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Orzhov Guildgate Discussion
2 months ago
Ok, here's a little bit of analysis to consider. Break it up into some comments to read. These are opinions based on experience, playing and watching lots of commander content over the years, doesn't account for your specific playstyle or how you have fun playing commander which are certainly as important of decisions, as is card selection.
You are very low in the mana curve, 11 1-drop, 21 2-drop, 15 3-drop, 16 4-drop, and Orzhov () has lots of pips, but mana ramp is critical to getting your plan onboard as quickly as others, having mana available to advance board state/gain advantage and have interaction, and landing your larger threats sooner.
Sol Ring (CMC1 for 2 = +1 mana) is a must include.
Orzhov Signet I personally don't like (CMC3 for 1 = -2 mana) but also you're in which doesn't ramp as it's core strength.
Arcane Signet (CMC2 for 1 = -1 mana) is a must include, there are only a few archetypes I wouldn't play this in and usually only .
Talisman of Hierarchy (CMC2 for 1 = -1 mana) is a must include in .
I would start with that at least, some fringe ones I like are: Burnished Hart (creature/recursion), Commander's Sphere (draw), Mycosynth Wellspring (to hand, fringe), Pristine Talisman (lifegain, fringe), Solemn Simulacrum (ramp+draw!), The Birth of Meletis (doesn't help with , but ramp, 0/4 blocker, lifegain? it has it all!), Wayfarer's Bauble (ramp).
On a premise of battlecruiser/low/mid power 3-6 I DO NOT recommend these, but there are stronger options out there beyond 6: Phyrexian Altar (combo builds), Mana Vault , Mana Crypt , Chrome Mox , Smothering Tithe , Land Tax (Might not be bad in this build)
Honestly on a Avg. CMC 2.99 mana curve, I would likely have 10-12 ramp.
Some potential cuts for these:
Gorgon's Head you've got plenty of deathtouch already, it's not pairing with a Viridian Longbow strategy or anything, it's redundant, but also the worst. Easy cut. (We can get to Open the Armory / Steelshaper's Gift later)
Pierce Strider CMC4 for a 3/3 is just plain bad, the idea is play, do 3 damage, block/sac it, noone going to pay 3 to prevent it? but they will because it's going to do 3 anyway on return, and if your using recursion on this, your making the wrong play as it has no value engine on it. Easy cut.
Creeping Chill for CMC4 sorcery is not great, you're not playing a mill strategy so you're not really casting it for free often. It's not a strong play, we can find better ones, like ramping into Athreos, God of Passage sooner.
Font of Return for CMC6? Yikes. (CMC2+CMC4 for 3 creatures to hand is not great, we can get them on the battlefield for that high a CMC).
Angelic Gift hmm we have flyers, with deathtouch, it replaces itself (draw a card) but unless we flickering it ( Ephemerate or Brago, King Enternal something like that, it sets up easy 2-for-1 if an opponent has instand speed removal.
Topic: Lands! (Umm!)
Average Distribution Build: 38 lands
Average Budget Build: 36 lands
Average Expensive Build: 37 lands
Average Aristocrats Build: 35 lands
Average Reanimator Build: 31 lands (closer)
Your Build: 30 lands (Umm!)
No way you can run 30 lands, and 0 ramp in this deck. I wouldn't shuffle this deck with less than 33 lands, probably 34-36 if I'm playing enters tapped/utility lands. I might (maybe not) go to 33 lands with 9+ ramp spells, but even then, 34 would feel better.
Do you have a combo with Piranha Marsh like Worldgorger Dragon does, if not, just delaying yourself for little value (1 damage). Kabira Crossroads in this same bucket, it's just not work the tapped mana.
Let's be honest, lands SUCK, they are too expensive! Here is a list of lands you should look at:
Lands I don't suggest: Evolving Wilds / Terramorphic Expanse (<$1 fixed color), Scoured Barrens (<$1 fixed color), Isolated Chapel ($6, Not bad but not T1 land), Myriad Landscape (<$1, slow), Temple of Silence (<$1, scry/slow).
