Tibalt's Trickery

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Brawl Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Pre-release Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Standard Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Tibalt's Trickery

Instant

Counter target spell. Choose 1, 2 or 3 at random. Its controller mills that many cards, then exiles cards from the top of their library until they exile a nonland card with a different name than that spell. They may cast that card without paying its mana cost. Then they put the exiled cards on the bottom of their library in a random order.

MightyPox on Demon Till Your Dreams Come True

2 months ago

Hi Rocketman! How is it going?

Nice to see your Rakdos primer is still active and updated!
I appreciate the new section about Rakdos Game Theory!
Haven't played Magic for some time now but my buddy and I will be getting back at it soon. In preparation for that I went through the Rakdos-coloured demons on Gatherer and saw that there are new demons to consider for the deck.

Bloodletter of Aclazotz
We can always use effects like Archfiend of Despair/Fiery Emancipation, so this one's really good.
My deck does most of it's damage during my turn anyhow. Definitely adding it to the deck.

Infernal Sovereign
An effect in the vein of Recycle/Null Profusion on a 6/6 flying, trampling demon may help us in a pseudo combo turn.
I'm usually always playing a land and/or spell each turn or drawing/filtering cards in other ways so skipping the draw step is not a great set back. Not sure about this one but will be testing it.

Bringer of the Last Gift
Living Death is one of my favourite cards in this deck and here it is stacked on a 6/6 flying demon.
The only draw back is that it has to be cast for which is a steep price as most of the expensive demons are reanimated. Only Hellcarver Demon may cheat it into play.
Nevertheless I will try this one out, maybe in place of Patriarch's Bidding.

Scourge of the Skyclaves
This one has been around for a while now and most of the time it will be : everybody loses half of his or her life.
In an earlier iteration of the deck I ran Havoc Festival which was nice because it speeds up things and my opponents would lose the life before me and not simultaneously.
Still for this deck I'm always looking for demons that do "crazy things" and maybe one day I will test this guy.

Concerning The Balrog of Moria: I read that you had this one on and off your deck and I think I like it.
All of it's abilities are relevant to us. If I find space for him I will test him for sure!


I read through your change log/Rakdos Game Theory/user comments and I understand that you emphasize playing the commander and therefore divert slightly away from the demon-theme.
While I think that your success proves you right, I just can't bring myself to cut a lot of demons from this deck - I'm a flavour freak on this one. :D
I'm really light on Rakdos protection (Tibalt's Trickery, Lightning Greaves and Not of this World are the only ones right now). Maybe if I could find room for Bolt Bend and Deflecting Swat I could see myself casting Rakdos more often.
On the other hand: since I've been playing this deck 1vs1 most of the time, connecting with Rakdos is devastating for my opponent and almost always leads to victory.
I also had situations when I had the mana to cast Rakdos very early in the game but had also options to do crazy stuff that could potentially win me the game.
Albeit risky I mostly tried the crazy things because this is my only deck that can do this kind of thing - the Rakdos thing. :D

I'm looking forward on reading what you think about the demon suggestions I made in this post!

burferking on The Devil Made me do it,…

4 months ago

Besides Stonecoil Serpent, what else do you counter with Tibalt's Trickery? I suggest that you add more 0 Mana Value spells like Memnite, Kobolds, and/or 1 Mana Value spells with Phyrexian Mana like Noxious Revival and Surgical Extraction.

Lightningbolter on Isshin (Unfinished)

4 months ago

Ogre Battledriver is kind of nice I may add him.

I did know that about Elturel Survivors, thanks for letting me know how that works tho.

I'll stick to deathtouch rather than menace, as I said Pyreheart Wolf Was really just filler lol.

Skyhunter Strike Force is nice I'll keep that in mind.

Yeah I pretty much made the decision to cut Lightning Runner as we were speaking as I thought the same, also thanks for checking the price.

Corpse Knight and Witty Roastmaster are good adds, I didn't even think of taking advantage of the tokens with things like them and similar effects lol.

Hellrider and didn't even see that effect of Commissar Severina Raine but they are both good for the same reason.

I'll take the lands into account, Captain Lannery Storm is quite nice with isshin.

I'll keep Tibalt's Trickery in mind but for now I'll keep chaos warp for overall budget reasons lol.

