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Memory Erosion Discussion
1 week ago
shirouu- First, thank you for the uovote and thanks for considering my deck for a comeback!
Yeah, the "No" factor of this deck makes it pretty aggravating to play.
The real wallet sluggers here are:
Mesmeric Orb- These are nearly 40% of the deck's cost. Unfortunately, also nearly indespensible to the deck's mechanics. Doing so much of the heavy lifting, I'm afraid there isn't any comparable replacement for their long-game potency.
Oboro, Palace in the Clouds- this isn't necessary to the deck. In fact, it's in this list, but I don't actually have one for it in paper. My one copy is in my Esper Salt Mill. This list does quite well without it. You could use Halimar Depths for some deck fixing, and it would work with Deprive and Hedron Crab in a defensive position but still add fuel to your wincon.
Thing in the Ice Flip- This is still in testing. With only 2 in the deck, it's not a crucial card. More of a backup wincon should I face a go-wide token or weenie deck. You could do AEtherize, or fill in with one more of each Unsummon and Vapor Snag. I've even been considering Boomerang, so I can return their lands as well.
On the low end of pricing, these cards are over 50% of the deck's cost. I'm not sure how competitive your meta is, but this will still be annoying in any capacity. If you're playing more casually, you can always do a casual mill like Bigger Bluer Eraserer, this deck features 2 cards, not legal in Modern: Whirlpool Rider and Accumulated Knowledge.
The other option to making this more effective with a budget, would be to add some more tempo. Mana Leaks, or other cheap disruption spells would simply buy you time to finish the job without the Orbs.
Hope this helps!! And I sincerely hope you get to use this and win with it. It's a lot of fun if you really like being the troll at the table!
Any more questions, or I can help, let me know!!
1 month ago
1 month ago
We like what you've done here; looks fun to play! We have some ideas for you that we hope will make your deck even more fun:
- We would exchange some of the land in this deck for ramp options. Spells like Rampant Growth, Nature's Lore, Cultivate or Kodama's Reach would all work well in that regard. Burgeoning and if you can afford it, Exploration are even better.
- Hermit Druid would be perfect in this deck as it allows you to fill up your graveyard while at the same time allow you to ramp. In this regard, Life from the Loam is even better, but it's also more expensive.
- Royal Assassin seems to fit right in with the overall theme of the deck.
- We would add some cards that would allow you to profit from the death of creatures in the form of drawing more cards. Our picks for that would be cards like Grim Haruspex, Harvester of Souls and Deathreap Ritual. Overall, you could also use cards like Underworld Connections or the more expensive Phyrexian Arena/Rhystic Study to draw more cards. Up to you :)
Cards from your current selection that we would cut to make room:
- Panglacial Wurm/Vorosh, the Hunter/Primeval Protector; powerful for sure, but each is very expensive to cast and not needed for your overall strategy;
- Memory Erosion; nice card but would be more at home in a mill-deck, furthermore you do not have many cards in this deck that profit from what's in your opponent's graveyard to fully utilize this card.
We hope this has helped you some. Please let us know! And if you feel like you have the time/inclination, we would love your feedback on our EDH decks. Have fun with this deck (and MTG overall)!
With kind regards,
Mrs. & Mr. NV_1980
2 months ago
I don't normally comment but I see someone else also loves the idea of edh mill :)
IMO in commander spells that are targeted like Fraying Sanity or Curse of the Bloody Tome are worse than global effects like Memory Erosion. It doesn't matter if it's 1v1 commander, but anything in a group setting makes them worse. Stuff like Hedron Crab and Curse of the Bloody Tome can too slow for 100 card decks. You're not guaranteed to play them early and by the time you mill 10 or 20 cards they'll have their commander and some other nonsense to just end the game. Some people play Kozilek, Butcher of Truth so milling them out is impossible without Leyline of the Void
Some cards which might help are Ashen Powder Whispering Madness Soul Manipulation Dissipation Field Quest for Ancient Secrets Avatar of Woe Body Double Consuming Aberration Guiltfeeder Nighthowler Sepulchral Primordial Wrexial, the Risen Deep Entreat the Dead Wight of Precinct Six
3 months ago
Welcome to Tapped Out!
- From what I gather is that you're going for a mill intensive B/U(Dimir) deck?
- How cheap(budget) are we talking about?
Thought Scour | Tome Scour | Horrifying Revelation | Hedron Crab | Fraying Sanity | Drowner Initiate | Dimir Charm | Dream Twist | Compelling Argument | Cathartic Adept | Breaking // Entering | Jace's Erasure | Memory Erosion | Memory Sluice | Mind Funeral | Nemesis of Reason
These are all under $10, I would also invest in having 3 to 4 copies of a number of these.
4 months ago
Joe9 You brought up a lot of really good ideas. I will agree that tutors are lacking a bit in this deck and I tried to even it out with card draw instead. I really like Final Parting because a card I am working on putting into the deck is Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. This card probably won't see much play in the deck itself, but the extra ability to shuffle my graveyard into my library when it is played can help when I mill myself by milling others or if they get control of my creatures and mill me. It also will partner well with Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger which I'm going to incorporate into my deck because of how well it works with the mill strategy. For untapping my creatures, I actually have Paradox Engine. This let's me untap all nonland permanents when I play a spell. Intruder Alarm is one I'm starting to lean towards putting in as well. This was a card I turned down when making this deck but now that I've played it more I can see how this would help immensely where my creatures can mill opponents. Whenever a creature is played, I can use the ability while the spell is on the stack, then untap my creatures right away. I'll have to be weary about this because it untaps my opponents creatures, but they are focused on combat when I am not. Another card that I am considering putting into the deck is Laboratory Maniac. This will be my backup card depending on the decks that my opponents are running. If they have too many responses to my mill effects, then I can instead mill myself to win the game. I do like the idea of using Nightveil Specter too. There are cards similar to this one, but many of them require you to play the exiled cards in the same turn which can be a waste. I also run Chromatic Lantern so cards with different colors won't be a problem for it either. I was also wanting to add more cards as punishment and protection type of cards so I think that Memory Erosion will be a good addition for this category. Thanks for your opinions! You gave me a lot of good ideas, and I'll have to change the deck around with the different ideas I've received but I think it will make it a lot better!
4 months ago
I forgot to add Memory Erosion to my previous list. It's a nice tax for your opponents spells. It only mills 2 cards at a time, but that adds up quickly when players are dumping mana into spells.
4 months ago
Hedron Crab, and Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger are good mill creatures. Startled Awake Flip is a decent mill card if you can keep bringing it back. Siren of the Silent Song is good too, a discard and straight mill can hurt.
Perplex is a decent Counterspell, or a mill card. Mind Sculpt is just amazing! Increasing Confusion is decent as well. Psychic Spiral brings back all those mill cards, while milling your opponents in the process! Patient Rebuilding is recurrent mill, while also moving you forward.
Hope I was of some help! (And that I didn't go too overboard).