Goblin King

Creature — Goblin

Other Goblin creatures get +1/+1 and have mountainwalk. (They can't be blocked as long as defending player controls a Mountain.)

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Big Apple Highlander	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Freeform	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Oldschool 93/94	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
PreDH	Legal
Premodern	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (48)

2000AD on "Fanghorn Forest": Bark at the Moon!

1 week ago

Balaam__ First of all, I greatly appreciate you for stopping by and reaching out. Thanks! Second, I will address the issue of Orcish Oriflamme - the reason the copy you linked shows up as {1}{R} is because the version you linked appears to be from Alpha, and Alpha had a couple of printing errors showing incorrect information, one of the more famous examples being Elvish Archers (Power/Toughness was printed at 1/2 in Alpha as opposed to the 2/1 it's been in every other edition starting with Beta). Oriflamme was misprinted similarly in Alpha, with a casting cost showing as {1}{R}, but in Beta Edition and going forward, the casting cost has been {3}{R}. I am pretty sure that even if you have one of these misprinted cards, you still have to pay the most recent casting cost.

Next question: "Why?"

Ok, so this is a great question! Thanks for asking. In the 93/94 Oldschool format, a format that includes the following sets:

Alpha Beta Unlimited Collector’s Edition (CE) International Collector’s Edition (IE) Arabian Nights Antiquities Revised Legends The Dark Fallen Empires

Antiquities only has like, 7 or 8 colored cards in each color for the entire set, the rest of it is 100% artifacts and not all of them are good - in fact, there is a LOT of chaff there with a few notable exceptions.

This is for "Atlantic" rules - "Swedish" deckbuilding rules (which I tend to follow) cut off just after The Dark, with no Fallen Empires allowed. That said, enchantments that give buffs in the format are rather few and far between - and when they can be found, they are typically quite specific insofar as the color they will give a bonus to (for example Crusade, or Lord of Atlantis/Sunken City). Wherein it relates to {R}, Goblins have Goblin Shrine, as well as Goblin King of which I play both in a 93/94 Goblin deck I call "Burning Man" (just haven't made public yet). Orc General from The Dark hands out some buffs, but only for Orcs, and only in exchange for sacrificing an Orc/Goblin to receive it. Orcish Oriflamme is somewhat of a rarity or a standout in this department because it buffs every single attacking creature under my control - regardless of type. I agree with you in RE: casting cost being a tad on the high side, but I am down to play it for awhile to see how it goes due to rocking 4 Llanowar Elves and 3 Untamed Wilds - I feel like my ramp is far enough up to snuff for me to "get away" with dedicating one card slot to an enchantment costing {3}{R}, especially since there are only 3 copies to contend with. As well - I understand the concern over the conditional power buff - that the creatures who receive it must be attacking - but this is mainly to swarm the opponent with 6-8 1/1 Lands, animated with Living Lands, all swinging across at 2/1 P/T the moment they're animated by Living Lands. This is in addition to any other creatures I happen to be able to swing with at the time, and the hope is other effects (such as Earthquake) can seal the finish once the opponent's life total has been whittled down far enough.

{R} also has Gauntlet of Might, but that is one of those cards that even the cheapest copy (2ED) is too far out of my budget at present (several hundred dollars for copies marked "played"). Disharmony (LEG) is another one I'd use (albeit this is creature theft, not creature buff), and the budgetary concern there isn't AS bad - but she's still a good $55-$60+, and that's an amount of money that would get me 30-40 cards that were things I need (like basic lands) to put a deck together. So, maybe someday - but right now leaving those on the table just allows my money to farther transaction-for-transaction. Power Surge is a cheapie that can get a lot of damage in if the opponent just doesn't have anything to do, but is also conditional...and not to mention CHEESY lol.

When it came to the whole idea that the playing of Living Lands was supposed to be the big ol' KILLSHOT, the idea of having nothing that provided beef did not appeal to me, whether it was conditional or not. Oriflamme was dirt cheap on TCG Player (35 cents-50 cents), so for now, my opinion is Oriflamme gives a significant power advantage when multiple creatures get room to breathe. They did so long for this one thing. - it's ok if you don't agree, and right now where I'm at it I will absolutely take what you've said into consideration!

bkrugle on Just another RDW

7 months ago

I know... I was running red back when Goblin King was standard. And when Throne of Eldraine released I ran red. This is just today's red unfortunately.

