Primordial Hydra

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Format Legality
Noble Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Casual Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Magic 2013 (M13) Mythic Rare
2012 Core Set (M12) Mythic Rare

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Primordial Hydra

Creature — Hydra

Primordial Hydra enters the battlefield with X +1/+1 counters on it.

At the beginning of your upkeep, double the amount of +1/+1 counters on Primordial Hydra.

Primordial Hydra has trample as long as it has ten or more +1/+1 counters on it.

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Primordial Hydra Discussion

FlyingHats on Slabzan/Support

1 day ago

To Oloro_Magic: As far as Primordial Hydra goes, while it would be a fine addition, I just feel as if the ability to double all +1/+1 counters with Kalonian Hydra is more useful overall, and the deck doesn't need too many top-end threats (although Primordial Hydra would make a good replacement, and I have considered it before). And it is perfectly OK with me if the deck is a tad midrange-esque =) With Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit, it is a good idea, but I have had no problems with +1/+1 counter distribution. Between the support spells, Nissa, Voice of Zendikar, Dromoka's Command, and Gavony Township, as well as the outlast mechanic in board stalls, I have not had any trouble getting multiple +1/+1 counters on all or most of my creatures. Also, only getting a single +1/+1 counter on one creature on entry (maybe not even the creature you played) is a negative to me. But thank you for the suggestions!

Rhadamanthus on Collected company and cost reduction

1 day ago

There's no interaction between Semblance Anvil and Collected Company because you're not casting the creatures you reveal. Semblance Anvil doesn't do anything to a card's mana cost or converted mana cost, just the total cost to cast it. The only way to change a card's mana cost (or its CMC) is to turn it into a copy of a different card.

Let's be clear about a few things:

  • A card's "mana cost" is specifically the symbols printed in the upper-right corner of the normal card frame. For example: Reflector Mage's mana cost is and Primordial Hydra's mana cost is
  • A card's "converted mana cost" is the sum of the values of all the symbols in its mana cost. always counts for 0 unless the card is currently a spell on the stack, in which case it counts for the number chosen for X while it was being cast. For example: Reflector Mage's converted mana cost is 3 and Primordial Hydra's converted mana cost is 2 everywhere but the stack
  • To determine the total cost to cast a spell (short version), you start with its mana cost, apply any alternative costs that replace the mana cost, apply any optional or mandatory additional costs, then apply any cost reductions. This is where Semblance Anvil actually matters

Neotrup on Collected company and cost reduction

1 day ago

On most cards the CMC is a fixed number that can never be changed. The exception is cards with in their mana costs. They still have a CMC that is a fixed number in all zones other than the stack though. On the stack the CMC is determined by the chosen value of X, in all other zones X is treated as 0.

In short, even though Semblance Anvil changes the amount of mana you pay for a spell, it cannot change the CMC of a card not on the stack, which is what you're trying to do, nor does it change the CMC of most spells (it can help you choose different value when casting Primordial Hydra though, so changing CMC of spells is not completely off the table).

Pygmyrhino990 on Infect rulings

1 week ago

So Infect states that this creature deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters, and to players in the form of poison counters. Does this mean that if I had an effect that said "this creature deals damage to target player/creature equal to its power", would infect still apply.

My concern for this is primarily that the rules text says deals damage to NOT deals combat damage to.

The reason for my concern is sort of a jund 'get a creature with infect really strong and throw it at the opponent'.

What I'm aiming for is Primordial Hydra get strong, and then an unsuspected Tainted Strike or get PHydra strong and then Fling so that the opponent doesn't know what's coming.

Oloro_Magic on Slabzan/Support

2 weeks ago

Have you considered Primordial Hydra and the like as top end bombs as your deck (cool idea, by the way) feels pretty midrangey.

Also, have you considered the bolster mechanic as Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit could help spread the wealth so to speak. The support creatures are largely useless after hitting the board as the game goes long, Anafenza provides you with some inevitability.

izzy75 on Garruk Green Devotion (w/ Combo)

3 weeks ago

Ever think of putting in a Primordial Hydra you would easily be able to ramp it up, especially since it doubles it's counters every upkeep and it adds well to your devotion.

VaultSkirge on Primordial threats

3 weeks ago

Xenagos, the Reveler+Temur Battle Rage+Primordial Hydra=Win. Also Cinder Glade is a pretty great budget land for about $2.

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