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Hurkyl's Recall Discussion
11 hours ago
I'm not sure what kind of budget you're looking at, so I'm going to try to keep from suggesting anything too up there.
I'd swap out Purphoros for Reckless Fireweaver . You'll probably end up doing the same amount of damage, but I've found it paints less of a target on you. And Riddlesmith can give you an effect that's similar to Jhoira's, if you want the redundancy.
Stoic Rebuttal is at best Counterspell , and at worst no better than Cancel , so I would just run Counterspell. I know you'll have the Metalcraft 99% of the time, but other than flavor there's no reason to use it instead.
One of the nice things about this deck is how little color mana you need, so I'd upgrade your lands. Since you're running two artifact lands you may as well add in Darksteel Citadel too. Buried Ruin is great for any artifact heavy deck. And Ash Barrens , Grixis Panorama , and Shivan Reef can help color fix for you without slowing you down or hurting you too much. You only have four potential triggers (plus I guess two more for the X spells you have) for Sanctum of Ugin , so I would run another tutor over it, but that's a personal preference. I would also swap out more Mountains for Islands, since your deck is blue heavy, but if you don't have any problems with the ratio then don't worry about it.
Hope some of this was helpful!
1 month ago
legacys allure seems weak here, its a horrible topdeck when you need an answer. I get why it is good if you get it say turn 1 or 2 but after that its pretty bad. You should probably replace it with something more useful like Hurkyl's Recall or even Rebuild
1 month ago
Should consider Expedition Map for fetching and abusing Academy Ruins . If you lean heavier into stax, you should look at 1 cmc cantrip sac artifacts, it will help you grind value. Chromatic Star Chromatic Sphere . Also, Aether Spellbomb should replace Legacy's Allure .
Personally, I think leaning more into stax is a good idea with this deck. All sorts of great artifacts you could abuse Howling Mine Phyrexian Revoker Torpor Orb Pithing Needle Mana Web Orb of Dreams Tangle Wire
Sands of Time has a lot of potential here as well.
1 month ago
Here are my thoughts, in no particular order
Your land base is just 1 card away from running Tainted Pact for use with Labman lines. You should ditch that 2x island and run it. Also run the new Jace as a back up.
Omniscience + Show and Tell should be cut. Replace with Dramatic Reversal + Isochron Scepter . Its a more compact win, doesn't have the opportunity to blow up in your face, combos with Top and Copy Artifact, and both pieces have higher quality than the pieces they are replacing.
You run a lot of large CMC junk cards that will either end as dead draws or don't win upon resolving. Consecrated Sphinx should be put into play with reanimation, but since you don't run you should cut. Bolas's Citadel is just a bad Ad Nauseum. The handful of wheel cards over 3 CMC should be cut. Why spend that time giving your opponents cards on a soft combo when you could be tutoring and winning with the very easy A + B of Labman + pact? Specifically, Time Spiral Wheel and Deal Reforge the Soul Whispering Madness . Replace those cards with more format staple counterspells and removal. Swan Song Dispel Flusterstorm Red Elemental Blast Abrade Shattering Spree .
Really not wild about Molten Psyche or Winds of Change either. You are losing card advantage on both (-1 to be precise). Notion Thief and Waste Not are both strong when used with a wheel, but it isn't worth devoting that many deck slots to combos that don't explicitly win. You would be better off running tutors instead, which will help you get whichever A or B part of the Notion Wheel combo you don't have in your hand.
You really don't need to run Mission Briefing if you are running Snapcaster AND yawgill AND past in flames.
You should highly consider Chain of Vapor as well as Hurkyl's Recall . Both allow you to gain mana and storm when combined with the mana positive rocks, which feeds into your Aetherflux Reservoir line. They also double as removal and can combo break opponents who are trying to win.
You should include Mana Vault , its much better than Basalt Monolith . Thought Vessel should also be cut, even Prismatic Lens is better. The no maximum hand size will literally never be relevant, because if you are drawing that many cards you should be able to win instead of passing the turn. If you do have to discard down to 7, just keep the 7 that allow you to win and protect the win. You should also run Chrome Mox because of the high card advantage you generate.
