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Tribute to Hunger
Target opponent sacrifices a creature. You gain life equal to that creature's toughness.
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Tribute to Hunger Discussion
2 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
Ob Nixilis Reignited is there for flavor (demon) and card draw. If nothing else it diverts some attention for a turn or 2. I like having him in the deck. Like you said Sorin, Grim Nemesis is a fucking bomb. I can't get myself to cut either one.
The "maybeboard" is never stuff I own. Its future pick ups. I guess everyone uses it differently.
Thoughts on Angel of Condemnation? I packed one and I think its interesting but I dont know if its actually good or not.. also is there anything in my Jaleva deck that could be better used here?? I dont want to hurt that deck... but its a new one and its less important than this one. Under A Serpent Sun
3 weeks ago
Three more comments:
First, how have planeswalkers worked for you? I always find them to be super fragile, and they never perform as well as I like. I have removed every planeswalker I have trialled in my Queen Marchesa: Politics, Aikido, and Control deck. I would say that Sorin, Grim Nemesis may be an occasional bomb, but Ob Nixilis Reignited looks like a total dud, with both being way too slow for any real effect on the game. I would be tempted to remove both for stronger cards.
Second, I see that both Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile are in your maybeboard. These are both amazing cards. Oblivion Ring is in your maindeck, and without support, Oblivion Ring is just OK. Unless it is a matter of not having them, both Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile should be in your deck, and you should be able to find better cards than Oblivion Ring. There are many more spot creature removal cards that would be better. I would suggest Vindicate, and if you really like the edtic effects, you could retain To the Slaughter and Tribute to Hunger, and add Smallpox, Chainer's Edict, Diabolic Edict, and Geth's Verdict.
Third, you have very little pillow fort in here. That is completely fine, as not all decks want it, but I am not sure what Ghostly Prison will do for you without support. You need to figure out the focus of your deck first, and if a pillow fort is not part of it, remove Ghostly Prison. It will do you little good alone.
3 weeks ago
Some people love Burnished Hart and Pilgrim's Eye. I never end up playing them. I even always end up remoiving Solemn Simulacrum, but that is also a great card. I just don't really like the semi-manadork cards.
For Queen Marchesa, I lean toward mana fixing and and ramp in the to CMC slot. These allow you to cast your Queen earlier than turn 4, and get the Monarch our early. The Signets, Mind Stone, Talisman of Indulgence, these all get cast turn 2, ramping into a turn 3 Queen Marchesa. If you want her for early board presence, early card draw, and early defense/control, concentrate on getting her out early. Your curve is much higher than mine, but every one of those cards gets you your big fatties 1 turn earlier.
As far as control goes, you could immediately and very cheaply upgrade the control elements by swapping To the Slaughter and Tribute to Hunger out for Fleshbag Marauder and Merciless Executioner. CMC isexactly the same, both can be sacrificed to themselves or you can sacrifice another creature to them, and they hit all players, not just one. Given that the other player decides, I never found that the instant speed was that important compared to hitting everyone.
I will have to think about your use of Queen Marchesa.I totally get where you are coming from. It just may take me a while to understand how to best position Queen Marchesa to stand in for Kaalia of the Vast in a midrange angels/demons deck.
1 month ago
g0regrind Thanks for taking a look, and taking the time to comment! I love the suggestions, and while I've been playing for years, I admittedly don't have a lot of experience playing anything other than kitchen table games with my friends. Naturally, I wanted to add all the stuff my normal Demon deck would have, but I thought it would be fun to give Modern a go, and see what I could come up with.
I think I'll be including the Bloodgift Demon, Tendrils of Corruption, and Read the Bones, all of which I have handy. I'll definitely have to add a Heartless Summoning, the flavor and mana saving are way too good to ignore. Tribute to Hunger as well, if I'm paying life, I should have a good way of getting it back. I also never liked Larceny, but it was available at the moment. I kind of suspected I'd be removing it at some point down the road.
The real standouts in your recommendations are the Desecration Demon and the Whip of Erebos. I used to love running Grinning Demon as a 4CMC drop, the Desecration Demon is leaps and bounds better. And to give a bunch of big body demons lifelink is like Christmas coming early.
I'll take a look through your deck as well, and see what fits the flavor, legality, and budget. Thank you again!
