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| Format | Legality |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Arena | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Gladiator | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Historic | Legal |
| Historic Brawl | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Modern | Legal |
| Modern Beyond Horizons | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Pauper | Legal |
| Pauper Duel Commander | Legal |
| Pauper EDH | Legal |
| Pioneer | Legal |
| Planar Constructed | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Tiny Leaders | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Ministrant of Obligation
Creature — Human Cleric
Afterlife 2 (When this creature dies, create two 1/1 white and black Spirit creature tokens with flying.)
Calum13395 on
Necronomicon | Teysa Karlov | Primer
1 year ago
The newly spoiled Indebted Spirit in MH3 looks like a slam dunk! Either is functions as a 1 drop token generating death trigger, or for 3 it doubles as a Ministrant of Obligation. Ocelot Pride seems like a powerhouse, but I imagine it's going to be pretty expensive...
Masterful on
Necronomicon | Teysa Karlov | Primer
1 year ago
jelwell Bartolome del Presidio is a good sac outlet, but we don't really need any more, and he's worse than any of our current ones. We already have a good amount of sacrifice plus lots of tutors to make sure we have them. We also only need one on board and multiples have no value. I think his real value is as a commander honestly. Always having access to a 2-mana sac outlet that gets super big like Carrion Feeder is an insanely strong utility.
Calum13395 I would say Hallowed Spiritkeeper is stronger overall because it can make a ton of tokens the turn it comes down, making it much better mid-lategame. Elenda's Hierophant seems better than Ministrant of Obligation though and could be in a future version of the deck if I want more 3-mana death triggers. I don't think it'll ever replace spiritkeeper though.
Masterful on
Necronomicon | Teysa Karlov | Primer
2 years ago
Foster_I_Am The broodmoth interaction isn't a consistent reason to run emissary, I meant it as more of a fun fact haha. Hallowed Spiritkeeper is good because its ceiling is high, but compared to other fodder pieces, its floor is low. In comparison, Sultai Emissary has a medium floor and ceiling. Crawling Chorus will definitely have a place instead of Ministrant of Obligation, but I'm still considering replacing emissary with spiritkeeper.
Masterful on
Necronomicon | Teysa Karlov | Primer
2 years ago
Foster_I_Amkirbysan Crawling Chorus is definitely a great new addition, even though it's a bit boring. Currently, I'm torn on replacing either sultai emissary, carrier thrall, or ministrant. Here's a breakdown of my thoughts:
- A manifest is not a token, so it triggers all our non-token death triggers, including Grim Haruspex, Midnight Reaper, Pawn of Ulamog, and Luminous Broodmoth. Not that it comes up super often, but manifests have a particularly interesting interaction with broodmoth. If any manifested permanent dies, like a land, it will come back with a flying counter.
- We can flip over the permanent if it's a creature, meaning manifested creatures are not only fodder but card draw. Because we have 35 creatures, Emissary will effectively draw us a card one third of the time.
- The downside is that he's 2 mana for a fodder creature, and the manifest doesn't die to Skullclamp.
- Tokens can sac themselves and provide mana. He effectively pays for himself with Teysa out.
- Both sides die to Skullclamp.
- Unfortunately 2 mana to play.
- With Teysa out, has 5 bodies for one instead of 3.
- 3 mana is even more unfortunate than 2.
Currently, I'm considering ministrant more heavily because of how inflexible 3 mana is. I was already thinking of replacing him for Hallowed Spiritkeeper because of more potential upside, so this might be the right time to replace.
cac1212 on
Teysa Karlov
3 years ago
Ok I messed up and can't edit my comment so I'll continue from where I left off:
...Of course all commander decks need some good card draw, and black gives us plenty of options. We have plenty of access to cards like Night's Whisper which is always good, but since we want to kill our creatures we generally prefer to opt for things like Village Rites or repeatable triggers (which Teysa doubles for extra value) like Midnight Reaper or Dark Prophecy. These will help us get to the pieces we need to win. If you start off a combo such as Reveillark + Karmic Guide (a well-known combo that many player will try to stop very quickly. Consider removing this if your opponents tell you that your degenerate deck is only played by beta cucks) with repeatable card draw on board, you'll run into what you need to win eventually.
I personally like to (or maybe need to) run LOTS of removal to make sure our opponents don't trample all over us before we can set up our finishing turns. Targeted removal is my drink of choice, but good board clears like Merciless Eviction (which unfortunately doesn't let our creatures die if we cant sac them all first) and Austere Command can be easily subbed in if you find yourself going against lots of wide boards.
We love our recursion in this deck. All of our petty fodder and nasty big-hitters like Kokusho, the Evening Star (a card that can be subbed out for a tutor for a more combo/high power deck. I decided to leave him to help cope with the loss of Yosei, the Morning Star . I just think they're neat!) and Vindictive Lich are practically begging to be brought back to life to once again experience the sweet touch of death. Killing our creatures once is good, killing them twice is better. Also, if one of your three essential components gets hit by removal early, your opponents with audibly moan when they come back later. Thus, take out some recursion if you become the one at the table who inspires fear and loating.