Have to head out, I'll review more topics and recs later, but here are some other cards can come out for mana. Gorgon Flail it's on theme and not bad, but let's get that Basilisk Collar or Quietus Spike instead. Soul Stair Expedition I would rather Animate Dead or Reanimate to the battlefield right away, not have to wait for lands (it still sacrifices itself). Not Forgotten we have better removal. Have to head out now! More later to read. :) If it's too much info, let me know!
5 months ago
Hey, Skullclamp is one of the better repeatable die effects with Teysa since drawing 4 cards each time you equip to a creature for 1 mana is very good value. Skullclamp could replace Wayfarer's Bauble. The maybeboard is packed full of good cards that could be upgrades and there's several budget cards there to consider adding.
- Arcane Signet
- Talisman of Hierarchy
- Viscera Seer
- Archon of Justice
- Sun Titan
- Court of Grace
- Demon's Disciple
- Woe Strider
- Solemn Simulacrum
- Kaya's Wrath
- Generous Gift
- High Market
- Tainted Field
- Temple of Silence
These cards could replace:
- Vivid Marsh
- Vivid Meadow
- Orzhov Guildgate
- Gavony Unhallowed
- Dauntless Cathar
- Voracious Null
- Unruly Mob
- Countless Gears Renegade
- Thallid Omnivore
- Bone Splinters
- Elixir of Immortality
- Fellwar Stone
- Thallid Soothsayer
Other good budget cards with Teysa: Dark Prophecy, Midnight Reaper, Dreadhorde Invasion, Victimize, Ministrant of Obligation, Marauding Blight-Priest, Path of Ancestry, Witch's Cottage, Esper Panorama, Ash Barrens.
Good luck with your deck.
7 months ago
Change log after not investing in this list in a while:
In terms of creature swaps, Ashen Rider is incredibly strong and a hard cut, but I’d rather have the cheap efficiency of Path. Archon of Justice costs less and is about as good.
Boreas Charger has always kinda sucked even if I get double death triggers, so in goes Celebrant as an additional wincon.
Sadistic Hypnotist is pretty good, but Altar costs less, can sacrifice at instant speed, and is a wincon.
Just an upgrade to a mana rock. I’d rather curve into Teysa on turn two than have an extra colorless mana a turn later.
This list really badly needed a way to just draw cards instantly; we have plenty of card draw value engines. I decided Dark Prophecy competed with Necro for its slot and got the cut.
Martyrs Bond I never really saw while playing, but I’d rather have another drain effect than something that stalls the game.
Sorry, foil original print Sorin, he’s a little slow to generate tokens for his mana cost. The deck needed a fourth tutor to more consistently pull together its combos anyway, and Grim is a spicy recent reprint.
And just some upgrades in the manabase. Overall, can’t wait to see how this list can perform even better!
10 months ago
Hey, nice budget version of Teysa with Deathmantle and Altar.
Cards to consider adding:
- Scheming Symmetry: great causal tutor, you get something and an opponent of your choice does too.
- Open the Armory: tutor for Skullclamp or Nim Deathmantle, two important cards to have more access too.
- Phyrexian Reclamation: Mystery Booster Set version, repeatable creature recursion.
- Viscera Seer: Core Set 2011 version, one drop sac outlet and scying is helpful.
- Doomed Traveler: one drop who creates a flying token.
- Mirror Entity: Mystery Booster Set version, pump Teysa and tokens. With a lot of tokens and mana this can be a win condition especially with flying tokens.
- Skirsdag High Priest: creates 5/5 Demon tokens and morbid can be triggered on any players turn if any creature died that turn. It's good in multiplayer and with tokens with vigilance.
- Fetid Heath: Double Masters version.
