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|Premium Deck Series: Fire and Lightning (PFL)||Uncommon|
|2011 Core Set (M11)||Uncommon|
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Creature — Elemental
If a red instant or sorcery spell you control would deal damage, it deals double that damage instead.
Fire Servant Discussion
1 month ago
1 month ago
I hope at least some of this is helpful!
First of all, 1x Bojuka Bog can be a mainboard land that fulfills the same utility as Tormod's Crypt. An additional 1x Scavenger Grounds can supplement the Bog and add flexibility. If you're planning on shelling out crazy cash for shocks and fetches, you might as well add 1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , too.
I second UndeadxPenguins in moving the Leylines to the sideboard. I might go even farther and say that Leyline of the Void might not be worth it. Generally speaking, I prefer spells that apply to all opponents - IE - I'm excluded from the effects.
Multiplayer burn is basically impossible. I totally understand wanting to make a Rakdos burn deck instead of a Boros one. I, too, feel a seemingly innate desire to break convention. Additionally, I've had the fortune of pulling a full set of Dragonskull Summit s from booster packs, so I've trying to build a multiplayer Rakdos deck. That said, neither red nor black are colors I use regularly or primarily and I'm sorry to report my efforts have yet to yield any results I'm particularly pleased with. For reference, my most recent attempts are: Tainted Aria and Forgotten Elements. One take-away from those decks Aria of Flame and Priest of Forgotten Gods - each says "...any number of target players..." or "each opponent" - there aren't hoards of cards that have language like that, so any spells that strike your fancy that have language like that are going to be good. All that said, I doubt you'll ever be able to deal damage fast enough to more than one opponent with any consistency. That doesn't mean you can't make a darn mean deck, but that perhaps it would be better to forego the goal of speed in favor of broader, repeatable effects.
I think one way around the obvious limit of trying to deal out 40 or even 60 damage with a burn deck in a multiplayer format is to include more passive threats - dropping some instants in favor of creatures and enchantments - I'm thinking spells like Eidolon of the Great Revel , Harsh Mentor , and Manabarbs . While, like spells that say "all opponents," there aren't a ton of these sort of spells out there, there are some good ones.
Since you're running so few creatures, perhaps it would also be worth considering board wipes as a means of dealing with multiplayer threats. Blasphemous Act comes to mind, as well as the eternally popular Damnation .
Angrath, the Flame-Chained seems like a possible fit, though I question the CMC viability.
I suggest you add "Multiplayer" to this decks hubs.
I don't put any stock in TappedOut's "Competitive Meter." I showed with my deck, 100% Competitive, 100% Loser that the Meter does not take into account the interaction between cards. So if you make changes and the Meter says it's less competitive, I wouldn't worry at all.
Sideboard: Everlasting Torment , Dismember - deals with indestructibles, Extirpate / Surgical Extraction , Geth's Verdict - deals with Hexproofs and Shrouds, Pithing Needle , Ratchet Bomb , Elixir of Immortality .
2 months ago
This is definitely a good first attempt. Some suggestions though would be to cut Fight with Fire , Fire Servant , Treasure Map Flip , Magus of the Wheel , Integrity / Intervention , Sword of the Animist , Dualcaster Mage , Fumigate , Sunbird's Invocation and Vessel of Endless Rest and swap them out for Blasphemous Act , Repercussion , Heartwarming Redemption , Mogg Maniac , Cathartic Reunion , Open the Armory , Marble Diamond , Boros Reckoner , Enlightened Tutor and Fire Diamond
2 months ago
Before I begin, I'd like to preface this with the fact that I want this to work, you have no idea.
1.) How do you intend to fish out Genju of the Spires ? It seems fairly important for the deck to run, but I worry it will get flooded out of the odds by the 56 Mountains.
2.) How do you cast things when there's little/no land on your side of the field? I think a deck like this would appreciate some kind of ramp, especially since Fling is going to get hella pricey after the first one or two castings.