Combos
Our main combo that will win us the game every time it's out (even without Teysa) is Reveillark combined with Karmic Guide. If Reveillark is in your graveyard, put in karmic guide and bring it back, sac karmic guide, then sac reveilllark to bring back karmic guide, rinse and repeat. Of course, we need a sac outlet to kill our combo pieces and our Blood Artist-type cards or card draw death-triggers to get one out to make the most of this. Best of all, we have a tutor card, Final Parting, which tutors out BOTH of our combo pieces! Simply put reveillark in the grave and bring in karmic guide on the next turn, or the same turn if you have 10+ mana from all of our juicy ramp. As I said above, infinite combos are mean and unfun to play against, so be careful. This one at least needs 4 cards, none of which are our commander, to win the game so it's not nearly as bad as others, but if you need to take it out, don't worry! Teysa will still eek out massive value from all of our other cards and get you plenty of wins without tilting your playgroup. Other infinite combos not included in this deck include Nim Deathmantle + a token generator such as Ministrant of Obligation + Ashnod's Altar or alternatively Reassembling Skeleton + Phyrexian Altar + token death-trigger like Blight Mound. There are many variations of these which I won't go into depth here.
Early Game Strategy
In your opening hand, you ideally want to have a ramp spell or two (preferably a creature to be used as fodder later like Loyal Warhound), one or maybe two removal spells, some fodder, some card draw, and lands. We don't want too many basic plains in our hand or we'll stifle our creature ramp cards like Boreas Charger (keep in mind Knight of the White Orchid can tutor our double land Godless Shrine). We won't worry about board clears or heavy hitters until later. Hangarback Walker may not seem like a good opening card at first, but he can quickly become a big threat in the midgame if played on turn 2 (or turn one with sol ring) and used as a mana sink with his tap ability which adds a counter to him for one mana on future turns. Recursion we don't want at all until we start killing our creatures. Tutors can be good, but the tutors I have included in this deck (with the exception of Ranger of Eos who is great in our first hand) are more useful in the mid/late game since they either put things in our graveyard (Unmarked Grave) which requires we have recursion, give our opponents a tutor as well (Scheming Symmetry or Wishclaw Talisman), or scale off of how many lands we have (Beseech the Queen). We won't be needing a sac outlet until later and we can be reasonably sure well run into one eventually if we have card draw; if not we can always use our small sacs like Phyrexian Tower to suffice in the mean time. Our protection spells can come in handy, but only keep these if we have our other good early game cards in hand.
Mid Game
In the mid game phases (~turns 4-6), don't get too hasty and play Teysa early if you have something else that is part of our 3 essential components (fodder, sac outlet, blood artist-type) which you don't already have on the board. It's often advantageous to instead opt for more card draw or removal on these turns to prolong our window of opportunity to pop off our game winning turns instead of playing Teysa before she is needed. Even though she does double the value of nearly everything we do, we dont necessarily need her on board to win, and we really only need her on the turn or two before our winning turn.
Late Game
All that's left to do once we have our three basic components is to start getting out as many token makers as we can to start reaping what we have sewn. Ideally we want repeatable card draw and recursion to draw into more and more creatures that we can sac on every turn. Even without our infinite combo we can do massive damage just with our tokens and by bringing back our creatures. Graveyard hate from our opponents can really hurt us, but with any luck we can out-pace our opponents with our ramp/card draw.
Miscellaneous Mechanics
If you're about to have something exiled, sac it! Let no fodder go to waste. You can also sac a creature as it is about to take combat damage after blockers are assigned without having any damage go through to you.
Brought Back can be used on our fetch land Marsh Flats for extra ramp. Consider adding more fetch lands to up the power level a bit.
Closing Notes
Have fun with Teysa! Add your own spin to things and let me know what card you love/hate. This deck is still in developement and will be changing bit by bit in the future. If you have any questions, let me know in the comments and I'll do my best to get to them. This is my first deck that I've posted on any platform and I'm excited to see what y'all think!
Masterful on
Necronomicon | Teysa Karlov | Primer
3 years ago
Xxtormundxx Secure the Wastes and Increasing Devotion are usually too much mana. Cards like Doomed Traveler give us fodder for mana at a 2-1 rate, or 3-1 with Teysa out. Having to tap out just to play some fodder on turn 4 or 5 is tough when its not protected against boardwipes. Making fodder from creatures with Pawn of Ulamog or Elenda, the Dusk Rose tends to be more mana efficient than paying a bunch of mana for upfront tokens. Teysa also doesn't double them. They're definitely not that bad if you want to play them, I just prefer cheaper cards. If you want more fodder for 1 card, try Ministrant of Obligation.
Housegheist on
Divine Machinations (Cleric Tribal)
3 years ago
Could Priest of Forgotten Gods, Demon's Disciple or Ministrant of Obligation help?
multimedia on
Teysa Tokens
3 years ago
Hey, well done with your version of Teysa.
Consider Mimic Vat? It has lots of uses in multiplayer Commander because it can imprint an opponent's creature who died. Best of all it's a repeatable effect to create a creature token and you can change which creature is imprinted as long as the creature died.
Imprint your own creature who has a good dies effect such as Archon of Justice. Add a sac outlet such as Viscera Seer to sac the token before the next end step and control Teysa to repeatedly exile two permanents when the Archon token dies.
Consider Priest of Forgotten Gods and Skirsdag High Priest? These Priests are in my opinion underrated in multiplayer Commander since they're two drops who's if you get to tap them can take over a game with tokens. Skirsdag can be activated when any creature dies that gives it a lot uses in multiplayer. Teysa gives tokens vigilance, flying tokens can attack, then if they need to block, then be tapped to activate Skirsdag.
Imprint Ministrant of Obligation with Mimic Vat to then for three mana fuel Forgotten which then fuels Skirsdag and repeat.
- Mimic Vat --> Promise of Tomorrow
- Archon of Justice --> Squad Captain
- Viscera Seer --> Ninth Bridge Patrol
- Priest of Forgotten Gods --> Nadier, Agent of the Duskenel
- Skirsdag High Priest --> Righteousness
Good luck with your deck.
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