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|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
Creature — Giant Warrior
When Furystoke Giant enters the battlefield, other creatures you control gain "Tap: This creature deals 2 damage to target creature or player" until end of turn.
Persist (When this creature is put into a graveyard from play, if it had no -1/-1 counters on it, return it to play under its owner's control with a -1/-1 counter on it.)
RinceRaven on krenko
6 months ago
Alright alright so I got asked to give a bunch of suggestions so here we go. Hoo boy. Gonna try to keep most suggestions low on budget but will include the best slightly expensive cards. Should also mention I got a lot of things I know from this primer, cheers. https://deckstats.net/decks/82803/752805-competitive-krenko/en
First the draw pieces you missed: Rundvelt Hordemaster, Dark-Dweller Oracle, Skullclamp, Subira, Tulzidi Caravanner, Reforge the Soul, Conspicuous Snoop, You Find Some Prisoners. The only actual good ones you got in this draft are Idol of Oblivion and Wheel of Misfortune imo, though most are servicable.
Tutors: these beauties can find your best wincons or draw pieces or whatever else you might need most of the time. Goblin Engineer, Goblin Matron, Goblin Recruiter. And are surprisingly affordable.
Next up ramp: Mana doublers are too slow for a deck as fast as Krenko, and you don't have the card draw to support such cards in mono-red. Not really. Also with the 4 mana commander having 2 mana ramp becomes much, much more valued. Cheering Fanatic, Liquimetal Torque, Generator Servant, Wily Goblin, Infernal Plunge, Fire Diamond (Yes I know, I think it's fine here).
Haste: Giving Krenko (and his tokens) haste literally puts you a turn ahead over not having it. Crashing Drawbridge, Ashling's Prerogative (Even gives tokens haste too), Generator Servant (multipurpose? Whoa), Goblin Chieftain, Goblin Motivator, Lightning Greaves, Mass Hysteria, Thousand-Year Elixir (tad pricey but repeatable Krenko seems good) Bloodlust Inciter.
Wincons: gotta end the game somehow. Combo's are good: Breath of Fury, Staff of Domination, Thornbite Staff, Umbral Mantle are the best combo lines for Krenko afaik. If not/next to combo, we have good old damage: Coat of Arms, Eldrazi Monument, Impact Tremors, Obelisk of Urd, Skirk Fire Marshal, Purphoros, God of the Forge, Shared Animosity, Devilish Valet, Quest for the Goblin Lord, Throne of the God-Pharaoh.
If we let our opponents do whatever they want we'll have trouble winning, even with our speed. Luckily red has quite some options. Don't forget Liquimetal Torque can turn things into artifacts so we can shoot them easier. Abrade, Chaos Warp, Gempalm Incinerator (great removal spell, terrible creature), Goblin Assassin (wipes the floor with creature decks), Goblin Bombardment, Goblin Cratermaker, Goblin Sharpshooter, Goblin Trashmaster, Goblin Welder (hits opponents too), Mogg Salvage, Pashalik Mons, Skirk Fire Marshal (your board survives this with Coat of Arms or Eldrazi Monument), Furystoke Giant, Shattering Spree, better than Vandalblast, Wild Magic Surge.
Best Utility Lands: Great Furnace, Buried Ruin, Path of Ancestry, Castle Embereth.
I'm tired and my brain is dying so here's a dump of things I forgot or for didn't have a place to mentioned yet :)
Heirloom Blade, Chandra, Torch of Defiance, Blood Moon, Brash Taunter, Impulsive Pilferer, Jeska's Will, Goblin Chirurgeon, Goblin Sledder, Mogg Raider, Pyroblast, Red Elemental Blast, Tibalt's Trickery, Mogg War Marshal, Legion Loyalist, Legion Warboss, Brash Taunter, Fable of the Mirror-Breaker Flip, Hobgoblin Bandit Lord, Muxus, Goblin Grandee (idk at what math this is good I'm sure someone did it already somewhere on the internet), Siege-Gang Commander, Zo-Zu the Punisher, Goblin Ringleader, Goblin Piledriver, Arms Dealer, Grotag Night-Runner, Goblin King (get 5th or 6th edition art btw).
Good luck on figuring things out. I'm off to bed
TheVectornaut on Mike's Goblinoid Attack Deck
2 years ago
Normally in a goblin deck, I'd just suggest running my lords like Goblin King , Goblin Chieftain , etc., and adding more copies of goodstuff like Goblin Grenade and Goblin Chainwhirler . However, to preserve the multiple tribe theme, I think focusing on warrior synergy would be the best idea. A good percentage of your creatures are already warriors and Blood-Chin Fanatic looks like one of the stronger cards in the deck.
Base Camp , Blood-Chin Rager , Kargan Intimidator , Boldwyr Intimidator , Lovisa Coldeyes , Obsidian Battle-Axe , and Raiders' Spoils are some warrior tribal cards in Rakdos, and Chief of the Edge , Chief of the Scale , Arashin Foremost , Herald of Dromoka , Kargan Warleader , and Mardu Woe-Reaper also apply when dipping into Mardu. I know most of these cards are just humans though, so here are some good warriors that fall under the goblinoid umbrella: Bloodmark Mentor , Goblin Bushwhacker , Goblin Cratermaker , Goblin Piledriver , Goblin Rabblemaster , Goblin Trashmaster , Krenko, Mob Boss , Pashalik Mons , Reckless Bushwhacker , Battle Brawler , Brutal Hordechief , Zurgo Bellstriker , Kazuul's Toll Collector , Ogre Battledriver , and Furystoke Giant . Which of these cards is best definitely depends on what your primary strategy is.
