The Chain Veil

The Chain Veil

Legendary Artifact

At the beginning of your end step, if you didn't activate a loyalty ability of a planeswalker this turn, you lose 2 life.

{4}, {T}: For each planeswalker you control, you may activate one of its loyalty abilities once this turn as though None of its loyalty abilities have been activated this turn.

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Unformat Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Custom Legal
Quest Magic Legal

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The Chain Veil Discussion

RicketyEng on About Zendikar and sparks igniting

1 week ago

Some clarification of Obby's timeline:

1) Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath conquered his home plane then sparked.

2) On his travels/conquests of other planes at some point he was attracted by The Chain Veil 's power. However he was cursed by it when he touched it and started becoming a demon.

3) He travelled to Zendikar in hopes of using its powerful and wild mana to stop or reverse his demonic transformation.

4) Upon his arrival on the plane its protector, Nahiri, the Lithomancer , implanted a hedron in his forehead which robbed him of his spark and caused his wings to wither and eventually die. Ob Nixilis, the Fallen

5) After a few thousand years Jace, the Mind Sculptor was trying to figure out how to help Garruk, the Veil-Cursed . He extracted the hedron from Ob Nixilis's forehead and managed to implant it in Garruk's arm. In both Ob Nixilis and Garruk the hedron had the effect of subduing the veil's curse. It brought some clarity to the mind of Garruk, Apex Predator .

6) I remember reading a story where Ob Nixilis, Unshackled was buried alive and he very gradually dug his way down and toward a power source he could sense. This is how he found the Khalni Heart which he first tried to use to reignite his spark before Nissa, Voice of Zendikar stopped him.

7) Utterly sick and tired of Zendikar at this point, and buried alive once more after his duel with Nissa, Nixilis vowed vengeance on the entire plane. He hijacked the Aligned Hedron Network when the Zendikari momentarily managed to trap Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger . Ob Nixilis Reignited managed to siphon off enough power from Ulamog to reignite his spark. He then broke Ulamog out of the hedron prison and summoned Kozilek to the surface. He took the time to easily defeat Nissa, Gideon, and Jace before leaving, but Chandra showed up in time to rescue them. At that point it wasn't worth the effort to stick around for any more petty vengeance so he left.

8) Ob Nixilis, the Hate-Twisted took part in the War of the Spark. He joined Karn, Samut, and Dack Fayden on their mission to close Tezzeret's Planar Bridge from the Amonkhet side (they travelled through the portal itself because of The Immortal Sun ). Tezzeret didn't put up much of a fight. Nixilis burned large swaths of the remaining Eternal army before planeswalking away.

hylie on Turns EDH

1 week ago

If you want to instill despair into the hearths of people, maybe you could consider beating them with Magistrate's Scepter . When suplemented with an actual good card in your deck Lithoform Engine you can take infinite turns with a 10 cent rare.

Apart from this weird combo Lithoform Engine wil just make you inf mana with teferi in an easier way than The Chain Veil will. It can also copy you extra turn spells.

Mcat1999 on An Avengers-like team up card

3 weeks ago

Nice.

I wonder if any users better than I on here could think of a means to win the game with a card like this via Planeswalker abilities only. No Doubling Season or Vorinclex. Just abilities. No Oath of Teferi or The Chain Veil either. Needs to be just the abilities, to make it a true challenge.

Mcat1999 on Is Anyone Else Feeling Disappointed …

1 month ago

Of the currently 316 cards on Gatherer that mention Lifelink, 196 of them contain . Following this, 21 cards contain . 129 contain , a mere 16 contain and lastly 28 contain . Oh yes, and 19 contain as in artifacts and such.

This is derived from quickly searching the database for only the keyword Lifelink, then taking the total value and subtracting the amount remaining after removing as an option, for example. What this means is that is in second place for the ability with third place going to .

When considering mechanics, it is often a good idea to note what the primary color is and what the secondary colors are. Usually there is one primary and two secondary with the last two (or three, if including ) either being negligible or unfavorable in design.

Comparing Galazeth Prismari to Urza, Lord High Artificer , who has often been regarded as a cEDH Commander is also very unfair and misleading. It would be akin to saying Sol Ring is shit because it isn't as good as Mana Crypt . A more apt comparison would be to Saheeli, the Gifted .

As for Beledros Witherbloom , she's actually extremely powerful if you know how to build around her. Firstly, you are in the two best colors for ramp. Black has a long history of being able to draw mana out of other sources such as sacrificing or paying life and green is the single best ramp color in the game, in terms of how affluent it is. If you build her properly, you can obtain vast amounts of lands onto the battlefield extremely quickly. Cards such as Tempt with Discovery , Hour of Promise , Collective Voyage and Reshape the Earth are absolutely phenomenal with her. Furthermore you can add extra bang to your buck ala Rings of Brighthearth , Illusionist's Bracers and Lithoform Engine . On top of these, you have Doubling Cube , Mana Reflection , Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger , Dictate of Karametra and Nissa, Who Shakes the World .

