Tectonic Hellion

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Tectonic Hellion

Creature — Hellion

Haste

Whenever Tectonic Hellion attacks, each player who controls the most lands sacrifices two lands.

Rocketman988 on Demon Till Your Dreams Come True

8 months ago

77hi77, it makes me so excited to hear that you've caught the Rakdos bug and that my decklist and primer has helped inspire you to make Rakdos your own! You've made my day. He's such an unconventional powerhouse, and it's fun to watch players' faces when they realize the game state has suddenly shifted against them dramatically.

Your comment got me thinking about how to best verbalize the theory behind the deck, and when I began typing my response, I realized I had a lot more to say on the topic of "how the deck doesn't fall behind" when it attacks with Rakdos than I thought I would. So instead of replying with a book of text in the comments here, I created a new section in the primer called "Rakdos Game Theory". If you give it a read through, it should help you understand how I've attempted to solve the issue of how to survive attacking that you commented about.

I'd love to hear more about the direction you're taking your deck, but if you're not ready to share yet, send me a link to your deck when you are! The basics of not falling behind when you attack with Rakdos are mana density, card efficiency, and resource denial. If you want to build Rakdos on a budget, you'll want effects that packs as much mana onto each permanent as possible. Think Gilded Lotus, Everflowing Chalice, Chromatic Orrery, Sceptre of Eternal Glory, Dreamstone Hedron, Nyx Lotus, Rakdos Carnarium, Everglades, Dormant Volcano, stuff like that. That way, sacrificing hurts less because the bulk of your mana stays on a single permanent. Token producers like Wand of Orcus and Abhorrent Overlord are also excellent so that you can sacrifice the free value permanents instead of critical resources. Finally, play symmetrical table hate pieces like Pox, Shadowgrange Archfiend, Tectonic Hellion, Death Cloud, Insurrection, and Curse of the Cabal to keep everyone low on resources like you are. If you can afford them, the trio of It That Betrays, Tergrid, God of Fright  Flip, and The Reaver Cleaver are in my opinion mandatory in any list that wants to prioritize attacking with Rakdos.

Beebles on Mono White Ramp/Draw

2 years ago

Yeah. I also hope we see more cards like welcoming vampire. Or that they find additional ways for white to draw.

As for green being too good at ramp and the social contract preventing MLD, I would love Wizards to print white versions of Natural Balance or similar (without getting into Global Ruin or Balancing Act territory). I think that card is a pretty good way to keep land ramp decks check while not totally wrecking games. I also liked Strict Proctor as a fair way to punish landfall decks without completely stopping them. Tectonic Hellion was an underwhelming attempt, but if they would staple such effects on cards that people will run for other reasons, we might start to get some more useful tools.

colinboyden on Primal Genesis

2 years ago

Replacing Commander's Insignia with Mirari's Wake Replacing Tectonic Hellion with Armada Wurm Replacing Scaretiller with Rampant Growth Replacing Voice of Many with Garruk's Uprising Replacing Cliffside Rescuer with Swiftfoot Boots Replace Roc egg with one of these ghoofprints of the stag, luminarch ascension, moonsilver spear,seraphic greatsword, serra the benevolent, starnheim unleashed,

LegendaryWurm on Godzilla vs The World

3 years ago

Tectonic Hellion removed. Apex Devastator put in its place. Didn't really like the land destruction anyway

Rorolith on i have no idea what im doing

3 years ago

You don't want your game to be ruined because someone countered/destroyed the creature that you ramped into. Cut Cone of Flame ,add Lightning Bolt .Cone of Flame doesn't do much, but Lightning Bolt it is much cheaper and can deal with early threats while you try to get things together. cut Magmatic Insight and add Thrill of Possibility maybe, play around with it. Cut Flameblast Dragon and 1x Tectonic Hellion to add 3x Irencrag Feat . Cut Coal Stoker add Simian Spirit Guide , this will allow you to get your combo together as early as turn 1 if you are lucky and draw 2 of them, or turn 2 more consistently.

Reason for cutting Flameblast Dragon : You are trying to cast a big creature as early as possible,so with Flameblast Dragon, once you get it out, you will not have much mana to pour into its ability, so it will generally be a 5/5 flyer that might do 1-2 damage.

multimedia on conclave Exile

3 years ago

Hey, you're welcome.

