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Hushwing Gryff Discussion
1 week ago
I think you could remove some of the creatures and replace them with noncreature cards that have the same or a similar effect and don't cost much money either. For example Torpor Orb instead of Hushwing Gryff, Words of Wind instead of Vedalken Mastermind. You can then use Humility and Cursed Totem to shut down other players' creatures without hindering your own play too much.
The great aspect of Smokestack is that it is not limited to lands and that the counters can become more each turn. It's one turn slower than mana vortex but it's less risky. I played both but have recently replaced the vortex when I stuffed more card draw and counterspells in the deck. I still have Sundial of the Infinite in the deck to end my turn after putting a counter on smokestack...it works with mana vortex too but that one only removes all opponents' lands and leaves other permanents intact.
As for the mass LD, I think the biggest problem with catastrophe is the mana cost. I'd rather play Sunder if you don't have ravages of war because that's an instant! If you play that EOT and in your turn get to play Windfall you got rid of all lands and draw a huge lot of cards as well. I don't use Sunder anymore but rather rely on the constant effect of Mana Breach and Overburden. In your case it could be the land removal you need. Bouncing works a bit against the tapping strategy though...
You see, one change often requires other changes because cards are likely part of a package that has a certain purpose in the deck. The more you remove of such a package the less it makes sense to keep the rest in the deck, especially cards that are not really strong on their own. If you want to keep the tapping strategy I would say you should focus on that and add destruction/sacrifice and not bouncing. My list is about bounce/destruction and prevention of land drops. Unless you use Land Equilibrium (or Ward of Bones as the cheaper option) and have a reliable way to find it in your deck, you shouldn't look too much at the bouncing stuff because they don't go along well with tapping. That's the problem with trying to combine elements of different builds.
1 week ago
@theindigoeffect: I assume your directing this at me.
I'd guess Braids of Fire is for storm, but I don't really see it in any cEDH decks probably because it's too slow.
It depends on my opener, but Sigarda is usually faster than most decks in my meta. I have not really had any issues with wrath effects aside from Cyclonic Rift and Toxic Deluge. I can usually kill at least one player before someone finds an answer. I get that our meta's are different, but I'm pretty confused about the amount of variance you're experiencing. Are you just keeping hands with a bunch of ramp and no action or running out Uril recklessly? The only other major difference that I can think of is that you're only going to run 2 hate effects - Teeg & Abolisher - compared to my 7 (Null Rod, Stony Silence, Hushwing Gryff, Torpor Orb, Gaddock Teeg, Grand Abolisher, and Nevermore). Not only do these slow my opponents down, but also require an answer which now can't be used on Sigarda or her respective auras. You may to consider rebalancing your hate and ramp.
The issue with Serra's Sanctum is that a majority of your enchants are aura's, so the card is dead unless you have an established Uril. I tested Sanctum twice and cut it both times. Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx has worked out much better. It shouldn't be that different for you since your deck is pretty much W/G with a red splash.
Keep in mind that it took me 6 months to get to a point at which Sigarda was consistently performing in my meta. It's all about testing cards and finding what works best. My deck should be a good template, but there will always be meta dependent choices to make. For example, Choke sounds like it would work better than Nevermore for your particular meta since blue is such an issue.
1 week ago
While Bygone Bishop might not be the most efficient card, it did quite the great job (drawing >3, providing a flying body) and I do not like spending an entire turn on Mind's Eye. Furthermore I would much rather be able to crack a few clues in some end step than spend my mana on the opponent's draw step or main phase. If it comes to drawing cards Mind's Eye is the by far superior choice though... I will test that one ...
The deck was missing some sort of utility indeed... I would have to remodel the deck to conveniently fit the tax pieces you mentioned though... The utility pieces I came up with: Sanctum Prelate, Hushwing Gryff, Arcane Lighthouse, Elspeth, Sun's Champion as a boardwipe and wincondtion and Dawn Charm for some further interaction/protection... I will have a look at how well Aura of Silence fares ... It is an overall great card ... Thanks for the input.. I appreciate that.
1 week ago
Oh, and Hulk itself also dodges Torpor Orb and Hushwing Gryff, but it's still not able to assemble a combo through those hate pieces (since Karmic Guide, Fiend Hunter and Leonin Relic-Warder won't work).
1 week ago
It's definitely a very good start. Cards to keep an eye out for:
Spirit of the Labyrinth. This is a must-have for hatebears decks. Halting your opponents from card advantaging you out is insane.
Aura of Silence: Again, tax your opponents. Also has an incredible rider on it.
Lodestone Golem: Big beater? Check. Taxes your opponent? Check.
Leonin Arbiter: Tax your opponents, yet again.
Ethersworn Canonist: Like above, except also beats for 2. A great inclusion.