RinceRaven on krenko

3 years ago

Alright alright so I got asked to give a bunch of suggestions so here we go. Hoo boy. Gonna try to keep most suggestions low on budget but will include the best slightly expensive cards. Should also mention I got a lot of things I know from this primer, cheers. https://deckstats.net/decks/82803/752805-competitive-krenko/en

First the draw pieces you missed: Rundvelt Hordemaster, Dark-Dweller Oracle, Skullclamp, Subira, Tulzidi Caravanner, Reforge the Soul, Conspicuous Snoop, You Find Some Prisoners. The only actual good ones you got in this draft are Idol of Oblivion and Wheel of Misfortune imo, though most are servicable.

Tutors: these beauties can find your best wincons or draw pieces or whatever else you might need most of the time. Goblin Engineer, Goblin Matron, Goblin Recruiter. And are surprisingly affordable.

Next up ramp: Mana doublers are too slow for a deck as fast as Krenko, and you don't have the card draw to support such cards in mono-red. Not really. Also with the 4 mana commander having 2 mana ramp becomes much, much more valued. Cheering Fanatic, Liquimetal Torque, Generator Servant, Wily Goblin, Infernal Plunge, Fire Diamond (Yes I know, I think it's fine here).

Haste: Giving Krenko (and his tokens) haste literally puts you a turn ahead over not having it. Crashing Drawbridge, Ashling's Prerogative (Even gives tokens haste too), Generator Servant (multipurpose? Whoa), Goblin Chieftain, Goblin Motivator, Lightning Greaves, Mass Hysteria, Thousand-Year Elixir (tad pricey but repeatable Krenko seems good) Bloodlust Inciter.

Wincons: gotta end the game somehow. Combo's are good: Breath of Fury, Staff of Domination, Thornbite Staff, Umbral Mantle are the best combo lines for Krenko afaik. If not/next to combo, we have good old damage: Coat of Arms, Eldrazi Monument, Impact Tremors, Obelisk of Urd, Skirk Fire Marshal, Purphoros, God of the Forge, Shared Animosity, Devilish Valet, Quest for the Goblin Lord, Throne of the God-Pharaoh.

If we let our opponents do whatever they want we'll have trouble winning, even with our speed. Luckily red has quite some options. Don't forget Liquimetal Torque can turn things into artifacts so we can shoot them easier. Abrade, Chaos Warp, Gempalm Incinerator (great removal spell, terrible creature), Goblin Assassin (wipes the floor with creature decks), Goblin Bombardment, Goblin Cratermaker, Goblin Sharpshooter, Goblin Trashmaster, Goblin Welder (hits opponents too), Mogg Salvage, Pashalik Mons, Skirk Fire Marshal (your board survives this with Coat of Arms or Eldrazi Monument), Furystoke Giant, Shattering Spree, better than Vandalblast, Wild Magic Surge.

Best Utility Lands: Great Furnace, Buried Ruin, Path of Ancestry, Castle Embereth.

I'm tired and my brain is dying so here's a dump of things I forgot or for didn't have a place to mentioned yet :)

Heirloom Blade, Chandra, Torch of Defiance, Blood Moon, Brash Taunter, Impulsive Pilferer, Jeska's Will, Goblin Chirurgeon, Goblin Sledder, Mogg Raider, Pyroblast, Red Elemental Blast, Tibalt's Trickery, Mogg War Marshal, Legion Loyalist, Legion Warboss, Brash Taunter, Fable of the Mirror-Breaker  ^Flip, Hobgoblin Bandit Lord, Muxus, Goblin Grandee (idk at what math this is good I'm sure someone did it already somewhere on the internet), Siege-Gang Commander, Zo-Zu the Punisher, Goblin Ringleader, Goblin Piledriver, Arms Dealer, Grotag Night-Runner, Goblin King (get 5th or 6th edition art btw).

Good luck on figuring things out. I'm off to bed

Bulldawg1310 on

3 years ago

Nathanael97 goal here isnt necessarily to win a gp or anything serious. its supposed to be a quick semi go wide strategy, beat down with creatures if we can, if not we have our play set of lightning bolts, and then goblin grenades to finish the job. weve got Goblin King's to help if our opponent is playing with mountains. if they arent we have blood moon to help facilitate unblockable gobbies. as i stated above worse case scenario we bolt face and goblin grenade tokens from rabblemaster or really anything else late to try and close out the game.

i havent actually built this list yet i put it up mostly as a reference for when i get around to building a goblins tribal deck. i am familiar with that snoop combo, but i am an AWFUL combo player and dont think id be able to pull that one off with any kind of consistency. i appreciate your feedback and thanks for lookin at the list!

