UMA)||Uncommon|
|Duel Decks: Mind vs. Might (DDS)||Uncommon|
|Eternal Masters (EMA)||Uncommon|
|Magic 2014 (M14)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Young Pyromancer occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%
All decks: 0.16%
All decks: 0.41%
Young Pyromancer Discussion
2 weeks ago
The reason you play Kykar, Pyromancer and Ascendancy is to get more value out of casting instants/sorceries especially Kykar because Spirits can be ramp. The Spirits/Elementals and draw/discard are bonuses for every instant/sorcery you cast. Which is good because the more value you can get out of the cards you cast the better your deck will be and the more fun game play will be.
Sevinne is very lackluster because you can only copy one spell a turn and that spell has to be cast from your graveyard. These restrictions are terribly slow since most flashback costs are a lot of mana and there's not enough good flashback cards to matter. If you want to play a spell heavy theme which is called "Spellslinger" then you're better off playing instants that copy other spells you cast or your opponents cast: Expansion / Explosion , Narset's Reversal , Reverberate , Increasing Vengeance . These are better than relying on Sevinne and having spells in your graveyard as well as having a way to cast them from your graveyard.
Thousand-Year Storm gives you the effect you want with copying instants/sorceries you cast and it copies any one you cast from hand or graveyard not just the first one you cast from your graveyard. Thousand-Year also copies the spell you cast equal to the number of spells you cast before it during the turn. This effect is called "Storm" in Magic and it's one of the most powerful mechanics in Magic. Mind's Desire is an example of a powerful budget card with Storm.
In the Mystic Intellect precon Elsha of the Infinite is a better card and overall better Commander General than Sevinne. You can cast noncreature/nonland cards on the top of your library with Elsha this includes instants/sorceries. Can cast sorceries on the top of your library as instants which with Spellslinger is very good. Elsha has Prowess, she gets bigger until end of turn the more noncreature spells you cast each turn. She can be a threat to do Commander damage by playing the Spellslinger theme.
You could change the precon into a Spellslinger deck with Elsha as General. With Elsha you don't have the restriction of playing cards that have flashblack instead you can play the best instant/sorceries that Jeskai can offer which does include some cards with flashback. Being able to cast instant/sorceries from the top of your library is better and faster than what Sevinne does. Elsha doesn't want a lot of creatures because her ability can't be used with creature cards, but some creatures who give you value when you cast instants/sorceries are good. This is an example of a budget creature base with Elsha:
- Soulfire Grand Master
- Young Pyromancer
- Kykar, Wind's Fury
- God-Eternal Kefnet
- Niv-Mizzet, Parun
Elsha works with Planeswalkers because a Planeswalker is not a creature card. Ral, Storm Conduit and Narset, Parter of Veils are budget Planeswalkers who interact well with instants/sorceries. Ral's -2 loyalty ability can copy an instant/sorcery you cast and he combos with Expansion / Explosion and other instant/sorceries that copy. Elsha works with artifacts which is helpful because mana rocks can be used for ramp to play Elsha/Thousand-Year faster and then afterwards when cast they count toward Elsha's Prowess.
2 weeks ago
Looking through that page you might consider the following
Chain Reaction , Cathartic Reunion , Narset's Reversal , Opt , Baral, Chief of Compliance , Soulfire Grand Master , Propaganda , God-Eternal Kefnet , Smothering Tithe , Primal Amulet Flip, Young Pyromancer , Jeskai Ascendancy , Swords to Plowshares , Kykar, Wind's Fury , Goblin Electromancer .
I have not played the deck so my suggestions might all be crap :) Good luck.
3 weeks ago
In rough order of how much I like them:
I recently saw a deck based around Haunted Dead that played Prized Amalgam + other graveyard shenanigans, Fiery Temper , and Elder Deep-Fiend in Pioneer, so that was pretty cool and synergistic although not a standard two card combo.
3 weeks ago
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Suggestions on how to build:
You need to think much more clearly about what your payoff will be. In Modern, the established Orzhov Tokens deck has plenty of generators, but wouldn't be nearly as powerful without cards like Intangible Virtue , Windbrisk Heights , and Legion's Landing Flip. Another payoff is that token generators are "creature" spells without being creature spells and synergize well with Bedlam Reveler and Young Pyromancer . The 8-whack style of pure aggression using the extra bodies to your advantage also works
I also agree with Boza that three colors is difficult on a budget. Another good option is going for 75% one color and splashing for the really good cards outside that color. I think you should cut black and may be able to focus on red depending on how it ends up.
Specific suggestions for this deck:
From what I saw, you really like aggressive red creatures that also create tokens. I think a good place to start would just be capping the curve at three mana and filling the deck with cheap aggressive cards. So cut anything above three mana and Impact Tremors and Dragonmaster Outcast . My favorites from your deck: Legion Warboss , Hanweir Garrison , Goblin Rabblemaster , I like many of your two-mana choices, but I think testing will decide whether you need immediate board presence with Goblin Instigator effects or the possibility of a larger board presence later with Skyknight Vanguard effects.
My suggestions: Reckless Bushwhacker (aggressive and cheap payoff card), Launch the Fleet (flexible generator), Venerated Loxodon (payoff card/bomb that you should be casting for one mana), Brimaz, King of Oreskos (just fine in this deck), Zealous Persecution (I know I told you to cut black, but this honestly seems good enough to splash for), and Legion's Landing Flip (good early, great late).
1 month ago
JacenSolo29 I think there are a few things: 1) Mardu Pyromancer has fallen out of majority usage, 2) the build has morphed (no Young Pyromancer and 4 copies Bedlam Reveler , and 3) I think TappedOut may have fixed/updated its ranking system.
1 month ago
ZendikariWol Thanks for the list! A lot of what you have are things that didn't make the initial cut for my list, but they're still very much considerations. You're right, I definitely am aiming to punch through with Feather for commander damage voltron-type wins, but I mostly avoided the straight stat-pumping spells in favor of more removal like Soul's Fire and more combo-type cards like Overblaze . My deck is also very much a work in progress, as Feather is such a tricky but rewarding commander to build around. My general philosophy with the deck, because RW is so poor at gaining card advantage, is to run a bunch of cards I wouldn't normally run (like Thaumatic Compass Flip and Expedition Map ) to make sure I don't get mana screwed and make sure almost all my targeting spells have some kind of built-in advantage (like scry or draw). The ones that don't I just feel very iffy about.
One major difference in our lists is I seem to be going much more into the tokens strategy than yours--I've decided to play into the targeting theme with Zada, Hedron Grinder and Mirrorwing Dragon and have added Young Pyromancer and Spawning Breath to help with that. That's because I worry about running a voltron strategy and getting swamped by creatures I can't deal with. It's possible cutting those cards could lead to a more powerful one-punch strategy, but I also play this deck mostly in a multi-player environment and therefore feel I have to maximize card advantage whenever possible. For the record, this deck has historically proven to be pretty powerful and regularly takes out full tables of opponents. But there's always room for improvement. I'll definitely consider some of your card choices as I continue testing.