Ramos, Dragon Engine


Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Custom Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Commander 2017 (C17) Rare

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Ramos, Dragon Engine

Legendary Artifact Creature — Dragon


Whenever you cast a spell, put a +1/+1 counter on Ramos, Dragon Engine for each of that spell's colors.

Remove five +1/+1 counters from Ramos: Add WWUUBBRRGG to your mana pool. Activate this ability only once each turn.

Ramos, Dragon Engine Discussion

discipleofgary73 on I Kenrith you by my side

1 week ago

Yo! Thran Quarry , Reflecting Pool , Opal Palace , Holdout Settlement , and/or Unknown Shores instead of the 3c enter tapped lands? Ramos, Dragon Engine could be a nice color fix too, especially if you wanted to go for a way to boost counters.

Siren's Call and Alpha Brawl could be funny. I seem to remember a cheaper version of Insurrection, but I can't think of it right now.

The "gift" destruction cards could be neat, flavor wise: Generous Gift , Pongify , Rapid Hybridization , Curse of the Swine , Beast Within , Terastodon , and even Swan Song .

Not sure Debt to the Deathless is doing much, but I'm probably missing something.

Other group-hug cards to consider Spurnmage Advocate , Skyscribing , Vision Skeins , Trade Secrets , Crescendo of War , and the good ol' Vow enchantment cards.

BMHKain on Mana Identiy Color Personality Traits ...

1 week ago

With Bumps gone, I just feel this deserves an Update...

I am at a status this needs a Part 3. But I have to ask before doing so (SPOILER ALERT: Part 3 WILL Happen no matter one; & it includes the Ravnican Comparisons (Even after WAR.), & what we got so far for Color Identity confirmation.): are you guys even interested anymore? I actually still am. I just need your help is all. Thanks for helping so far. & Caerwyn, I can completely understand the HUGE amount of Complications from 3+ Colors. I'm just trying to do 5 Personality Traits entirely for each Color Identity & nothing more/less. I just need help more than ever now... Thanks for all this. I just want more Traits, & less complications of Color Identity issues...

Thanks for all the help thus far. I didn't think we'd make to this far...

Oh, & if Ramos, Dragon Engine , Najeela, the Blade-Blossom , Jodah, Archmage Eternal (Who is technically /Jeskai.), General Tazri , Morophon, the Boundless , Golos, Tireless Pilgrim , Sisay, Weatherlight Captain , & now, Kenrith, the Returned King can all count as , nearly more than all other true 5 Colors, I really need more help than ever to complete this campaign. Who still wants to do this? (SPOILER ALERT: It won't matter if you say no... Eheheh...)

Rorolith on Lets All Build An EDH Deck Together

2 weeks ago

wow! definitely going to try this out. Although you should probably run 4x Ramos, Dragon Engine if you write down you can have 4 of these at the same time on the card with a pen, nobody will find out.

BMHKain on I thought about it. I'll ...

1 month ago

(CAUTION: A Huge List of CMDRS dead ahead. If you can't comply, remember that I apologized for the huge wall.)

Well, I was just told how to do a Folder, but to choose what for decks is another thing entirely. Especially if such decks are either:

A: What Everyone Plays B: Are good, but have since been outdated by a year C: Are Tribal Leaders in a Specific Sense (No Morophon, the Boundless please.) D: Not Underdog CMDRs. E: Other.

Let's Just assume we use that cEDH Deck Tier List One-by-One; but w/ a new rule for Playtesting such decks so none of the cEDH Decks win out of overall ratios ~100% of the time; CHANNELFIREBALL-style. That said, From using the Tier List, I require the following CMDR Decks to not have cEDH Level Power, but are these:

Tier 0:

Thrasios, Triton Hero & Tymna the Weaver Partners

Tier 1:

Kess, Dissident Mage

Kraum, Ludevic's Opus

Najeela, the Blade-Blossom

The First Sliver (Not as a Sliver Tribe Leader)

The Gitrog Monster

Urza, Lord High Artificer

Vial Smasher the Fierce

Yisan, the Wanderer Bard

Zur the Enchanter

(NOTE: Unknown if Kraum, Ludevic's Opus & Vial Smasher the Fierce need to be Parters to be of this level.)

Tier 2:

Animar, Soul of Elements (Morph Decks not allowed.)

Baral, Chief of Compliance (Get your Counterspells Ready!)