I missed Soul Partition in the brothers war set, it's quite nice.

Generous Gift and Stroke of Midnight are definitely nice cards, kind of forgot about Generous Gift lol.

As for now I like Mortify a bit better as there's currently no really threatening Artifacts, but Wear / Tear will be noted tho.

I love Plumb the Forbidden lol.

Fates' Reversal is really just for the times isshin gets killed a lot and he becomes too expensive to cast again, the idea I have is just let him go to the graveyard and bring him back if it gets stopped it's no big deal as that would be my last effort before complete death, that's really all Fates' Reversal is for lol.

I did see Flowering of the White Tree But don't have it for money reasons.

Crow_Umbra on Isshin (Unfinished)

4 months ago

Brew discussions are one of my favorite aspects of MtG and EDH. I'll hop on Discord a couple times a month and talk with my best friend about our deck ideas. We end up chatting for a couple hours at a time as we deliberate on decisions lol.

I used to run Fervor until Rising of the Day dropped earlier this year.

  • Ogre Battledriver is also a great Haste and Power boost for your creatures that ETB.

  • A note with Elturel Survivors is that its +X buff is static, so that won't get doubled by Isshin. This is what allows the Myriad tokens to "see" the lands that your opponents control. So each Myriad copy will check for the number of lands its respective defending opponent controls.

  • If you do want a Menace anthem, Goblin War Drums is also an option for the same CMC as Pyreheart Wolf, but is a bit more removal resistant. Hard to pass up on those death touch anthems though.

  • If you like Adriana, Captain of the Guard, I'd recommend checking out Skyhunter Strike Force as a slighter CMC cheaper option, or as a redundant effect.

  • The tough thing with Lightning Runner is that it still has to attack over two turns to get the full 8 energy with Isshin on the board. Without him that gets stretched out to over 4 turns. I took a quick look at Cardkingdom, and the cheapest non-foil Aurelia is about $6.99.

  • The ETB group slug damage can get nasty once Isshin starts doubling up the token production on attacks, especially with Myrel. Some other budget effects are Corpse Knight and Witty Roastmaster. Purphoros, God of the Forge is still fairly out of budget, but a nice upgrade if you wanted to move that direction.

  • Hellrider, Commissar Severina Raine, and Brutal Hordechief are a nice suite of group slug damage that encourage you to swing with big boards. Commissar is also like a budget Skullclamp on a stick. Speaking of which, Skullclamp is a great draw piece for all your small token creatures, and should be under $10, depending on the printing.

  • I'm currently running 35 lands in my Isshin deck, along with the 3 Talismans, Sol Ring, Arcane Signet, Sword of the Animist, and some Treasure production in the form of Captain Lannery Storm, Professional Face-Breaker, and a handful of other Treasure producers.

As for the instants and sorceries, I tend not to suggest cuts as much there, since I think that's where more meta & playgroup specific tech decisions can be made. Generally speaking, I recommend cutting out single target sorcery speed removal, and saving those sorcery slots for board wipes & draw, Also try to make your instant speed removal be as target-versatile as possible to cut down on how many permanent-specific options you need to include. Here are a few thoughts I do have:

  • I'd suggest swapping Chaos Warp with Tibalt's Trickery. It's fun to catch people off guard with a red counter spell, and White & Black have a better go at removing the permanent types that Red typically can't. I think Chaos Warp is better if you're running a Red color combo that doesn't have access to Enchantment removal.

  • Terminate or Condemn can be cut or swapped with Soul Partition. Soul Partition is great since it can (temporarily) remove a troublesome nonland permanent, or save one of your own if needed. Sometimes the extra can throw off an oppoent's tempo if they really need to recast whatever you exiled, & sets them back a turn or two.

  • I think Vindicate can be replaced with Generous Gift and/or Stroke of Midnight. I think that making your suite of removal be as versatile as possible across a few cards can help you save multiple slots that are more specific/situational on what they can remove. The creature tokens created by Generous Gift & Stroke of Midnight are fairly low impact, & typically die in chump blocks or board wipes.

  • Mortify can probably replaced with Wear / Tear as an instant speed option that hits multiple targets.

  • If you want some instant speed draw, I'd recommend checking out Plumb the Forbidden. It's an excellent response to your opponents board wiping, and since you can create copies of it, the copies will dodge counter spells.