Samurai of the Pale Curtain: While not as amazing as he used to be, still a beater that hurts graveyard based decks.
Nezumi Graverobber: Okay, stealing creatures from yards, stripping them bare AND beating down? This guy just isn't fair. Also, Faerie Macabre does well, especially if you have to get something out of a yard.
Voidstone Gargoyle: At 5 mana, less important, but he can lock your opponents out of their commander. Or a board wipe. Or really anything.
Acidic Slime: Cheap, good, repeatable, also just generally good. Did I mention that he was good?
Eternal Witness: Semi-expensive rn, but if you have to get something back, accept NO substitutes.
Qasali Pridemage: Me-ow.
Phyrexian Revoker: Legacy staple, also beats for 2.
Dust Elemental: Save 3 dudes, get a beater. All-in-all, a win-win.
Hushwing Gryff: While it does turn off many cards, it also turns off your opponents. Use at your own risk.
Stonecloaker: Just do it.
Oblation: Just do it.
Soul Sculptor: 'Tis but a silly card, and one that really hurts some decks. Very, very badly.
Arena of the Ancients: Opponents relying on legendary creatures? Well fear not, because this turns them all off!
Most of these cards are sub-$2, but they may be somewhat hard to find. Keep an eye out, and your deck will quickly become terrifying.
Also, maybe 5-6 more lands?
3 weeks ago
I love your deck man, I also have a stax atraxa deck Max's Stax Atraxa but mine relies mostly in enchantments. Maybe you can get some ideas from it.
1 month ago
1 month ago
Its not a bad build for a beginner, however there are some cards I personally don't like, in my many times of testing
Ankle Shanker - Its not a BAD card, but if you reanimate, it doesn't trigger his ability, cause he was never declared as an attacker. Otherwise, its an ok card, but a card like Master of Cruelties would be better and provide a game winning play.
Burnished Hart - With a low curve, Sad Robot is better in the long run. Sure this guy gets you lands, but you are better off running more Signets or mana ramp
Ponyback Brigade - I'm not saying its a bad card, but for the mana you are paying, you aren't getting much value. I'd run something with more utility, like Knight-Captain of Eos, which synergizes with the deck but ALSO creates tokens for blocking or helps to fog the field if someone goes wide. Mogg War Marshal, Noosegraf Mob are other inexpensive (money wise) cards that make tokens as well
Rakka Mar - Other than being recurable, this doesn't really provide you much advantage. a 2/2 that makes a 3/1 isn't overly fantastic.
Behind the Scenes - While it is good, there are much better things you can run. The only creature you don't really want dying is Alesha, so focus more on cards that keep her alive or swing in without issues.
Impact Tremors - Less effective than Purphoros, God of the Forge (though a better "budget" card), I don't see alot of "abuse" you get from it. In my version of the deck, I have at least 9 token producers, two of which are on attack only so I get more value from them. I recommend either going more tokens, or focus more on things of yours dying, like Blood Artist, Zulaport Cutthroat and Falkenrath Noble to start draining life from the opponents.
Mana base is what it comes to for a budget deck. Can't really comment on it too much
One thing that shuts down an Alesha/any ETB focused deck, is cards like Torpor Orb and Hushwing Gryff. While these may or may not be in your meta, having the answers to them is key. Wear / Tear, Disenchant are two artifact AND enchantment removal, and inexpensive (money wise), helping you turn off other strategies or things that are hindering your plan or can slow down people.
Personally I'd remove Mardu Banner, and instead include Fellwar Stone, if nothing else. This gives you another signet like effect, and is low enough CMC to help you get to where you need to go. Non-budget I'd get a Chromatic Lantern as an upgrade
Cards I'd consider adding:
Sadistic Hypnotist/Mind Slash - Both of these cards, while can only be used at sorcery speed, can help to disrupt players hands and can help to take them off of cards, without overly affecting your board, depending on whats going on.
Mindless Automaton - Personally I like card draw guys you can use more than once. Mindless Automaton can fuel discard effects, while also adding to the card draw. Even if you reanimate him, he gets blocked, you get to draw a card. Other card draw effects I'd consider are Phyrexian Arena, Greed, Smuggler's Copter ect.
Open the Armory/Steelshaper's Gift - Both help you to get much needed equipment out. Non budget version would be Enlightened Tutor, Stoneforge Mystic ect. Tutors are very much needed to get cards you need, but with enough card draw you can easily offset the loss of "I need X Card" to "I can draw multiple cards and dig into it", or use Viscera Seer to begin scrying to it.
As noted, the deck seems fine as a whole, but there are some cards I'd change for more consistency. I will link my deck below for reference. I personally really like my current build, and just need to work on tweaking it as I try new things and see what works and what doesn't. Hope this helps!