Anyway, good luck with your deck!
2deathscythe3 on Drakuseth mono red infect
3 years ago
objective get Drakuseth, Maw of Flames out as quick as possible tutor for Grafted Exoskeleton and win with infect damage you can also attach exoskeleton onto Balefire Dragon.
many little tricks in this deck Furystoke Giant with all your infect creatures is just a fun combo
having at least one or two of your damage doubling enchantments out will basically win you the game
many ways to play this deck
i am always up for upgrading and improving this deck
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor on Dr. Teeth and The Electric Mushroom
3 years ago
Thanks for the comment Byuante.
So this deck isn't really about attacking, which is why I have left out some of the more obvious finishers like Overwhelming Stampede and Craterhoof Behemoth . Though adding in one mass pump spell isn't a bad idea if my primary win-con fails.
Speaking of which, Furystoke Giant and Aerie Ouphes are part of this deck's win condition. This deck is all about using the persist mechanic to go infinite. Each creature with persist creates an infinite loop with a free sac outlet and either Grumgully, the Generous or Melira, Sylvok Outcast on the battlefield. I run all of the persist creatures simply because there aren't many of them to begin with.
Add in any of Purphoros, God of the Forge , Impact Tremors , Altar of Dementia , Blasting Station , Warstorm Surge , or Stalking Vengeance to close out the game. Though now that I see all of the finishers listed next to one another, I may cut Stalking Vengeance or Warstorm Surge . 6 payoffs is likely too many.
Woodfall Primus is a special case because it is both the best persist creature, and yet due to its ability, it is the worst for the combo. It can't go infinite because it must destroy a noncreature permanent. That means it will eventually have to start targeting my own things. I almost left it out of the deck because it basically reads: "your opponent's can't play for the rest of the game". However, it is just a very good card on it's own so I left it in the deck.
You are totally right about Phyrexian Altar , sadly I only own one right now and it is already in another deck. Spawning Pit is currently filling it's role.
Broken Bond is an interesting card that I really should try out. I always see it, but because it's sorcery speed I have never tried it. Plus it's another card that deals with Torpor Orb which automatically makes it something to consider.
Decisive on Dr. Teeth and The Electric Mushroom
3 years ago
I don't know if you have a budget, so hopefully these card's seem reasonable
Phyrexian Altar - Always nice having another sac outlet
Keeper of Fables - Another non-human benefiting card
Craterhoof Behemoth - A good finisher
Overwhelming Stampede - Another one
Triumph of the Hordes - Just a suggestion...note: I am not responsible for lost friends if you play this card XD
Broken Bond - Removal and ramp
In terms of things that are a bit lackluster:
Woodfall Primus - I, personally, don't think this is that good of a card, it just seems so expensive for removal
Furystoke Giant - Seems bad
Aerie Ouphes - Seems limited in its scope
Regrowth - You have Eternal Witness, maybe a bit redundant?
Spawning Pit - Depending on your personal experience, this might be a bad use of a sac outlet. Up to you
Hope this helps in some way!
apohl13 on Grenzo, Dungeon Warden - The Slot Machine of Value
3 years ago
After some thought I slotted in sling gang lieutenant over Furystoke Giant . They provide a similar role, but I haven't loved furystoke in the past
kamarupa on Paper Tiger
3 years ago
Furystoke Giant looks pretty cool. Because it has Persist, you could just swing with it and hope opponents foolishly kill it. Then it will bounce back and you'll get the effect a second time. Since you're running white already, you'd have the option of including Solemnity , which would make the Giant very hard to get rid off, though that might be pushing the 60 card target of the deck a little far. Also, if you added red, you'd gain access to Lightning Bolt , which you could us to kill your Giant and thus bounce it back to the battlefield. Also, don't forget that Priest of Forgotten Gods deals 2 damage to each opponent every time you activate it. IMHO, I'd consider that a worth losing 2x 1/1 tokens. Not saying that's the direction you should go, just that it's worth considering.
Disasterpiece on Paper Tiger
3 years ago
I think that splashing with black might be the way to go since it would give me access to the flashback feature of Lingering Souls . I like the idea of Priest of Forgotten Gods but I don't think sacking tokens would be a good idea without a way to get them back. I was toying with the idea of using Furystoke Giant as another possible win-con where I turn all the tokens into Shock essentially. Use Cloudshift to bounce Furystoke Giant to recreate the effect, but this would mean going a different direction as far as color splashing but it would open the door to Impact Tremors . The Furystoke Giant was my main idea when I started putting this together but I started looking into as many token generating cards as possible and red sort of worked its way out of the deck. Honor of the Pure seems like a must have card in this build as well as Anointed Procession , I knew there was a card like this out there and that you'd know what it was! I agree that Champion of the Parish probably is not the best fit here, most of the tokens generated aren't specifically human, at least not enough to make it a game changer. What do you think of the Furystoke Giant combo, any cards you think would tie into the general concept?