  • Fates' Reversal can probably be cut. Isshin doesn't really want single target recursion, and the Venture the Dungeon is better if you have other instances of Venturing to get its benefits. Lich-Knights' Conquest is a new option for mass recursion that you can throw some creature or treasure tokens into.

  • A little off track from the instants and sorceries, but I'd recommend swapping out Paladin Class and replacing it with Flowering of the White Tree. The Ward 1 can make your opponents look for easier targets to remove, & helps some of your more aggro Legends stick around.

GorramScoundrel on legendofa

5 months ago

Ended up cutting Tibalt's Trickery for Unmarked Grave, thanks for the suggestion!

Icbrgr on Modern Horizons Light

6 months ago

@SpammyV Getting into Premodern is an interesting idea... I haven't really thought about or looked into that format before. Arent Lurrus of the Dream-Den, Mystic Sanctuary, Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath, Tibalt's Trickery, Oko, Thief of Crowns and Field of the Dead all Banned in Modern? Not saying that Omnath, Locus of Creation or Thassa's Oracle wouldn't be powerful; but most of what you said has already been addressed as problematic cards... I dont know if its a fact or just a rumor but I remember hearing when standard was going super crazy powerful WOTC said they were giving up on playtesting cards (at least for impact on eternal formats) before releasing them and would just ban them if they became problematic.

I agree with Modern Horizons providing good/crucial interaction... Force of Negation/Solitude are great... but when the opponent uses Violent Outburst and has a Force of Negation to protect it and I'm dealing with Crashing Footfalls/Living End I get big mad and big sad lol.... not that there wasn't nonsense before Modern Horizons or that I could say this theory format would be better in that regard; but the pursuit/goal of this concept was really just an opportunity to give the Original Modern a second chance to continue being what is was initially meant to be... sure we wouldn't have Solitude but eventually we got March of Otherworldly Light.

Crow_Umbra on Obi-Wan Budget

9 months ago

Happy to help. I always found it helpful over the years when people would give me more detailed explanations as to why a swap or suggestion made sense over what I was playing. Basically anything deeper than "this card is good/this card is better".

I think you can probably swap out Greatsword of Tyr for Arcane Signet. Helps your color fixing and ramp a bit more on curve. Twohanded Axe can be swapped with any of the following:

  • Scapegoat as another board protection effect. Sac a creature token & return as many of your creatures to hand as you need to. Helps dodge a variety of boardwipes, & lets you pace out your board re-deployment as needed.

  • Brave the Sands a helpful Vigilance anthem that can also help you get more mileage out of your extra combat steps that specify when your creatures untap. Also helpful for making your board "wider", especially in early game or after wipes.

  • Deadly Dispute Sac a creature token or artifact to draw 2 & make a treasure token. Not bad.

  • Tibalt's Trickery as a funky counterspell option. Offers some versatility in terms of protecting your stuff against wipes or targeted removal, or can be used more proactively against someone else's combo piece.

In regards to my deck list, you can either follow this link, or hop over to my profile, and it should be near the top.

Crow_Umbra on Obi-Wan Budget

9 months ago

Happy to help. I always found it helpful over the years when people would give me more detailed explanations as to why a swap or suggestion made sense over what I was playing. Basically anything deeper than "this card is good/this card is better".

I think you can probably swap out Greatsword of Tyr for Arcane Signet. Helps your color fixing and ramp a bit more on curve. Twohanded Axe can be swapped with any of the following:

  • Scapegoat as another board protection effect. Sac a creature token & return as many of your creatures to hand as you need to. Helps dodge a variety of boardwipes, & lets you pace out your board re-deployment as needed.

  • Brave the Sands a helpful Vigilance anthem that can also help you get more mileage out of your extra combat steps that specify when your creatures untap. Also helpful for making your board "wider", especially in early game or after wipes.

  • Deadly Dispute Sac a creature token or artifact to draw 2 & make a treasure token. Not bad.

  • Tibalt's Trickery as a funky counterspell option. Offers some versatility in terms of protecting your stuff against wipes or targeted removal, or can be used more proactively against someone else's combo piece.

In regards to my deck list, you can either follow this link, or hop over to my profile, and it should be near the top.

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