- Silent Clearing
- Shambling Vent
Any game when you have Skullclamp on the battlefield is going to be a better game than if you don't. Adding a few budget tutors that can get Clamp or one of your combo artifacts can be helpful.
Cards to consider cutting:
- 1x Plains
- 1x Swamp
- Temple of the False God: it can't make mana until turn five or after.
- Forsaken Sanctuary
- Orzhov Guildgate
- Final Payment
- Burnished Hart: too slow for ramp and doesn't trigger Teysa when it sacs itself.
- Butcher of Malakir: you have Pact and Dictate, don't also need this seven drop.
- Doomed Dissenter: Traveler is an upgrade because he creates a 1/1 flying token when he dies.
- Vindictive Vampire: the other aristocrats are better.
Good luck with your deck.
11 months ago
You should consider adding Isolated Chapel Chapel and Caves of Koilos, they are much better than for example the Orzhov Guildgate you are playing atm. Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Cabal Coffers could also be added although they are expensive.
While I didn't play this deck myself yet, I also assume you lack a bit of card draw. You only play Phyrexian Arena, Dawn of Hope and Well of Lost Dreams. All three of these cards are either slow, vulnerable to enemy spells or mana-inefficient. Therefore I suggest adding some black one-way carddraw spells like for example Read the Bones or Ambition's Cost or similar spells.
One could also consider adding Necropotence because that card is really broken.
1 year ago
1 year ago
Orzhov Guildgate over Evolving Wilds? They both come in tapped Scoured Barrens over Terramorphic Expanse? They both come in tapped Orzhov Signet over Talisman of Hierarchy? One doesn't cost life both 2 drops Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth over a singular Swamp? All lands now tap for a Blk mana
1 year ago
And it looks like spoilers don't work in comments, at least not for me! So much for keeping things neat. Anyway, here's what I wanted to say:
Esper Panorama - Seems unnecessary in a two color deck. If you build it right, color fixing should never be a problem
Geier Reach Sanitarium - You have access to better card draw effects in black
Kabira Crossroads - One time life gain doesn't make up for coming in tapped
Memorial to Folly - This one is just okay. The effect is alright, probably not worth losing a land for in my opinion
Orzhov Guildgate - I personally avoid tap lands like the plague, they slow you down to much in my opinion
Radiant Fountain - One time life gain doesn't make up for this not producing colored mana
- Curse of Fool's Wisdom - This really screws over one opponent, but what you should be shooting for is stuff that does "splash damage" so to speak, remember, you will usually have three or more opponents in a game.
Armillary Sphere - This one is just okay. Ensures you hit land drops, but doesn't boost you
Bontu's Monument - I don't feel like you're running enough creatures for this effect to pay off
Fountain of Renewal - "On your upkeep" effects seem really powerful, but on a multiplayer format, your upkeep happens less often relatively speaking. It's not terrible for the cost, but I'm sure we can do better
- Final Parting - I don't think you have enough graveyard interaction to make this better than other tutors
Ranger of Eos - This can only snag four of your creatures. Granted those creatures are pretty good for your strategey, but I personally don't think it is worth it
Murder - There are definitely better kill spells we can find
Ray of Distortion - Not bad, you're definitely getting that choice is key in EDH; however, I think there are a couple better options to choose from
Sun Droplet - This card is a sleeper! Not that it says each upkeep, helping you stack those sweet, sweet Karlov triggers
Talisman of Hierarchy - I love the talismans. Great rocks in any multicolor EDH deck in my opinion
Read the Bones - One of my favorite black draw spells. Card selection plus draw is generally very powerful
Syphon Mind - A critically underplayed draw spell in my opinion. Puts you up quite a few cards on each opponent
Blood Artist - This guy does work in so many situations. Usually an auto-target in most metas, that just goes to show how powerful the effect is
- Return to Dust - Gives you options and can snag two cards for one. Considered a staple in some circles
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