Dreamstone Hedron

Artifact

{T}: Add {C}{C}{C}.

{3}, {T}, Sacrifice Dreamstone Hedron: Draw three cards.

Combos

• Dreamstone Hedron + Dross Scorpion + Pentavus

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (50)

DreadKhan on Colorless

1 month ago

If you find you get wiped a lot, the first things you'd want are lots of land and ramp, so you can keep recasting your Commander. You've already got 40 lands, so that's probably fine. The next thing that helps vs wipes is card draw, wipes are really bad if the opponent can just play more creatures on their next turn. Maybe Hedron Archive and Dreamstone Hedron could do some work? You mostly want them for the ramp, but the ability to just draw some cards later on can be pretty clutch (I wouldn't use them in a deck with colours at this point, but in colourless I feel less absurd recommending them).

I don't have a dedicated colourless deck (even my Eldrazi are in a Gruul deck), but if you want to sneak more card draw in here, I know of Tome of Legends (very good as you both need to get your Commander out while also needing to swing), Hylda's Crown of Winter (probably the best thing I'm going to mention), Mind's Eye (a famously 'meh' card in any deck with colours, maybe better in here), Fountainport (draw or make a token seems fine?), Skullclamp (this is mostly for when you don't have your Commander and need to dig for cards, but if you do you can throw it on your Commander and as long as they actually kill Graaz you get 2 cards out of it), Marketback Walker (the idea is you play it for a bunch of mana, Graaz gives it +5/+3 (even if you cast if for 0 mana), and when it dies it refills your hand), All-Fates Scroll (I'm not sure if this is too weird, but you're already on Field of the Dead), The Deck of Many Things (it's a lot less risky if you aren't good at drawing extra cards), and finally Ugin, the Ineffable (not a great card, but it makes blockers that give you a card when they die, and it can kill something when it comes out. If you can keep Ugin alive you'd be able to play Graaz the next turn). Some of those wouldn't be good in a deck with access to colours, some I find I play in one or two colour decks.

If you like using Flash, there is Emergence Zone, which can be much sneakier than something that sits there working like Vedalken Orrery. It's one and done, not sure if that works for you.

Oh yeah, just thought of them, but you could protect your Commander from certain wipes with stuff like Mithril Coat, Darksteel Plate, and Tyrite Sanctum, the best is Coat, by a country mile. If people know Graaz isn't going to die maybe they don't wipe? Oh, just thought of it but Darksteel Myr might actually work in here, it's a 5/3 Indestructible when your Commander is out, and it's a blocker when he's not I guess? Sucks if everyone has Trample, or if everyone runs Farewell in your area!

DemonDragonJ on Which is More Important: Total …

8 months ago

I often wonder which is more important for a card: its overall cost or its cost-to-effect ratio (i.e., its mana efficiency); for example, there is no question that Lightning Bolt is superior to both Shock and Searing Spear, but, between the other two cards, I would choose Shock over Searing Spear in the majority of situations, because Shock has a ratio of 2 damage for 1 mana, whereas Searing Spear has a ratio of 1.5 damage for 1 mana.

For a slightly more complicated example, compare Eladamri's Call to Shared Summons; the former card can find a creature for a mere 2 mana, which is very efficient, but it simply replaces one card in its controller's hand with another, whereas the latter card can search for two creatures, which leaves its caster with an additional card in hand, compared to before it is cast, but it is less efficient, costing 2.5 mana per creature found, so it is not as clear which card is superior, there.

Opportunity is literally a double version of Quick Study, as they both have the same ratio of cost to effect, but which is the superior card? Is it really better to spend six mana to draw four cards, as doing that would leave the caster with less mana to cast the spells that they draw? Also, Quick Study is strictly better than is Inspiration, as it costs 1 less mana to cast, but, between Concentrate and Tidings, I am not certain which is superior, since they both allow a player to draw one less card than their mana values.

On the subject of card drawing, in the realm of repeatable card drawing, Arcane Encyclopedia is strictly better than is Jayemdae Tome, as it costs only 3 mana to draw a single card, compared to 4, but Tower of Fortunes can draw four cards for 8 mana, which is a ratio of 2 mana per card, but that ability costs 8 mana, overall, so the question is if it is worth 8 mana to draw four cards.

Continuing that theme, there are numerous creatures (and one enchantment) that allow a player to repeatedly draw cards, such as Azure Mage, Spectral Sailor, Faerie Mastermind, Triskaidekaphile, or Treasure Trove, a ratio of 4 mana for one card, but Mystic Archaeologist can draw 2 two cards for 5 mana, a ratio of 2.5 mana per card, which is definitely far superior, in my mind.

