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Creature — Goblin Shaman
: Spikeshot Elder deals damage equal to its power to target creature or player.
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Spikeshot Elder Discussion
1 week ago
I love Mairsil, the Pretender . He can be troublesome to get going because you really need to cage a flicker effect like AEtherling . Once that is out of the way though he turns into one of the hardest to kill commanders I've ever played or seen played. I usually don't kill people with commander damage like a normal voltron deck does but the option is there. Usually I combo off with him in some gross fashion like Tree of Perdition + Spikeshot Elder . Still I tend to think of the deck in a manner similar to voltron because of how commander reliant it is.
4 weeks ago
Took a look over the list. Have a couple questions to ask first before I can offer you some cards you can consider!
- What is your budget? How much are you willing to spend for a single card?
- Is there any house rules you play by? Ex. No infinite combo, No land destruction, etc.
- Aside from tribal theme, what deck direction do you want to go to? Aggro, combo, value? Some cards right away I would add albeit is Goblin Matron , Spikeshot Elder , Goblin Sharpshooter , Dark-Dweller Oracle , Goblin Ringleader , and Thornbite Staff . Pretty much value cards that a core Krenko should have, you have most of the great Goblin cards needed. Looking forward to hearing your response!
1 month ago
carlmoores I'm always happy to see another Mairsil player join the ranks :) He does play wildly different then most other things. Takes a little while to wrap your head around. Hopefully I have some good answers for you.
Some amount of board wipes are always needed. Your own meta will determine how many you should have but I run 4, Jaya Ballard, Task Mage , Nevinyrral's Disk , Oblivion Stone , Perilous Vault . I do not run and have not messed around with pillow forts in Mairsil. The amount of removal I run enables me to remove most threats. I have another deck, Divine Decree, that is a pillowfort/group slug deck and it still runs 3-4 board wipes along side 20-ish pillows. If your asking specifically about on board vs not on board, well I have never found a reason to run Damnation in this deck. I do run a lot more removal in this deck than I do in any other deck because of how small my board state usually is. The pillows you run should allow you to run less removal than me but remember pillows can be removed and are usually removed when it is least convenient...
I usually find myself flickering Mairsil rather than untapping him. I have some untap because it isn't useless but unless you have a lot in the cage or have one of the 'abuse' cards like Quicksilver Elemental in play each ability can only be used once per turn. I just find flicker effects more useful than untap effects. Which is why I also put such an emphasis on haste.
I wouldn't run a lot of hard hitting self mill like Traumatize but running 1-3 things like it or Mirror-Mad Phantasm can take you from doing poorly/ok to winning the game. I had that happen the other day actually. I was doing ok and then got mirror-mad to dump more than half my deck, followed up with Deadeye Navigator and went infinite. Definitely worth a few spots but can backfire.
Usually when I use Buried Alive I grab a flicker or haste effect and Spikeshot Elder + Tree of Perdition and win or come close to winning that turn. So I don't think Archaeomancer is needed to recur buried alive if you use it that way. If you are looking for more long term value and are using Entomb and Final Parting it is definitely worth testing. That would also give you another wizard for Galecaster Colossus which I have found to be really useful in and out of the cage.
Think I covered all your questions pretty well? Let me know if I can be of more help.
1 month ago
Rogue_Toaster Thanks, glad I can be of help. Getting to use some pet cards of my own is actually part of why I even built this, lol. I also completely forgot Jaya Ballard, Task Mage is a spellshaper... She has been very worth it.
Had a situation where someone had played Grip of Chaos and I just couldn't get my abilities to hit the right thing. I got lucky with a caged Tree of Perdition (and by lucky I mean I used the ability close to 15 times) followed by 6 damage to everyone taking out the chaos player and one other. Finished off the others shortly after with Spikeshot Elder. I learned that grip is way undervalued that day...
I could see the altar being a decent addition too.
3 months ago
A few quick gatherer searches gave me some interesting cards
5 months ago
Skjoldschoennemann I actually just removed Conjurer's Closet and Hateflayer. The closet doesn't play well with AEtherling and so more often than not just sat there and did nothing or almost nothing. I guess it saves me but that hasn't seemed like enough of a reason to keep it. Hateflayer is fun and will likely find a way back into the deck I just like Spikeshot Elder more since i don't need to do any tapping which is a requirement if I want to untap.
I tired a few bounce effects before but I just didn't like them. Ends up requiring too much mana and I can only get Mairsil back out on my turn. Flicker effects allow me to just keep things going much easier and in a much more broken way.
6 months ago
List looks good. Out of curiosity, why are you running Flamekin Spitfire over Spikeshot Elder? I know it's not much but Elder reduces your life loss off Ad Naus and once you generate infinite red the cost of the ability is irrelevant.
Spikeshot Elder occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%