28 lands means you're in danger of getting staxed out, very easily. Any artifact hate with early taxes means you're caught and discarding cards for multiple turns. The land base you're running could also use a tune up. You should include the painlands Underground River etc. as they enter untapped and provide color diversity without extra requirements. The two-or-more-opponents lands I'm not a fan of, but playing in a pod means they'll be live. The two-or-fewer-lands lands I'm not a fan of, and firmly believe you should cut. Checklands are fine, but replaceable long term. You should also run more rainbowlands, specifically Forbidden Orchard Gemstone Caverns Tarnished Citadel . If you are running Tolaria West as a 0 drop tutor, don't count it as a land towards your total, if you're running it as an island, it comes out tapped so cut it.
Your cantrips are a bit goofy too. Thought Scour should be replaced with Sleight of Hand , which gives you more flexibility about the card you get as well as gets around draw restrictions such as Alms Collector or Spirit of the Labyrinth . Fact or Fiction is simply too much CMC. I'm personally not a fan of Scroll Rack but that's entirely your call.
Terminate should be Pongify or Rapid Hybridization . Its 1 cmc cheaper and less color intensive, and if you lose to a 3/3 token you were going to lose anyways. Notably, Kess can kill the token by blocking.
1 month ago
1 month ago
Agent_Tibbs Great question,
Hurkyl's Recall was in my original list. However, the ability to cycle away Rebuild if the storm plan isn't working has proven to be valuable. Though it pings us for an extra damage, I haven't run into any issues by playing it over recall. At the end of the day, it comes down to preference on that slot!
Thanks for the reply!
1 month ago
1 month ago
First off, I would strongly recommend that you stick to only 1 plan B unless you have decided to lose to a couple decks before going to the tournament (I usually plan on losing to humans and hollow one sometimes). Sideboard slots for this deck are thin as really we only have 11 with Leyline of Sanctity being mandatory. It's possible to run 2 plan B's, heck I once ran a Gifts Ungiven package but at a larger tournament I wouldn't recommend it, in your local meta sure as presumably the pool is less diverse and you can get away with maybe not playing something like Hurkyl's Recall , but at a larger tournament that can come back to bite you, for example at a GP I once took out a card from the board as it only hit a couple matchups and I wanted some other matchups to be tighter and proceeded to play the one deck the card I took out was good against 3 times out of the first 4 rounds. At large tournaments its a hard call sometimes but generally don't make a decision that isn't necessary which will cost you games for simply making your percentage slightly higher against something else.
As for The Scorn it is a card that is actually a favorite of mine and one I commonly play (you just happen to have found my list at a time that I am not on it unfortunately) I briefly mention my thoughts on The Scorn in the primer and I'll quote myself here to save you having to look around for it:
" Patrician's Scorn : A free removal spell, Patrician's Scorn has proven to be a very flexible card out of the sideboard in the right meta (though is probably too narrow for most big tournaments). Unlike other enchantment removal, Patrician's Scorn has the ability to cause a win out of nowhere via casting it upon the resolution of Angel's Grace or in response to Phyrexian Unlife removing problem enchantments. Very meta-dependent card however."
The way the card was errata'ed? (I guess it would have to be a gerund so erratandum but it isn't really a verb in the English, this is proof taking a Latin word to English sometimes doesn't work) makes it more interesting seeing how the alternate cost can be paid upon the "casting" of another white spell not just the resolution meaning it can be cast for free in response to Phyrexian Unlife . I will reiterate what I said in the primer however, its usage is very meta dependent. If you expect to see a lot of G/W Company, Faeries (its medium in this matchup), or Bogles then it is very good, otherwise its just okay at best and at worst you will never touch it. All three of those matchups are winnable without The Scorn so unless you expect to face them a lot I would prioritize a different matchup that you are maybe less confident in or you expect to see more of.
P.S. Patrician's Scorn looks great in foil by the way.
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