Hedron Archive is literally two Mind Stones put together, and Dreamstone Hedron is literally a triple Mind Stone, so they all have the same cost-to-effect ratio, but I prefer the original Mind Stone, since the existence of Thran Dynamo and Gilded Lotus makes it difficult to justify using the other mana rocks, at least, for me.

To use the example of Skyward Eye Prophets, a 1/1 creature for 2 mana is perfectly acceptable, a 2/2 creature for 4 mana is slightly expensive, but nothing outrageous, but a 3/3 creature for 6 mana is simply too much, although, as a side note, I have a copy of that creature, in one of my decks, because I really like its ability.

For a further example, I would choose Mantis Rider over Lightning Angel in the majority of situations, since it provides a better rate than does the angel, and, similarly, I would choose Wilt-Leaf Cavaliers over Vernadi Shieldmate, since the former creature is more efficient for its cost.

I believe that I have provided a sufficient number of examples, for this discussion, so which trait do you believe is more important: overall mana cost or cost-to-effect ratio/mana efficiency? I certainly am interested to hear your thoughts on this matter.

enrico81 on ♫ ♪ Grey grey, my world is grey ♫ ♪

1 year ago

Replaced Dreamstone Hedron with Palantir of Orthanc to increase the draw source and to manage the top deck.

McDeity on Eldrazi and Artifacts

2 years ago

To both empty your hand faster and ramp to the titans, you might go extra heavy on the ramp.
"Freebies" Mana Crypt Mana Vault Sol Ring

Two drops Everflowing Chalice Coldsteel Heart Fellwar Stone Prismatic Lens Obsidian Obelisk Ebony Fly Fractured Powerstone Guardian Idol Liquimetal Torque Mind Stone Planar Atlas Thought Vessel The Irencrag

Three drops Basalt Monolith Metalworker Palladium Myr Worn Powerstone

Four drops Hedron Archive Ichor Elixir Sisay's Ring Stonespeaker Crystal Thran Dynamo Ur-Golem's Eye Firemind Vessel

Fives or Higher Gilded Lotus Dreamstone Hedron Chromatic Orrery

Weirder ones Blinkmoth Urn Foundry Inspector Metalworker Forsaken Monument

Rocketman988 on Demon Till Your Dreams Come True

2 years ago

77hi77, it makes me so excited to hear that you've caught the Rakdos bug and that my decklist and primer has helped inspire you to make Rakdos your own! You've made my day. He's such an unconventional powerhouse, and it's fun to watch players' faces when they realize the game state has suddenly shifted against them dramatically.

Your comment got me thinking about how to best verbalize the theory behind the deck, and when I began typing my response, I realized I had a lot more to say on the topic of "how the deck doesn't fall behind" when it attacks with Rakdos than I thought I would. So instead of replying with a book of text in the comments here, I created a new section in the primer called "Rakdos Game Theory". If you give it a read through, it should help you understand how I've attempted to solve the issue of how to survive attacking that you commented about.

I'd love to hear more about the direction you're taking your deck, but if you're not ready to share yet, send me a link to your deck when you are! The basics of not falling behind when you attack with Rakdos are mana density, card efficiency, and resource denial. If you want to build Rakdos on a budget, you'll want effects that packs as much mana onto each permanent as possible. Think Gilded Lotus, Everflowing Chalice, Chromatic Orrery, Sceptre of Eternal Glory, Dreamstone Hedron, Nyx Lotus, Rakdos Carnarium, Everglades, Dormant Volcano, stuff like that. That way, sacrificing hurts less because the bulk of your mana stays on a single permanent. Token producers like Wand of Orcus and Abhorrent Overlord are also excellent so that you can sacrifice the free value permanents instead of critical resources. Finally, play symmetrical table hate pieces like Pox, Shadowgrange Archfiend, Tectonic Hellion, Death Cloud, Insurrection, and Curse of the Cabal to keep everyone low on resources like you are. If you can afford them, the trio of It That Betrays, Tergrid, God of Fright  ^Flip, and The Reaver Cleaver are in my opinion mandatory in any list that wants to prioritize attacking with Rakdos.

Local_Hethen on Drafna EDH

2 years ago

Looks like a good start. Here some of my thoughts after a quick glance.

