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Triton Shorestalker Discussion
1 month ago
Snacrifice I will have to think about Lightning Greaves again. I usually include it or the boots mostly with a view to protecting my commander, but I often forget about the haste, and it certainly is valuable to accelerate attacking with Yuriko. Though I can usually get her out turn two with a one-drop on turn one, it is definitely helpful to equip it to my evasive creatures if I have to recast them in my first main phase after using them with ninjutsu the turn before.
I did have both Tormented Soul and Cloud of Faeries in the deck previously but they got cut when I winnowed down my enabler force. While Cloud of Faeries is free when you cast it on turn you still have to tap the mana, and thus it is harder to recast in the second main after using ninjutsu, though I do like it from ramp in some of my blink decks. You do make a valid point about Tormented Soul giving me better color-fixing in my enabler group, so I will have to consider swapping it back in for either Slither Blade , Mist-Cloaked Herald , or Triton Shorestalker , though the creepy art will probably save the latter. I'm aware of Gudul Lurker but have generally been happy with only eight enablers.
Thanks for the suggestions!
3 months ago
I’ve always felt that the Ninja tribe benefit from some way to become unblockable to continue gaining value from their abilities. Thassa, God of the Sea comes to mind, as well as cheap auras like Aether Tunnel and Aqueous Form .
3 months ago
Budget rogues is a sweet brew - I ran it a long while back. I really reccomend running as many 1 drop rogues as you can - I was running up to 12, alongside card draw to keep them going, preferring unblockables as you can to take advantage of blackguard/thought thief and prowl. The higher up the mana curve you go, the more expensive the list gets as it turns into the faerie/ninja style lists.
Frogtosser is a fun card, but without a second cheap cost reduction spell, its probably better just to play some cheaper cmc rogues, unless you plan to ramp into a particularly key card.
Most of the below cards are really cheap, and you should be able to test different kinds of shells using them. You can mess around with mostly blue shells and add some negates, or mostly black and add push - but the best thing about rogue decks is that so long as you keep switching it up your opponents won't know exactly what they are facing, and will have to play accordingly.
Morsel Theft is a lightning helix at the face that draws a card when you are hitting your opponent, but bad without a board state.
Key artifact meta - Thieving Skydiver
'sorta' card advantage options
Noggin Whack / Acquisitions Expert a solid 'no hand for you' plan does a lot to keep your rogues on the battlefield. If sieze/inq is out of budget, Bribery or plain old Duress variants can still get you there.
Cards to avoid (traps)
Disciple of Deceit - the card disadvantage and tap/untap on it is punishing. Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive relevant rogues already evasive Thieves' Fortune - if you are looking for answers its likely they've already stopped you hitting them in the face.
Secondly, Pyre of Heroes is an interesting option to turn 1 drops into 2 drops, letting you have more consistent access to lords like soaring or blackguard. It also dodges counterspells like vial, even if its not at instant speed and doesn't help after a wrath. Its worth testing with some proxies to see how it matches you against the decks you are likely to play, as artifact removal is common (but getting them to sideboard it in is also good). Glasspool Mimic Flip is notable in this case as a way to search out a clone of a lord without taking up a full creature slot, while Zulaport Cutthroat offers an option to drain out an opponent (even if it doesn't trigger prowl).
I hope this helps - have fun brewing!
3 months ago
Derevi is a great choice for the general. The strategy I would go for personally when it comes to Derevi is low-cost evasive creatures, Coastal Piracy effects, and land auras like Fertile Ground . The little dudes hit to draw you cards and untap your lands. This leads to snowballing damage as you are able to play more small doods, leading to exponentially more damage, draw power, and mana each turn.
Here are some other cards that would fit with such a strategy: Signal Pest , Topplegeist , Bident of Thassa , Reconnaissance , Ohran Frostfang , Edric, Spymaster of Trest , True Conviction , Wild Growth , Wolfwillow Haven , Soltari Foot Soldier , Gudul Lurker , Mist-Cloaked Herald , Slither Blade , Triton Shorestalker
4 months ago
You have 11 taplands. 11. When playing cEDH, the most you have is 1. Ever. Yavimaya Coast , Botanical Sanctum , Exotic Orchard , Sungrass Prairie , Skycloud Expanse , Sunpetal Grove , Glacial Fortress , Hinterland Harbor , Razorverge Thicket , Seachrome Coast , Spire of Industry . You'll have to spend a little more, but it's only like $30. And without that, you're never gonna win at a cEDH table.
You're also not running Spell Pierce , Autumn's Veil , Dovin's Veto , Swords to Plowshares , Pongify , Rapid Hybridization , Path to Exile , Dispel , Mystical Dispute , Delay . Those are pretty much necessary. Also, Neoform , Eldritch Evolution , Eladamri's Call .
Most of your combos are . . . not cEDH viable. They require you to run taplands AND bad ramp cards and they require you to have several pieces on top of just needing several cards that aren't good outside the combo.
Now, is this a solid deck that will do well in moderately tuned games? Definitely. But it isn't competitive. And it is totally possible to make a competitive deck without going over $200, you just lose some of the speed and have to build your deck a bit differently to stay in the game.
6 months ago
Have you considered Invisible Stalker? It's got protection built in and it is also unblockable. Triton Shorestalker can also be pretty good additional copies of Slither Blade if you want to double up. Looter il-Kor is practically unblockable and also provides some card filtering. If you do go this route you could also add in Cloak and Dagger because it auto equips. Also, not sure if Paranoid Delusions quite fits this deck, since it appears you could probably win through damage so much faster than milling. Not counting Trepanation Blade since it does both damage and mill. Hope this helps.
11 months ago
Good job making sure your combo has redundancy, although some picks seem better than others. I'd definitely want all 4 Kor Duelist since it synergizes so well with the Hammer. I'd even consider something like Simian Spirit Guide to let you win on turn 2. Triton Shorestalker is totally fine, but something like Invisible Stalker could provide the protection that decks like this often need against removal. I think the weak links are Trophy Mage since it only fetches Squire (which is itself only a backup to Outfitter), and Followed Footsteps as the slowest card in the deck. I didn't even know Colossus Hammer existed, so thanks for bringing it to my attention!
1 year ago
Bringing down the average CMC or upping the levels of interaction will do a lot;
Jade Bearer, Kumena's Speaker, Brineborn Cutthroat, Harbinger of the Tides, Merfolk Trickster Mistcaller, Mist-Cloaked Herald/Triton Shorestalker, River Sneak, Silvergill Adept and Merfolk Skydiver will all let you operate at a lower CMC.
Lowering the curve also means you can run Neoform in place of evolution.
Traditionally merfolk is a tempo list using creatures that delay your opponent, then unblockability (previously islandwalk/flood effects) to finish them off. Its one of the few lists where a bounce effect is often just as effective as a kill spell. Its place in modern was defined by Blood Moon reslience from an all-island manabase combined with land disruption in Aquitect's Will, but that is not relevant in pioneer, so you will need to experiment to find a new nieche. It might be able to emulate affinity with ozolith support, with some luck and a favourable meta.