Creeping Chill deals 3 damage to each opponent and you gain 3 life.
When Creeping Chill is put into your graveyard from your library, you may exile it. If you do, Creeping Chill deals 3 damage to each opponent and you gain 3 life.
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
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Creeping Chill Discussion
3 months ago
Lithelain Some interesting suggestions, the problem with Vengeful Strangler Flip is that they just sacrifice whatever you put the curse on. Accursed Witch Flip would work better but she is a bit more expensive at 4 CMC.
Combustible Gearhulk Is interesting but they can be a huge whiff at 6 mana if you hit lands, plus milling can rope you of much needed cards. For instance imagine if you accidently mill your needed board wipe or kill spell, especially if Killing Wave is your board wipe over Choice of Damnations as that would only do 1 damage.
Creeping Chill Would work much better in a self mill deck, something like dredge or surveil.
3 months ago
Hi, passing by to add my two cents as I found these cards that have similar mechanics:
Vengeful Strangler Flip: I like this one as it is an assured 2 hp each turn unless blocked (thus killed) and therefore attached to potentially some high value creature or planeswalker. Perhaps Basilica Screecher could be replaced/mixed with this.
9 months ago
Hi Saccox, I could not find any Jungle Hollow cards in my collection. It doesn't mean I don't have any, just means I couldn't find them. I am posting the decks on here as they are in real life and the way I play them. If I do find those hollow's at some point and add them, the deck here will reflect it.
I did look for Creeping Chill I do not own a copy, not sure how that is possible it being an uncommon. The next time I go to my LGS I will see if he has 4 copies and I can test it. I will add it to the maybe board and could be a strong sideboard card for certain matchups.
9 months ago
10 months ago
Ok, here's a little bit of analysis to consider. Break it up into some comments to read. These are opinions based on experience, playing and watching lots of commander content over the years, doesn't account for your specific playstyle or how you have fun playing commander which are certainly as important of decisions, as is card selection.
You are very low in the mana curve, 11 1-drop, 21 2-drop, 15 3-drop, 16 4-drop, and Orzhov () has lots of pips, but mana ramp is critical to getting your plan onboard as quickly as others, having mana available to advance board state/gain advantage and have interaction, and landing your larger threats sooner.
Sol Ring (CMC1 for 2 = +1 mana) is a must include.
Orzhov Signet I personally don't like (CMC3 for 1 = -2 mana) but also you're in which doesn't ramp as it's core strength.
Arcane Signet (CMC2 for 1 = -1 mana) is a must include, there are only a few archetypes I wouldn't play this in and usually only .
Talisman of Hierarchy (CMC2 for 1 = -1 mana) is a must include in .
I would start with that at least, some fringe ones I like are: Burnished Hart (creature/recursion), Commander's Sphere (draw), Mycosynth Wellspring (to hand, fringe), Pristine Talisman (lifegain, fringe), Solemn Simulacrum (ramp+draw!), The Birth of Meletis (doesn't help with , but ramp, 0/4 blocker, lifegain? it has it all!), Wayfarer's Bauble (ramp).
On a premise of battlecruiser/low/mid power 3-6 I DO NOT recommend these, but there are stronger options out there beyond 6: Phyrexian Altar (combo builds), Mana Vault , Mana Crypt , Chrome Mox , Smothering Tithe , Land Tax (Might not be bad in this build)
Honestly on a Avg. CMC 2.99 mana curve, I would likely have 10-12 ramp.
Some potential cuts for these:
Gorgon's Head you've got plenty of deathtouch already, it's not pairing with a Viridian Longbow strategy or anything, it's redundant, but also the worst. Easy cut. (We can get to Open the Armory / Steelshaper's Gift later)
Pierce Strider CMC4 for a 3/3 is just plain bad, the idea is play, do 3 damage, block/sac it, noone going to pay 3 to prevent it? but they will because it's going to do 3 anyway on return, and if your using recursion on this, your making the wrong play as it has no value engine on it. Easy cut.
Creeping Chill for CMC4 sorcery is not great, you're not playing a mill strategy so you're not really casting it for free often. It's not a strong play, we can find better ones, like ramping into Athreos, God of Passage sooner.
Font of Return for CMC6? Yikes. (CMC2+CMC4 for 3 creatures to hand is not great, we can get them on the battlefield for that high a CMC).
Angelic Gift hmm we have flyers, with deathtouch, it replaces itself (draw a card) but unless we flickering it ( Ephemerate or Brago, King Enternal something like that, it sets up easy 2-for-1 if an opponent has instand speed removal.