Froggie420 on krenkos big flood

3 years ago

It looks like you have a couple extra Impact Tremors and Purphoros, God of the Forge in here. I also think you might be running a little heavy on land and could likely cut a few Mountains (My goblins run 34 total lands). Luckily, I have a few replacement cards to swap those out with!

Goblin decks are awesome because you can get wide with a ton of goblin tokens that all swing for enormous damage.

Some things to create more tokens that fit your budget might be Empty the Warrens, Dragon Fodder, or Goblin Instigator.

Ideas to make your goblins more powerful could include Goblin Bushwhacker, Goblin King (fantastic if you spend the money on Blood Moon as well), Goblin Trashmaster, and Goblin Warchief and Goblin Chieftain to give haste.

Goblins also have some fun bombs like Goblin War Strike, Mob Justice, or Massive Raid to deal massive damage to your opponent's face.

One other thing to consider is drawing more cards. Goblins get spammed out quickly, and you always need more goblins. For a little bit of money, Skullclamp fits very well with goblins and can give you a little boost.

Anyways, there's lots of possibilities of things to add with goblins! Hope these ideas helped some

Ouroboros_47 on Red Goblins - Modern

4 years ago

Blood Moon + Goblin King works great. Conspicuous Snoop is also good.

TheVectornaut on Mike's Goblinoid Attack Deck

4 years ago

Normally in a goblin deck, I'd just suggest running my lords like Goblin King , Goblin Chieftain , etc., and adding more copies of goodstuff like Goblin Grenade and Goblin Chainwhirler . However, to preserve the multiple tribe theme, I think focusing on warrior synergy would be the best idea. A good percentage of your creatures are already warriors and Blood-Chin Fanatic looks like one of the stronger cards in the deck.

Base Camp , Blood-Chin Rager , Kargan Intimidator , Boldwyr Intimidator , Lovisa Coldeyes , Obsidian Battle-Axe , and Raiders' Spoils are some warrior tribal cards in Rakdos, and Chief of the Edge , Chief of the Scale , Arashin Foremost , Herald of Dromoka , Kargan Warleader , and Mardu Woe-Reaper also apply when dipping into Mardu. I know most of these cards are just humans though, so here are some good warriors that fall under the goblinoid umbrella: Bloodmark Mentor , Goblin Bushwhacker , Goblin Cratermaker , Goblin Piledriver , Goblin Rabblemaster , Goblin Trashmaster , Krenko, Mob Boss , Pashalik Mons , Reckless Bushwhacker , Battle Brawler , Brutal Hordechief , Zurgo Bellstriker , Kazuul's Toll Collector , Ogre Battledriver , and Furystoke Giant . Which of these cards is best definitely depends on what your primary strategy is.

Anyway, good luck with your deck!

Liquidbeaver on Ib Halfheart, Goblin Sac-tician [PRIMER]

5 years ago

paytongamer: In the last several revisions of the deck since I've added Goblin War Drums the Menace hasn't really been impactful because I am winning through something else that uses the Goblins as fuel. Along the same lines I barely get to use Goblin King's evasion, but he has a higher impact potential. It's rare that the damage being dealt by an unblocked Goblin is actually killing someone, it's more likely the Impact Tremors, Raid Bombardment, or Repercussion is doing it.

This is even more the case now with the recent additions of Skirk Fire Marshal, Valakut Exploration, and Massive Raid. I think if the deck focused more on Krenko, big mana with Goblin Warrens, and prioritized combat step damage, then Goblin War Drums becomes much more impactful. That has definitely been this deck at multiple times since I first built it, which just goes to show how flexible Ib is that you can tailor the deck to focus on so many different styles of play.

DBCooper: Shenanigans is good, especially because it can be tutored like any Goblin creature can, and can be freecast off of everything except Muxus, but I think the larger the table gets the less effective Shenanigans is. The same deck I was describing to paytongamer would do well with Shenanigans, a deck that just makes an obscene amount of tokens so it doesn't really matter than you are only hitting one player at a time because you have 250 Goblins to feed into it.