YamishiTheWickedOne Lord of Darkness
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Needs a more original title, I feel. Though I'd rather keep to Castlevania references.
December 12, 2017 6:43 p.m.
I feel like Asylum Visitor is better than Bob in this deck anyway. Just ran a few tests and I honestly really like it. To the point I'm wondering if my control build would be better off running a few extra swamps and Blood Moons. Kinda wonder if I should just break down and save up for a 3rd and 4th Lily at this point.
December 11, 2017 9:17 a.m.
You know, in my playtesting, which has been entirely solitaire on here thus far, I've started to think that enchantments for 4 mana might be too slow for the flow/structure of my deck, unless I have skullclamp (and it hasn't been removed) and I've refilled my hand.
I'm trying to gear this toward multiplayer but I tend to dislike the idea of games with more than 3-4 people. Eventually I'll have places to be. Even still I want to make sure the deck's stable/sustainable in longer games with cards like Aristocrat, Yahenni, Bloodcrazed Paladin, etc. (the aforementioned Skullclamp to draw like a madman until it eats a removal). I appreciate the help you've given me toward evolving this past just single way.
December 9, 2017 9:28 p.m.
I'm literally brand new to EDH. Been playing Modern since the format began so I'm way more used to fast-paced 1v1s. I'm using the playtester here to get a feel for what my deck does and how it flows. Mirri, I dunno, she looks like she's too easy to kill, but I just added Aristocrat because let's face it she'll have plenty to sac. I had my eye on Anointed Procession even though that's another card I'd have to go out and buy just because I value consistency and games will inevitably get into that late game phase, so I figured there's some mileage there, turning 1 card into 3 cards.
December 9, 2017 8:22 p.m.
I'm looking at my own list of creatures right now and just thinking about how, yeah I still want most of my creatures to be little guys, but how as the game goes on they're just going to smash into big creatures and die over time if I don't have my enchantments out. I know the whole point of my deck is my creatures are disposable pawns, but I'm thinking of replacing a few cards like Bloodcrazed Neonate and Child of Night with things that have evasion.
December 9, 2017 8:05 p.m.
I honestly just love that title. Pretty similar concept to mine. You seem focused more on staying power than speed, is where we differ. There are cards in here I've been honestly wondering about but would need to go out and buy, most notable Anointed Procession and Purphoros as a way to double down late game.
December 9, 2017 7:48 p.m.
Yeah like I said it's largely based on those just because I wanted to go fast. I also just liked the concepts of "spawn a billion tokens while burning everyone out".
December 9, 2017 7:39 p.m.
@Erich_Zann Took your advice, added, Wear/Tear, Vandalblast, Fiery Confluence for artifact hate, added Worship because lol why not, and decided to try out Mirror Entity to snag surprise kills since he's technically a vampire, all in place of targeted hand disruption since I do agree with you in that it feels clunky in multiplayer. Switched Incinerate out for Terminate because if you've seen my modern decks I just really like that card anyway.
Would love if more people joined the discussion. It's in the early stages but I really like this deck.
December 9, 2017 4:05 p.m.
I've been thinking instead of hand disruption that for multiplayer I might wanna go with some artifact hate due to the prevalence of rocks and the like. Once I finish putting this together irl (I'm only missing a few things) I'll see if I should break out Vandalblast and friends.
December 9, 2017 2:14 p.m.
December 9, 2017 1:40 p.m.
Mainboard looks up to date for competitive burn. Only thing I'd change is -1 fetch and +1 Grim Lavamancer.
December 9, 2017 8 a.m.
He'll be a maybe, I've been meaning to buy him for a while since Purphoros is useful in aggro decks anyway, but the reason for Tremors over him for the moment was that it comes out so much faster in a deck that's meant to hit the ground running even in EDH. I really like Purphoros' last ability in here though as it's not uncommon to have 12+ vamps turn 6 but be low on hand (meaning a mana dump is nice). Don't see the devotion typically being met though as half my board is tokens at any given time.
December 9, 2017 7:32 a.m.
Your mana curve is really, REALLY steep for Modern, which is a fast format where you generally see maybe one 5 mana card at most in decks that aren't Tron. If you want to play lifelink vampires I suggest you try Black/White due to new Ixilan stuff as well as Sorin, but going multicolor can get expensive as you NEED fetch/shock lands to have any level of consistency. A good thing about vampires is they have a really broad range of creatures ranging from 1-4 mana so you can establish a very nice tempo, and black has access to some of the best removal in modern right now in the form of Fatal Push (like I said 85% of the format is cards that are 3 or less mana). You could also try Black/Red if you like the synergy that Stromkirk Captain has with both Gifted Aetherborn and Vampire Nighthawk. First strike is incredibly powerful, particularly when combined with deathtouch. Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet is expensive in terms of mana but his effects are so powerful it's insane. You don't really have anywhere near enough 1-drops to abuse Westvale Abbey, and even then I feel Demon of Death's Gate is stronger in weenie vamps, but even then he's a sideboard card. Another tip based on experience.... Feast of Blood is the worst vampire support card in magic for so many reasons. Sorcery speed removal is bad to begin with, and needing 2 creatures to survive long enough to use it... I can't justify using this card.