Topic: Lands! (Umm!)
Average Distribution Build: 38 lands
Average Budget Build: 36 lands
Average Expensive Build: 37 lands
Average Aristocrats Build: 35 lands
Average Reanimator Build: 31 lands (closer)
Your Build: 30 lands (Umm!)
No way you can run 30 lands, and 0 ramp in this deck. I wouldn't shuffle this deck with less than 33 lands, probably 34-36 if I'm playing enters tapped/utility lands. I might (maybe not) go to 33 lands with 9+ ramp spells, but even then, 34 would feel better.
Do you have a combo with Piranha Marsh like Worldgorger Dragon does, if not, just delaying yourself for little value (1 damage). Kabira Crossroads in this same bucket, it's just not work the tapped mana.
Let's be honest, lands SUCK, they are too expensive! Here is a list of lands you should look at:
Lands I don't suggest: Evolving Wilds / Terramorphic Expanse (<$1 fixed color), Scoured Barrens (<$1 fixed color), Isolated Chapel ($6, Not bad but not T1 land), Myriad Landscape (<$1, slow), Temple of Silence (<$1, scry/slow).
Have to head out, I'll review more topics and recs later, but here are some other cards can come out for mana. Gorgon Flail it's on theme and not bad, but let's get that Basilisk Collar or Quietus Spike instead. Soul Stair Expedition I would rather Animate Dead or Reanimate to the battlefield right away, not have to wait for lands (it still sacrifices itself). Not Forgotten we have better removal. Have to head out now! More later to read. :) If it's too much info, let me know!
1 year ago
sergiodelrio valid concerns. The deck is definitely sort of glass-canon, where when we decide to go off then yes we really need to win very quickly. There is one copy of Nexus of Fate so we at least survive another turn, and then you could potentially pitch it to Phantasmagorian to squeeze out one more. The deck should, however, win the same turn it combos. 4 Creeping Chill is 12 damage plus 4 hasty Vengevines adds up to 16 more damage that same turn, so 28 total. Luckily, all that damage can happen independent of the turn it flips :)
1 year ago
1 year ago
Nice deck idea! If I may suggest something. Maybe put some countermeasures in the main deck that deal with your opponent's spells. I know this is more focused on creating your own combos, but say your opponent is playing with a bunch of exile/bounce spells, or (for example) have their own Leyline of the Void. It also might be hard to come back from a massive boardwipe as well. You have a bit of card draw with Silversmote Ghoul, but besides that, you may end up just top-decking after your opponent obliterates the field.
There are some inconsistencies. See some of your cards get stronger in the late game while others get worse. Some cards are just really circumstantial. Hedron Crab is fun, you got fetch lands. But later in the game, when you've drawn all you could and played all your lands, he just sits there. Being able to flicker, bounce, and interact with your own lands would help his ability continue triggering even into the late game. Having lands that give you triggers would also work with this idea. Cards like Mystic Sanctuary would prove beneficial, especially if you had instants and sorceries that could counter and destroy your opponents spells, you could also search up Sanctuary with fetchlands at instant speed. Silversmote Ghoul is cool how it can revive itself, but you only have Creeping Chill to trigger that ability. So the Ghoul will eventually be stuck in the graveyard. Merfolk Secretkeeper is the most inconsistent though. the card only works once. That's it. You can't copy the ability, nor do you have any bounce spells or revival for the Keeper. So once it mills, that is it. If you mill it to the graveyard, it also does nothing.
Putting in some looting cards might be nice. That way you still get to put cards into your graveyard, but you get to choose what that will be. Cause you might lose important cards just by milling yourself.
Another option is putting in spells with flashback. That way you can still cast spells even when you got nothing in your hand. You have some creature revival abilities, but no instant/sorcery revival abilities.
So cards like Merfolk Looter would work. Cause you get consistent looting every turn (not just a one off). The looter would also work with Mystic Sanctuary pretty well. That way you don't have to wait a turn to draw the card.
If you went straight up looting/card draw you also could use cards like Jace's Erasure and target yourself. So both looting and mill. A bit slower, but more stable. and you could use cards like Broken Concentration to help with problematic enemy spells.
If you would rather go massive self-mill instead of slow and easy mill, I would suggest putting in a few cards that outright win you the game if you have no cards in your library. Like Laboratory Maniac. Also cards that get consistently more powerful with the amount of cards in your graveyard. Gnaw to the Bone can help you stay alive in the late game. Splinterfright, Mortivore, and Kraul Harpooner are nice cards that get better as the game goes on.
I hope I was helpful. Good luck with your deckbuilding!