Brago, King Eternal

Breya, Etherium Shaper

Circu, Dimir Lobotomist

Derevi, Empyrial Tactician

Edric, Spymaster of Trest

General Tazri (Mandatory Ally Tribe Leader)

Ghave, Guru of Spores

God-Eternal Kefnet

Godo, Bandit Warlord

Golos, Tireless Pilgrim

Grand Arbiter Augustin IV

Jace, Vryn's Prodigy  Flip

Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge

Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain

Kykar, Wind's Fury

Meren of Clan Nel Toth

Mizzix of the Izmagnus

Momir Vig, Simic Visionary

Narset, Enlightened Master

Niv-Mizzet, Parun

Niv-Mizzet Reborn

Oona, Queen of the Fae

Prime Speaker Vannifar

Prossh, Skyraider of Kher

Ramos, Dragon Engine

Rashmi, Eternities Crafter

Scion of the Ur-Dragon (Possible Dragon Tribe Leader)

Selvala, Heart of the Wilds

Sidisi, Brood Tyrant

Sidisi, Undead Vizier

Sisay, Weatherlight Captain

Taigam, Ojutai Master

Tana, the Bloodsower

Tasigur, the Golden Fang

Teferi, Temporal Archmage

The Mimeoplasm

Varolz, the Scar-Striped

Xantcha, Sleeper Agent

Yarok, the Desecrated

Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder

Tier 3: WIP

But, yeah, you get the picture, right? Since I can't find such decks on my own to put in such a folder for decks worth testing against your own. Rules are as follows though:

  1. It needs to be up to date, prior to the Iona, Shield of Emeria & Paradox Engine bans & Painter's Servant unbanning/CMDR 2019's release; or just not include any of those at all.

  2. Each deck must not be of cEDH-level power; just imagine how much hell I'd have to playthrough against something just to beat a Thrasios/Tymna Partners deck just to have my claim on this notion nullified.

  3. Decks must include CMDRs that are Popular, were Popular as well as Tribal Decks w/ Good Tribe Leaders (For example: The First Sliver & Sliver Queen do not fit this category where Sliver Overlord does fit the Sliver Tribe Leadership. Scion of the Ur-Dragon & The Ur-Dragon can both count as Dragon Tribe CMDRs. Atraxa, Praetors' Voice is actually a bad CMDR to use in Superfriends, but Shines in all Counter Life. Make good use of that instead of making a 4< Color Walkers Deck. The rulings go on...)

I know this is too much for now, but I'm making a folder for Playtesting w/ decks as everyone kept telling me to do so; now I want to hold my end of the Bargain. But I seriously need help from you to do this. If you can find any decks here to add to such a Folder, put it on the comments below.

(& no, It's not like it's a personal thing! Anyone is allowed to use it when it's finished!)

Rex2905 on Jodah Eldrazi

1 month ago

finallegend I'd looked into Mycosynth Lattice before I added Mystic Forge but didn't even consider the "makes all cards not on the battlefield...colorless" bit, and it seems like awesome synergy, in addition to the obvious mana conversion. I think I'll definitely look into getting one.

Ramos, Dragon Engine was also considered previously but I'm cautious about running it as it essentially serves as mid to late game ramp which I'm cautious about. My main strategy is to have Jodah, Archmage Eternal before or on turn 4, and then having WUBURG the next turn with Morophon, the Boundless and/or a big Eldrazi ready to go. These cards seem like they would be a little slower than I'm looking for, as Ramos doesn't have much use outside of being a beat stick if I have Morophon/Jodah online the turn before I could cast Ramos, as his mana gaining ability would serve little purpose. Additionally, even without my combo online first, Ramos would be slow as my goal without Morophon would be pumping out 1-2 big Eldrazi per turn, so it would be approximately 3-5 turns before his ability would likely pay off for me, and that's still very dependent on other factors.

Crystalline Crawler is a similar case. Best case scenario has me ramping it out on turn 3 for 4 colors, that gets me Jodah and, of the 10 cards I will have seen at that point, approximately 3-4 would need to be mana sources and 1 would need to be the Crawler, meaning, at most, I'd have 5-6 cards that I would have approximately 5 mana to cast, but unlikely of 5 colors (assuming I hit my land drop). I also dislike the time it would take to get use out of it a second time via it's own ability. Essentially, it seems solid, but it requires resources I think are better spent on other cards. However, I may still play around with it a bit in testing.

finallegend on Jodah Eldrazi

1 month ago

Ramos, Dragon Engine could work as a possible additional combo with Jodah. This would allow you to play 5 spells and get 2 free, then you only would need 3 more spells for the next two free spells. Another possibility would be Crystalline Crawler . It could work as a replenishing mana rock. One final suggestion that I can think of is Mycosynth Lattice . This one can work as a mana converter.

rdean14 on Card creation challenge

1 month ago

The latter is quite applicable for Ramos, Dragon Engine .

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