Something to worry about is there's 23 cards here that are 5 CMC or higher which is lot. You risk with only 31 lands and few ramp sources not being able to cast spells. The Devoted + Vizer combo is nice, but can be difficult to assemble in Commander as one ofs and you're kind of relying on the combo too much. My advice is trim the high CMC creature base for some low CMC tutors that can search for the better creatures and cut the majority of the cards that create little creature tokens for more ramp and lands.

Some cards to consider cutting:

These three are the least good cards as they don't do enough to warrant taking a card slot. Navigator's Compass is not ramp, it's only color fixing for one land, but you can get both ramp and color fixing with a two drop mana rock or better yet Faeburrow Elder. Wake the Reflections is fine since it's a one drop spell, but is not really needed because you can get repeatable populate from better sources. Could cut it for Garruk's Uprising which will have much more overall impact in a game.

These four are the least good of the creatures and they could be cut for more tutors that can search for the better creatures or other cards.

Making 1/1 creature tokens to populate is not taking enough advantage of populate. All these cards could be cut for more lands and ramp to consistently be able to cast many high CMC cards. The exceptions can be Assemble the Legion, Dragon Broodmother, March of the Multitudes and Elspeth, Sun's Champion, but these are good cards for effects that create lots of 1/1 tokens, that's better especially with Purphoros/Terror and March with Devoted + Vizer combo.


Something to think about for futures upgrades is how can you make Ghired better? Technically all you need is Ghired because he's an army in a can since he creates the 4/4 Rhino token to populate. Protecting Ghired and the Rhino is important and making it safe to attack. Attacking is what makes Ghired good therefore the more attacking you can do the better. Aurelia, the Warleader is the right idea, but you can expand on the multiple combat steps idea much more including infinite attacks.

My suggestion of Garruk's Uprising gives you another repeatable draw source by populating or creating big creature tokens other ways. More draw is area to expand on especially cards that let you draw when creatures attack or do combat damage. Included in the Ghired Commander precon are such cards you should consider adding.

Eternaldark866 on Mayael’s Overwhelming Stampede

3 years ago

Recommended additions and reasoning:

Mirari's Wake, Mana Reflection: These come at cheaper mana costs than your Zendikar Resurgent. Drawing a card on the Resurgent is good, but not good enough, since you have to cast the creature. While you likely will have enough mana to do so, it is going to be less common than cheating out the creatures. Additionally, Mana Reflection will work with all permanents, not just land. So your creature and artifact mana will double as well.

Strionic Resonator, Rings of Brighthearth: This lets you copy Mayael's ability. Digging 15 cards for 3 creatures is better than 5 cards for 1...

Exploration, Oracle of Mul Daya, Bloom Tender: all phenomenal sources of ramp. Highly recommend Oracle for the ability to remove land fromt he top of your deck, allowing you to dig that one card deeper... where you will find...

Kozilek, Butcher of Truth: Even if you aren't casting Kozi, you get a massive beater with Annihilator, and as a huge bonus, he helps recycle your graveyard in the event of a board wipe. Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, Gaea's Cradle: You run a ton of green permanents, and if you take the Mana Reflections from earlier, you double the number of green you get from it. It is a really cool way to generate a ton of mana super quickly. about the Cradle, creature heavy decks can always benefit from it, and again... Mana Reflections doubles it.

Warstorm Surge, Stalking Vengeance: 2 enchantments that give you free damage that you can use as removal for opponent's creatures or nukes to the face. Additionally, fun interaction with the surge and the Blightsteel Colossus I also recommend, the Surge says the creature deals the damage... unblockable 11 infect shoots someone out of the game.

Panharmonicon: In a deck with a ton of creature based ETB effects, this artifact is a must. With the Surge from earlier out, now you get 2 of those triggers.... Eternal Witness: Phenomenal recursion, and can save you by getting back something you need from the graveyard.

Genesis Wave: Now that we have you pumping mana out like a pro, Genesis Wave for 40, and watch as a large amount of unnecessarily large creatures enter the battlefield and turn them sideways because you have...

Urabrask the Hidden: Yeah that's right, get that haste, and if someone tries to flash in a blocker it's useless.

Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Sigarda, Host of Herons, Privileged Position, Vigor: Because nothing says "fun" like having a boardstate that is hard to remove. Additionally, damage to your creatures makes them bigger. Thank you, Vigor.