What others already said:
Jaya Ballard ; doubles as draw power.
Chandra, Torch of Defiance ; also doubles as an additional source of damage.
Pyromancer's Goggles ; more for spell duplication, but still. Why wouldn't anyone want to duplicate Fling here?
Neheb, the Eternal ; almost necessary with how much Fling will cost down the road. You'll get at least 4-6 mana in the post-combat main phase for the Fling you casted earlier.
Crucible of Worlds ; it would be good to have at least a second form of land recursion. It's one the best pieces you can hope for outside of Green.
Crawlspace ; see above.
Repercussion ; another form of creature suppression in its own way.
Fire Servant ; even more Fling mileage; doesn't double damage dealt to you.
. . .
That's all that comes to mind off the top of my head. I'll be interested in seeing if/how this deck progresses.
7 months ago
I did get to try it out, but not as much as I'd like. Busy, busy, busy... The few games I have had have been hit or miss. While people don't expect the punishment neheb can deal out, once they know, you (and him) become targets. I've been able to crush the table a few times, make a draw here and there, and lost a few. I've also changed quite a few things from other neheb player's suggestions.
Stuffy Doll to hate a specific player, Combustible Gearhulk big guy with draw or damage, Fire Servant more ouch, Thermo-Alchemist Not sure what to think yet, seems decent, Insult quick doubling damage and some prevention prevention, Magebane Armor makes neheb a bigger tank and avoids your own hate-everything spells, Doubling Cube redonk. I had 100+ mana with it out, Caged Sun eh, chopping block. Kinda helpful but also expensive. Flamekin Village and Hanweir Battlements haste in a pinch, since I can't afford the crazy haste land from kamigawa, Smoldering Crater and some other cyclers for helpful draws later on in the game.
I ended up not using godo or the other card, since I came to the same conclusions you did with them. I also dropped aggravated assault after I hit a table with infinite neheb turns and felt yucky afterwards, haha. All in all, it's been very fun, and I'm still eager for lots more testing when the time of year where everyone isn't busy rolls around again. I also made your firesong and sunspeaker deck but have had zero plays with real people yet, so there's something to look forward to as well. Thanks for responding and I hope to see some update love for these decks in the future with new sets. /wall of text
9 months ago
I would cut a lot of cards here, try to streamline the boros spellslinger build. Tajic, Victory's Herald, Serra Ascendant. I'd cut Boros Keyrune and Manalith for more efficient rocks (Probably Hedron Archive and Boros Cluestone, since boros is atrocious in card draw. Also run Red copy effects, such as Increasing Vengeance. I would also include Jaya Ballard, Fire Servant, Warleader's Helix, to name a few.
10 months ago
- Vandalize, + Abrade
- SoFi, + Swiftfoot Boots
- Sword of the Animist, + Hammer of Nazahn
- Duergar Hedge-Mage, + Primal Amulet Flip
- Phyrexian Processor, + Furnace of Rath
- Taj-Nar Swordsmith, + Heartless Hidegetsu
- Stoneforge Mystic, + Fire Servant
- Ritual of Rejuvination, + Revitalize
- Nahiri, the Harbinger, + Young Pyromancer
- Ray of Distortion, + Charmbreaker Devils
- Reaping the Rewards, + Reverberate
Also find room for Righteous Confluence Fiery Confluence Rune-Tail, Kitsune Ascendant Blaze Commando Radiate Jaya Ballard Braid of Fire Dictate of the Twin Gods Runechanter's Pike Dualcaster Mage Dual Casting Reiterate
1 year ago
@Suns_Champion: Since you don't agree that a cEDH competitive Boros Deck is possible, I just want your thoughts on this in general, & how much more competitive it would take to trump your Firesong & Sunspeaker deck as well. What other X-Burns do you recommend, as well as other stuff that might be of use alongside fixed burn spells? Also, you think Fire Servant might work here? I'm trying to get as close to CMC2 as possible as a standard for cEDH...
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