Remove Arcane Signet, it's mono-color. I know, you're thinking more mana with the Unwinding Clock, but if that's the case go with Sol Talisman, Dreamstone Hedron, Thran Dynamo, or Hedron Archive.

Remove the 5 CMC counters and go with the simple Counterspell or Cancel instead. You might be waiting for niche moments with the current counters.

I don't see much use for Training Grounds with the creatures you're running, or at least enough to warrant it.

Can't wait to see what you decide to do!

Phaeophyta on Steal Yo Girl for Connor

3 years ago

Dreamstone Hedron Sky Diamond Charcoal Diamond Ebony Fly Prismatic Lens Everflowing Chalice Predict Giant's Amulet Curator's Ward Sphinx of the Second Sun Displacement Wave Dismal Backwater Temple of the False God Replicating Ring Dimir Locket Temple of Deceit

Decrepit_Angel on [Primer] Colored Mana is for the Weak

3 years ago

Profet93 Thanks for the recommendations.

I have messed around with Mystic Forge and it's associated combo a bit but I ended up cutting Sensei's Divining Top as I felt that it was unnecessary more often than not and not having ways to shuffle consistently made it way worse if I didn't have a way to go infinite with it. I mighy try Mystic Forge again but I felt that it was too slow in my testing. cEDH nowadays has the "turn 3 rule" where you need to be threatening a win or overwhelming advantage by turn 3 consistently by turn 3 if you want to be relevant. From my testing, cutting a lot of the random value pieces for extra ramp has allowed for a lot more turn 2 or 3 Eldrazi Titans and a lot more success against cEDH decks.

Manascape Refractor has been very good in testing. Mishra's Workshop is my personal favorite but it also copies Inventors' Fair pretty frequently. Ancient Tomb or City of Traitors makes it into a Worn Powerstone (which I already run). Bazaar of Baghdad and Eye of Ugin are useful as well, especially when I have access to Unwinding Clock and can repeatedly activate a random tech land every turn. At one point, this deck ran Candelabra of Tawnos as a way to repeatedly use tech lands but I would argue that Manascape Refractor is a much better way to accomplish that. High Market, Homeward Path, etc. are also surprisingly useful. On that topic, using it as a High Market with access to infinite mana through Rings of Brighthearth + Voltaic Key + Chromatic Orrery (also gives infinite untaps of all artifacts) allowed me to win once as I didn't have access to a different way to sacrifice and recast Kozilek, Butcher of Truth.

I had no idea that Soul-Guide Lantern even existed. I'm not sure if I would call it a strict upgrade to Relic of Progenitus but it is definitely good. I might swap out Tormod's Crypt for it so that all of my graveyard hate can be cycled if it isn't relevant.

Regarding the Metalworker combo, a lot of the primer is outdated. I tried updating it a few times but I ended up changing out 20ish cards so I figured I would wait until I had a pretty stable list to update it. The Metalworker combo is absolutely a backup option though. Typically by the time I would go for that combo, I would have access to casting Kozilek. As for Field of the Dead, I am not a fan of tap lands and roughly 1 out of every 20 games with this deck would even go long enough to get to 7 lands for it's ability to be relevant. I think Field of the Dead would be good in a casual meta but I try to play this at cEDH tables as this deck is ridiculously unfair to play at casual tables.

Reliquary Tower is a good budget option but it might as well be a Wastes with the way the deck runs most games. I typically mulligan for some form of acceleration and try to immediately get to 10 mana which usually empties my hand. Kozilek will get me a new hand, but very rarely will I pass with more than 7 cards in hand, and if I do, I haven't had the scenario yet where I had to ditch anything useful.

The main form of drawing power in the deck is my commander. Mikokoro, Center of the Sea, War Room, Ugin, the Ineffable, sacrificing Mind Stone, Hedron Archive, or Dreamstone Hedron are the only other ones I have for card advantage. This deck is basically an all or nothing deck intent on playing really early Eldrazi Titans, going infinite, or playing stax to slow everyone else down (usually some combination of the 3). As colorless does not have access to particularly great interaction, I have tuned the deck to be about as fast as physically possible. Most games I am able to cast Kozilek, Butcher of Truth on turn 3 or earlier (admittedly almost always at least 1 mulligan for fast mana). Although some times people will have answers, that early in the game is enough to cause problems for most decks. The plan from there is to either just kill my oponents or do as you said where I cast Kozilek, draw some cards, ramp some more, and repeat. Although the situation will occasionally show up where the game goes long, this deck absolutely shines when it is doing terrifying things really early.

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.