1 month ago
Hey there. Prepare for a wall of text, as I think you're on to something here but could benefit a lot from some additional information.
As I have been building and playing with a Demon deck for a few years now, and my group is transitioning from casual Legacy to Modern, I have a ton of suggestions, but I will try to keep them moderately priced, assuming you are operating on a budget.
The main reason that Demons aren't played by a wide array of people is that they cannot efficiently operate without mana acceleration. Your idea is to go the sacrificing route, but in its current form that is quite inconsistent, as there aren't many demons that you can push out quickly.
I see two main avenues you could go in order to push out Demons fairly quickly and with more consistency, and without having to play weak-ass creatures (That's not the point of a demon deck after all). Outside of Modern it would be considerably easier, but lets go the Modern route.
Route 1: Mana acceleration
The problem in modern is, that most mana acceleration engines are banned. Currently you don't have too many choices in this department and they rely on creature spells, which are prone to removal.
- Crypt Ghast Pretty good card, can let you push out any and all Demons in Turn 5, including Reiver Demon
- Nirkana Revenant 6 Mana is quite a lot, just to boost your actual mana-generation. Not recommended.
- Korlash, Heir to Blackblade Probably your best bet, as it can be incredibly powerful but likely not in your budget.
- Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx Again, probably not in your budget.
Route 2: Creature cost decrease
- Heartless Summoning Let this one sink in. It can be incredibly powerful and allow you to drop bombs as early as turn 5 and with consistency. If you rely solely on demons and other big stompers, the -1/-1 won't bother you in the slightest.
Specific card critique
- If you play Demons (which don't need any powerup) and plan to sacrifice your smaller creatures (they would die inevitably, the powerup would be wasted), there is no reason to play Unholy Strength.
- Tendrils of Corruption is probably better here than Consume Spirit
- It depends on the circumstance, but to keep you alive Tribute to Hunger can be better than Dark Banishing
- Larceny is just bad, unless multiples of your Imps survive until round 5, which is not a given.
- Oni Possession You might be trading three cards for one removal spell here. First, you sacrifice a creature, then you enchant your own. If the enemy casts a simple removal spell, you lost three cards, for +3/+3 and 3 mana.
Now, for the good part! More Demons, more powerful cards, a better mana curve and a stronger competitive focus!
- Desecration Demon Arguably the best Demon for a budget. He was even features in the duel deck, albeit a different one. And you really need more cards in the 4-mana Slot. With Heartless Summoning it can be played for 2, is a 5/5 flier and let's your opponents sacrifice creatures!
- Mutilate Boardsweeper, in case you end up being dominated before you can get out your fatties. As a bonus, if played early, your fatties will survive.
- Bloodgift Demon A 5-mana flying, demonized Phyrexian Arena. A total bomb.
- Read the Bones or Night's Whisper or Ambition's Cost Card Draw for a budget.
- Whip of Erebos Can be ridiculously overpowered in this deck.
- Lightning Greaves Haste and protection for 2 mana. Probably worth the investment, as it can be a powerhouse in most decks.
1 month ago
Let's start by lands;
Exquisite Archangel is too slow, Kingpin's Pet is bad, Tithe Drinker is so-so and costs as much as your commander, so most of the time you'll want to cast your commander instead of it.
DRmagic2017 made some good creatures suggestions. I personally suggest Soul Warden, Soul Attendant and Drana's Emissary in those. Otherwise, I suggest Rhox Faithmender, Wall of Reverence and Nyx-Fleece Ram.
Ouch. Let's start by replacing all of them exception made of Soul's Grace (you made me discover that card, and i need to get it, thanks) and replace by any of the following :
Grim Discovery and Wander in Death could be replaced easily. Profane Command is not that good. You don't run that many precious creatures...
You're quite well builded in there, there's only like two you can easily replace.
Pyramid of the Pantheon and Bontu's Monument.
Curse of Vengeance, Font of Return, Quest for the Gravelord and Unhallowed Pact could be easily replaced. SUggestions to replace for...
Ajani's Mantra, Test of Endurance, Sphere of Safety, Whip of Erebos, Darksteel Mutation (to deny enemy commanders), Oblivion Ring, Banishing Light, Cradle of Vitality is slow but is a good mana dump, Polluted Bonds, Retreat to Hagra, Vampiric Link...
Hope that helps.