Craterhoof Behemoth: You play this with 10+ creatures on the board, and you have an automatic 100 damage added to your total.

Tooth and Nail, Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, Zealous Conscripts: This is an infinite combo as well as the tutor to get it. Tap Kiki, copy the conscripts, use the new copy's trigger to target Kiki, untap Kiki. Tap Kiki, copy the conscripts... Create infinite Zealous Conscripts to attack everyone for yes damage.

Gisela, Blade of Goldnight: Amazing for both extra damage and protection.

Vedalken Orrery: Because playing on your opponent's turn is funny. And your Seedborn Muse really gets to put in work in a 4 player game, on top of the Mayael useage.

Vexing Shusher: Because nobody likes blue. This card is a big middle finger to blue.

Lurking Predators: So your opponent wants to cast things? Maybe you get a free creature for it. Can be quite useful.

Recommended cuts and the reasoning:

Desolation Twin,Krosan Tusker: They don't do enough to better your boardstate in my opinion. Desolation Twin is a 10/10 sure, but other than that, nothing. Chances are, you won't be casting it that much to get the second 10/10 anyways. The Tuskar only benefits you if you cycle it, otherwise it is just a mediocre creature. Additionally, cycling it only gets a basic land, of which you are running very few. This is not a criticism of your land base. I didn't want to touch it too much because my own landbase is significantly more expensive.

Gigantosaurus, Woolly Thoctar: These are just vanilla big creatures, which isn't too bad on it's own, but I like to have creatures that actually DO something more than sit there and look pretty.

Pathbreaker Wurm, Tectonic Hellion, Tyrant of Discord: These guys are all decent, but the Pathbreaker only helps one other creature. The Hellion is cool, but what if you have the most lands? You aren't running Crucible of Worlds, but your opponents might be. the Tyrant is more of a personal preference, I don't like it because of it's random factor.

Rith's Grove: It is a bounce land, without the benefit of tapping for 2 mana like the dual color bounce lands. Not worth running in my opinion.

Pure / Simple: This card is too restrictive. Running the Krosan Grip, Swords to Plowshares, and Path to Exile are all better options. They don't force you to choose multicolor creature, or equipment or aura. They just remove a target.

Tragic Arrogance: I love boardwipes as much as the next guy, but this hits you just as hard as your opponents, and instead of using Invincibility to get through it, you have to sacrifice. Wrath of God would be a much better option in my opinion.

Emerald Medallion, Ruby Medallion: In my opinion, these guys are less useful since you are trying, for the most part, to cheat everything out.

Firemind Vessel, Firewild Borderpost, Wildfield Borderpost: While mana rocks are good, I feel that these guys are far too slow to be running.

Rith's Charm: To me it doesn't do enough by itself to warrant keeping. You have little to no ways of getting it back or making more uses of it, so it is a 1 shot item. I'm sure by now you have noticed I prefer things that have multiple and recurring uses.

Overall, I love it. I love Mayael, and she has been my strongest and favorite deck for a very long time (2012). My current version relies very little on her ability, because I played with a bunch of rather rude people that played Pithing Needle and named her all the time. It was not fun, but building my deck to use her ability as an option, instead of a strategy, changed the way I used her, meaning that the needle no longer leaves my deck dead in the water.

Please keep in mind that my recommendations are just that. if that Gigantosaurus doesn't do anything, but you like it because it's a dinosaur, and you don't want to cut it, you do not have to. I unfortunately gave up all my dreams of having cards I like for flavor, aesthetics, etc, because I decided to build my deck to compete and even stomp on combo and control decks. I have no room for cards that don't serve to better my boardstate as a whole.

Final Note: I will be more than happy to provide further insight and feedback if you have any other questions.

multimedia on

4 years ago

Hey, you're welcome :)

What's the max budget you have to make card upgrades? When you finish making upgrades what price range can you have for total deck cost? The precon for example at $60 is low and I would hope you could afford at least $50 for upgrades. If you can afford more expensive price cards then my card suggestions will be different then if you can't. Smothering Tithe and Birds of Paradise for example are very good cards for ramp, but they might be too expensive for the budget.

What advice about upgrades would you like?

Some cards from the precon that can be cut since they're not as good as others or don't have good enough synergy with Ghired:

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