Creature — Plant
Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, put a +1/+1 counter on Vinelasher Kudzu.
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Vinelasher Kudzu Discussion
1 week ago
Crafting your decklist with the evolve mechanic in mind is a great take on a Simic EDH deck. However, since Ezuri is very much a build-around-me commander, there are some specific questions you need to ask yourself for each and every card:
Question #1: Does it not also benefit from, but also synergize with, +1/+1 counters?
Technically, the evolve mechanic is counterintuitive to Ezuri's +1/+1 counter-stacking ability, but cards like Experiment One, Gyre Sage, and Simic Manipulator who have counter-related abilities benefit from the extra boost. Other cards that have silly combinations with +1/+1 counters are Sage of Hours (obviously), Fathom Mage, Mycoloth, Champion of Lambholt, Forgotten Ancient, Chasm Skulker, and Crystalline Crawler.
Question #2: If it has power 2 or less, does it have a relevant ability?
Just because it can trigger Ezuri's ability doesn't necessarily mean the card is fit for EDH. If it's an evolve creature, keep it for your deck's theme, especially if it has a powerful ability. Card considerations in this category would be Cold-Eyed Selkie, Hornet Queen, Blighted Agent, Mulldrifter, Vorel of the Hull Clade, Eternal Witness, Coiling Oracle, Trygon Predator, Mystic Snake, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Solemn Simulacrum, Reclamation Sage, and Thrasios, Triton Hero.
Underpowered cards to cut:Beetleform Mage, Bond Beetle, Frilled Oculus, Mist Intruder, Nimbus Swimmer, Palace Familiar, Reverent Hunter, Sandsteppe Scavenger, Scourge of Skola Vale, Sidisi's Faithful, Verdurous Gearhulk, Vinelasher Kudzu, Dromoka's Gift, Hydroform, Lead by Example, Unnatural Aggression, Slip Through Space, Bonds of Mortality, Retreat to Coralhelm, Cranial Archive, and Verdant Haven.
Beetleform and Oculus's abilities aren't relevant enough to keep, Reverent Hunter and Kudzu both suffer from the problem of vanilla big creatures that don't really synergize with Ezuri, Mist Intruder isn't good in traditionally multiplayer EDH, Swimmer and Scavenger are too expensive, Beetle is cute but doesn't do enough, Palace Familiar might be worth keeping if you absolutely need card draw, but it's pretty weak otherwise, and Sidisi's Faithful is too slow and bad in multiplayer. Skola Vale uses +1/+1 counters, but it's not terribly good. I ran Gearhulk in my decklist for a short period of time, but if you aren't running proliferation or ways to make the spreading out of the counters relevant, it's not worth it. Dromoka's Gift is too expensive for its lack of control, Lead by Example is too weak, Hydroform makes a land vulnerable to removal for a turn, Unnatural Aggression is too expensive, Slip and Bonds are alright but there are more powerful options (Aqueous Form and Arcane Lighthouse), Retreat doesn't help your gameplan, Cranial Archive should only be played if there is a mill or graveyard deck in your meta, and Verdant Haven is outclassed by better cards (Utopia Sprawl/Fertile Ground).
Powerful cards to add:Cold-Eyed Selkie, Mycoloth, Champion of Lambholt, Gyre Sage, Oran-Rief, the Vastwood, Hornet Queen, Blighted Agent, Mosswort Bridge, Forgotten Ancient, Mulldrifter, Eternal Witness, Trygon Predator, Prime Speaker Zegana, Mystic Snake, Swiftfoot Boots, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Simic Signet, Krosan Grip, Solemn Simulacrum, Chasm Skulker, Kodama's Reach, and Reclamation Sage.
1 month ago
other options include:Aquastrand Spider, Bond Beetle, Chronomaton, Clockwork Beetle, Cosi's Trickster, Experiment One, Kavu Predator (SB), Mistcutter Hydra (SB), Mold Adder (SB), Nurturer Initiate, Primordial Hydra, Protean Hydra, Quirion Dryad, Scavenging Ooze (SB or Main), Shape Stealer (super goofy with +1/+1 counters), Slitherhead, Vastwood Hydra, Vinelasher Kudzu
if you decide to go down the "hydra" road, i would recommend Gyre Sage for added mana production/sink value.