If you want further abuse, because who doesn't like a big Dominatrix Draggo in their life, you have a very healthy plethora of Nissa Planeswalkers who untap your lands. They are Nissa of Shadowed Boughs , Nissa, Genesis Mage , Nissa, Vital Force and Nissa, Worldwaker . And if these aren't enough, slap down Liliana of the Dark Realms and tutor out Swamps until you get that sexy emblem.

If you're going this route, why not pack in The Chain Veil ? You're already going Superfriends and you're already abusing the copying of activated abilities, so copy Planeswalker activations while you're at it, and copy TCV's too.

What does this all get you? It gets you a Witherbloom that produces hundreds of mana, easily. Because remember, you can copy her ability. You may only be able to activate it once, but in reality you only need to activate it once.

Witherbloom isn't bad or terrible. She's specific.

Oh, and by the way, Omnath, Locus of Mana has the rules on Gatherer that you are able to retain this mana even during other player's turns. So what this means is you can untap all lands on your opponent's turn and float the into your next turn. So, there's that as well. Especially with Unwinding Clock , you are also now untapping your Doubling Cube and Lithoform Engine . While Lithoform Engine can not copy Doubling Cube , it certainly can copy everything else.

Again, Witherbloom is absolutely a God --- if you build her properly.

Tzefick on Demonic Debt

1 month ago

enpc What a snarky reply :)

If you're using tutors I think you can find better ways to win than this.

I might be slightly tainted by Commander's singleton format where you can max have 3x 1 CMC changelings and up to 9x 2 CMC changelings. And within Grixis that accounts 4x of the 2 CMCs and all 3x 1 CMCs. Also lowkey forgot that Modern Horizons and apparently also Kaldheim made a few new cheaper changelings. The originals from Lorwyn were generally a lot more costly.

Overall it would seem easier to just play Arcane Adaptation , Maskwood Nexus , Conspiracy , or Xenograft along with some token generators to overcome the mana reduction aspect. Even with max reduction we're still looking at spending 7 mana in a single turn, all of them colored.


As for my own view on the card: It is an interesting idea, to cheat the planeswalker limitations akin to The Chain Veil . However it would seem that in certain control decks, even in Commander, it could gather too much upside, especially in a single turn.

I know the general rule is that when two planeswalkers are sitting comfortably on the field, that player is generally winning. I would rue the day you see two planeswalkers on the field, then slap down a third and this, pump them full of loyalty counters and ult three planeswalkers, either for a direct win or to lock down the game into arch enemy mode.

I would like to see more restraint on this.

We already have The Elderspell to amass loyalty counters on a planeswalker to rush their ultimate. The problem is that it primarily relies on your enemy also playing planeswalkers to be a feel good spell.

Perhaps you could change the active ability to a triggered ability?

"Whenever an opponent casts a spell you may pay 2 life. If you do, put a loyalty counter on a planeswalker you control."

That would give the opponent a say in how many times it can be utilized. If they choose not to cast anything, they are not advancing their own board state.

--Or--

Perhaps you could put in a counter on the ability:

"Pay 4 life: Put a loyalty counter on target planeswalker you control, unless an opponent pays 4 life."

Then it becomes a battle of life totals. The payment from the opponent could be mana or a greater life amount than your payment.

--Or--

You could utilize counters to limit it. Put a triggered ability on it that puts counters on it, and you remove one counter along with a life payment to put a loyalty counter on a planeswalker. Then there's a cap you have to work towards.

It also makes the card less of an immediate problem, because it HAS to take time to build up.

You can play around with balancing the mana cost accordingly to reflect that it is not an immediate possible game ender.


As it is, I think it has too high a ceiling and could make do with a little restraint.

Mcat1999 on Demonic Debt

1 month ago

seshiro_of_the_orochi, I just wanted to explore the other side of The Chain Veil . I had originally made it a Legendary Enchantment, but that didn't sit well with me as the ability is repeatable, giving you no reason to have more than one in play at a time anyway.

It was not actually designed to combo with any one Planeswalker in mind. I just found it hilarious that for, in the case of Ajani, Mentor of Heroes you can pay 16 life to gain 100 and then spend 100 life for 20 more activations on other Planeswalkers.

Also, Doubling Season and Vorinclex, Monsterous Raider says hi.

Mcat1999 on Oath of Teferi + Rings …

1 month ago

Oops. Linked a deck by accident.

Narset of the Ancient Way .

You also have The Chain Veil and Lithoform Engine , as well as Rowan Kenrith - assuming you get her emblem.

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