Ghave, Guru of Spores
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Ghave, Guru of Spores

Legendary Creature — Fungus Shaman

Ghave, Guru of Spores enters the battlefield with five +1/+1 counters on it.

, Remove a +1/+1 counter from a creature you control: Create a 1/1 green Saproling creature token.

, Sacrifice a creature: Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.

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Gidgetimer on Simic Prime Speaker

4 months ago

I'm confused what you think Tormod's Crypt does because Prime Speaker Vannifar only searches your library, not exile. You may be thinking of something like Elixir of Immortality.

On the issue of lands, most EDH decks do tend to run closer to 36-37 with extreme cases running down to under 30 and personally most of my decks running 33-34. However; this is due to low curves and high inclusion of ramp, which you are not doing. For example my Ghave, Guru of Spores has an average MV of 2.94, which is pretty close to yours in this deck, and is running 33 lands. But I have 8 mana dorks, 1 ramp sorcery, 1 ramp enchantment, and 9 mana rocks for a total of 19 ramp sources 3 cmc or under.

I don't know if you are interested in buying singles or even if you need to power up the deck for your playgroup, but I would at least add whatever mana dorks cmc 3 or less that you have. (I can't seem to find your collection tracker on here)

DemonDragonJ on Reap what is Sown

5 months ago

I have replaced Vulturous Zombie with Ghave, Guru of Spores, because, while the zombie was nice, it was merely a flying beater, while Ghave far better fits the theme of this deck.

DemonDragonJ on Vulturous Zombie or Ghave, Guru …

5 months ago

Gidgetimer, yes, you are correct, and I admit that I was being overly-dramatic, so I am very sorry about that.

As for the subject, I have decided to replace Vulturous Zombie with Ghave, Guru of Spores, since the zombie was merely a flying beater, while Ghave far better fits the theme of the deck.

Gidgetimer on Vulturous Zombie or Ghave, Guru …

5 months ago

I can't speak for anyone else, but I wasn't responding because I have no constructive input. I feel that Ghave, Guru of Spores is better at the helm of his own deck, but I don't think he would be bad per se in the linked deck. It isn't that you are a pariah, bud. It is more that no one has any strong feelings or useful insights that would make the decision easier.

DemonDragonJ on Vulturous Zombie or Ghave, Guru …

5 months ago

I am contemplating putting Ghave, Guru of Spores into my Teneb, the Harvester EDH deck, since that deck has a strong focus on sacrificing creatures, and I believe that I can remove Vulturous Zombie to make room for Ghave, since the zombie is nice, but I feel that Ghave is a better match for the deck's theme.

What does everyone else say about this? Should I replace Vulturous Zombie with Ghave, Guru of Spores?

Shazica on

1 year ago

I have a very similar deck with Reyhan, Last of the Abzan and Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker as commanders. I was looking into having Atraxa as a commander instead, but Atraxa is infamous for being a very strong creature that amasses tons of scary, unpredictable value - it is a poison deck? Is it a +1/+1 counters deck? Is it a superfriends deck? Most often, you will find that the other players have Rule 0-ed you as the archenemy before the game begins.

There are two things you can do about this. You can either rise up to the challenge, or you can change commander.

If you want to take on the challenge of constant Archenemy because you want to keep Atraxa, then you have multiple cards that are too weak. Some of which are Arcus Acolyte, the three Myojins, Pollenbright Druid, Murder, Magistrate's Scepter, Chromatic Lantern, Vivisurgeon's Insight, and Expand the Sphere for starters. There are probably 10-20 more I would consider cutting, since these are too casual for the level of play you're signaling with Atraxa. Instead, run low-mana spells like Nature's Lore, Night's Whisper, Fierce Guardianship, Heroic Intervention, Flawless Maneuver, Deadly Rollick, Mystic Remora, Cyclonic Rift, Negate, Swan Song, the WUBG shock lands with their fetches, the list goes on... This won't make your deck cEDH, this will make it more reliable, reactive, and consistent in answering most of your opponents stuff.

If you want to change commanders, you can go for Falco Spara, Pactweaver for value, Anafenza, the Foremost for aggressive, Ghave, Guru of Spores for combo, or the partner pairings of Cazur, Ruthless Stalker  Flip + Ukkima, Stalking Shadow, or Nikara, Lair Scavenger + Yannik, Scavenging Sentinel. All of these will force you to abandon a fourth color, but restriction breeds creativity...?