I feel like you're obviously a beginer, aand fine tuning your mana curve will come with experience. I wish you luck.
December 8, 2017 7:27 a.m.
I don't know about the Mind Eaters actually. (are those legal in tribal wars?) How common is graveyard abuse? I wondered about mainboard relics, even knowing there's no siding.
December 8, 2017 6:11 a.m.
Honestly probably the mind eaters, Bloodline Keeper, maybe even Captivating. Again you just don't have the volume of 1-drops needed to really take advantage of what these lords can offer. Asylum Visitor, Gatekeeper of Malakir and Stromkirk Captain are all amazing here though triple black mana could be an issue for gatekeeper.
December 8, 2017 6:06 a.m.
The thing about Modern is unless you're playing a monocolored deck you can't really get away with using all basic lands and expect good results. If you have anything resembling a budget, the place I recommend starting is finding the cheapest fetch lands in your colors, possibly trading up, and getting ahold of a set of the fast lands and shock lands. In plain terms you'd at least want 4 each of Bloodstained Mire, Blackcleave Cliffs and Blood Crypt. In interest of working on a budget I'll mention Dragonskull Summit isn't the best dual land but it did just get reprinted. Yes... Modern unfortunately has a pretty steep buy-in, mostly in lands, but once you have them they'll be used in many, many future projects.
Now... Where to start with your card choices? I understand and can very much see this is a work in progress, so I'll just be honest with you and say most of these are just... kinda bad, no offense.
Okay, I'll list off some better choices with synergy: you have Falkenrath Gorger. That's a step in the right direction. Next up I'd take a look at the following cards: Stromkirk Condemned, Stromkirk Captain. These two plus Gorger lets your guys get huge fast and makes them significantly harder to kill in combat, especially since off of Gorger you can flash in Captain as you're attacking so your Gorger and Condemned are suddenly a pair of 4 power first strike fatties on turn 3. The next two are Bloodghast and Asylum Visitor. Both are good discard options with or without Gorger and Visitor is 3 power for 2 CMC, and also a pseudo Dark Confidant if you play her correctly. Almost literally everything this deck could want in a 2 drop. The next two are beaters that function as discard outlets to keep the flow of your deck running steady: Heir of Falkenrath and Smuggler's Copter. Yes, a vehicle. I recommend Heir to anyone who can't afford Liliana of the Veil. It's a cheaper and much more aggressive way to discard, besides being a 2 mana version of Delver of Secrets for vamps.
Those enchantments are terrible. Call the Bloodline is my pick for the worst vampire support card in existence that's not Feast of Blood (that card is all kinds of terrible). For your noncreatures, it's your call in regard to draw spells but I'd only keep Faithless Looting at most. For removal, you want mostly generic stuff. Try and trade for a set of Fatal Push, Lightning Bolt and Terminate, then mix/match them as your meta dictates. Kolaghan's Command if you can get one might be useful as a one-of. It's not a great card but for flavor/support you can play around with Urge to Feed as well.
After all is said and done, with any space you have left, you can try to squeeze in as many Vampire Nocturnus, Gatekeeper of Malakir, Gifted Aetherborn, Vampire Nighthawk, or Olivia, Mobilized for War as you want. I like the idea of a one-of Captivating Vampire if most of your guys are small. You could main or even side Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet and Olivia Voldaren, both of which are strong enough to side or sometimes main in non-vampire meta decks. Kalastria Highborn or Viscera Seer can be okay insurance cards if you're fearing a boardwipe.
I think the most important thing I'll tell you here is that too many discard outlets is bad. Don't fret too much about madness or not, you have gorger, and if you can save up for bloodghast/visitor you should be fine. You don't wanna be casting your killspells at sorcery speed too often. This is why if you can only take one Bolt is better than Fiery Temper.
December 7, 2017 8:57 a.m.
Well, might I recommend some form of draw power to make sure you don't just grind to a halt? Phyrexian Arena is one, Asylum Visitor is a vamp, Sign in Blood is flavorful. Viscera Seer or Insolent Neonate might help with consistency too.
December 6, 2017 10:11 p.m.
One thing I'd really strongly recommend is Stromkirk Captain since you have basically 8 nighthawks. Legion's landing is ramp which is nice in a curve this heavy but you just don't have the volume of 1-drops you'd need to properly abuse it.
December 6, 2017 8:03 p.m.
So are you supposed to be on the slower side? I'm a modern player and not legacy, much less Tribal Wars, but your creatures really seem to be on the heftier side in terms of mana. Vamps can be much, much faster if you wanna go more tempo and just do 1-drop 2-drop 3-drop/lord 4-drop/lord and they have some pretty robust little guys.
December 6, 2017 6:14 p.m.
Like I said, I'm really not sure this is the direction I want to go in the long run. That classic version of my deck on my page is what I ran for years and it was able to contend with some serious heavyweights. But now I'm just really not sure what to do. If I make a new pure tribal with all these new cards, and admittedly, the synergies are really nice, it just doesn't feel like my deck anymore. I just feel sorta lost honestly.
December 4, 2017 11:09 p.m.
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