1 month ago
1 month ago
Beebles Hi, and thanks for checking in :)
Scute Mob gets +4+4 every upkeep, not just once, so it becomes quite massive if not dealt with. However it requires me to have Nylea in game or it won't have trample, so I've been thinking of cutting it all the same. Same goes for Vinelasher Kudzu. I can use these two slots to get some more 2 drop ramp that will help easy into 5 mana.
Regarding the mana curve, I have to say that once Karametra is out (5 mana) mana is never ever a problem again unless I have some severe bad luck. But getting to 5 faster is always nice ;)
Triggering Karametra more often is really not needed. I've multiple times now actually exhausted all my lands in the deck 0.o. Running 37 creatures means I don't need any specific creatures to enable recursion for Karametra triggers. If it ever feels like it becomes a problem however I will put Cloudstone Curio in :)
I know tutors are fairly common in EDH, but I really don't like playing with them. For me, they destroy the concept of EDH. I do think I might get some more removal on a stick though, World breaker seems very nice for that, and Duplicant is also very good. Bane of Progress is one of my favorite cards, but unfortunately I run quite a high amount of enchantments myself in this deck. I actually had him in, in version one of this deck, but I found him sitting on my hand more often than not because I didn't wanna destroy my own stuff.
Some sort of GY-removal is always good to have I suppose, I've been thinking about it too... I need to figure out what to cut for it though.
I really appreciate the time and advice you spent on me. Thanks a bunch! :)
1 month ago
Haha yeah you're right about Bower Passage, it means flyers can't get in your forest and have to go over it lol, literally the opposite of my reasoning for it! Still, should you find yourself against lots of flying decks... Or, just pop it in the bin lol.
Traverse the Ulvenwald doesn't ramp, it's just there for draw. As you say though, you only really want it if you did go down the delirium route.
You have a couple of fair sized guys, if you do run a couple more then Fungal Sprouting becomes a fun two of, instant forest. It's annoying that saprolings aren't plants, because I'd love to run it alongside Avenger of Zendikar, but the avenger cares not for saprolings.
If you're looking to add, then the cards I'm immediately not excited by are; Traproot Kami, Yew Spirit, Vinelasher Kudzu, and Unchecked Growth. I know you like your spirits there, so if you aren'y keen on that you could always cut the defender element of the deck. It would allow you to play a more varied game, and would make a nice amount of space as well.
2 months ago
Seems to be a fun deck. I have a similar one (Untamed Wilds) and am trying to improve it by seeing what other people are doing. I think there are some cards in mine that you could really use, and vice versa.
2 months ago
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I would also use more forests, barely any cards are using black mana. You can use the graph to find a better balance.
3 months ago
I understand that the main focus of the deck is a plant theme, but I would highly recommend replacing Vinelasher Kudzu with Undergrowth Champion. It has a similar flavor to Avenger of Zendikar in terms of looks, a similar functionality to the Kudzu, but it's far more resilient. Its ability wouldn't also stack with Avenger's in terms of gaining counters upon landfall, but honestly that trick wouldn't occur often anyways.
On another note, maybe think of replacing Plummet with something that has a little more utility. Suppose you're going up against a deck that has little-to-no flying creatures in it, then essentially you have a dead card in your hand. Some cards for thought: Evolution Charm wouldn't get rid of a creature outright, but it would give one of your many creatures reach to combat it, as well as including a couple other tricks wrapped up into one card; Aerial Predation or Crushing Vines cost one more mana (something you shouldn't worry about with the ramp you have), with an added benefit of life for the former or artifact removal for the latter; Deadly Recluse (which again doesn't go with the plant theme) is an effective deterrent for not only flying creatures, but any creature that wishes to attack you; or even Return to the Earth, as its unsightly mana cost comes with a three-in-one removal.
Kudos to the deck design and cheers!