Side note 1: You can still run Atraxa in the 99, that is a more commonly accepted usage.

Side note 2: You have two Ivy Lane Denizen.

Gidgetimer on How Many EDH Decks Do …

1 year ago

I answered early and want to get in on some of the extra info that people were sharing. Decks in order from strongest to weakest are

Tayam, Luminous Enigma Rube Goldberg Combo

Chulane, Teller of Tales Mana dork tribal/"Honest" Thoracle

Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons -1/-1 Synergies

Minsc and Boo, Timeless Heroes Fast combat damage (used to be Xenagos, God of Revels big dumb beaters. My son took over the deck and then wanted to switch the commanders so I retooled it)

Ghave, Guru of Spores Tokens

Sythis, Harvest's Hand Enchantress

Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm Dragon tribal

Jodah, the Unifier Legendaries

Alela, Artful Provocateur Vehicles

First three are pretty hard combo and I would play them at cEDH tables despite missing some pieces that would make them truly over the top. Next three are for what I find the average playgroup to be. Playing impactful cards but nothing that people can't deal with. Last three are for when there are new players with out of the box or slightly upgraded precons or when I am throwing games. They do stuff but it is slow.

Pip count:

White 7

Blue 4

Black 5

Red 3

Green 8

Unsurprising to me red is my least played color. The fact that green and white are so close is interesting to me. The "strongest" and "weakest" colors in commander are only 1 apart and first and second in how much I play them. Though there are 6 decks that have both so maybe I am just a Selesnya player.

Guerric on [Primer] Helming the Host of Heaven *Update*

1 year ago


Pyre of Heroes is a card I love that I've definitely considered putting in here, and which I may put in here still. It is at its best in toolbox tribal decks, and is arguably one of the all-stars of my Inalla, Archmage Ritualist deck, and should probably go into my elfball deck as well. It's main advantage here is that it allows us to tutor out whatever angel we want, though we do so at the cost of some mana and an angel which costs less. There are instances where this can be great, such as to get Linvala, Keeper of Silence out when we want her, or to help to form Brisela. It could also help us replace angels targeted with single target removal- if we have mana open we can just sac the targeted angel and bring something else out in its place for short mana. It would also give us tutoring that we don't have a lot of in white. It wouldn't be broken in this deck the way it is in tribal decks with more toolbox effects, but it might not draw as much hate either. If I do put it in, Together Forever is the sort of card I might put it in in place of. While it isn't as good in a board wipe, it is arguably better in many situations with targeted removal as we can just replace the lost piece with a costlier spell.

I think Pyre of Heroes could be good regardless of whether we have the combo, but Breathkeeper Seraph is a card I am a bit more dicey on. While on its own it definitely protects itself and one other creature from destruction (but not exile, bouncing, etc) it costs 6 mana, and I am pretty picky with cards in that range. In the combo it's amazing and works as a draw piece, but outside of the combo I'm not too jazzed about it, though I am open to it and certainly don't think it's useless. Unexpected synergies like these can make the deck stronger if they don't weaken our primary gameplan too much.

The Ozolith is a card that's been suggested and considered from the beginning along with a host of other counter-moving shenanigans cards. While I think it's the most worthy inclusion of such cards, I've still never been personally too jazzed about it. We aren't really focused on counters shenanigans in this deck as we leave those to Ghave, Guru of Spores and Heliod/Ballista decks, and devoting more than one card to this subtheme would water down our gold-fishing. This card on its own could protect our counters as you say, but I'm just not sure it would work so well as to be worth it. This might just me my playgroup, but artifact hate of all kinds (destruction, bouncing, etc) is plentiful and this is exactly the sword of card they would blow up as a matter of principle, especially if they just board wiped and wanted to make sure I couldn't just put those counters on the first creature that I play afterwards. If I thought it would work out I would be more open to it, but I see it doing nothing more often than not in my group. Nonetheless, I wouldn't see any harm in trying it out. Every play group is different and sometimes things could be possible like knocking someone out with commander damage by putting them on Giada. I don't see this being likely in my groups, but I could be wrong!

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