Didn't Say Please
Counter target spell. Its controller puts the top three cards of their library into their graveyard.
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Didn't Say Please Discussion
1 month ago
I really like how you have your deck synergize well with your graveyard. Normally I would cringe seeing Mesmeric Orb in a deck, but you made it work to your advantage.
I don't think you need to replace spells with lands as much as find spells with a lower mana cost. For example, Visara is a good card, but in my opinion the cost is too high to justify for a non-Rogue creature. Have you considered replacing her with either Nighthowler (you can attach it to Consuming Aberration and give it some protection from players exiling their own graveyards), a tutor card (such as Demonic Tutor or Mastermind's Acquisition) or even a counter spell (such as Didn't Say Please, Psychic Strike or Thought Collapse). Another example is Mirko Vosk. It goes well with your overall strategy, but for the same amount of mana Mind Grind can get around opponents with Hexproof despite milling one less land and you can cast sooner if necessary.
As for lands, unless you intend on adding Amulet of Vigor and Ghirapur Orrery at a later date, Having Coral Atoll and Everglades could do your strategy more harm than good since you have to remove other lands from the battlefield only for them to be tapped upon entering. If you choose to add Amulet of Vigor and Ghirapur Orrery, may I also suggest adding Dimir Aqueduct? If you choose to replace Coral Atoll and Everglade, May I suggest lands that allow you to search for lands including, but not limited to, Esper Panorama and Terramorphic Expanse?
Thank you for reading me out. I hope this helps. Happy Hunting!
5 months ago
6 months ago
Add Glimpse the Unthinkable and Maddening Cacophony for some large mill. Add better counterspells like Counterspell , Didn't Say Please , Disallow and Thought Collapse . Take out Bone to Ash , Cancel , and other bad counterspells. Add better removal like Dimir Charm , Heartless Act and Drown in the Loch . Take out Doom Blade and bounce spells. If you still want a bounce spell, add Brazen Borrower . Take out Illusionary Armor and Exquisite Blood for Lightning Greaves and Swiftfoot Boots . You need better ramp so definitely add Sol Ring , Arcane Signet , Dimir Signet and add Command Tower for a land. Add Cloak of Mists and Aether Tunnel for Tricks of the Trade and Way of the Thief . Go infinite with Rings of Brighthearth + Basalt Monolith + Mind Grind . This isn't a mill win condition, but if you want to do something janky, you could do Tree of Perdition + Reduce in Stature + Sovereign's Bite to reduce an opponent to 0 life. Here's a lot of cards to put in. Hope this helps
6 months ago
A couple of deck philosophy problems with this deck.
Why so many counterspells? If you're going for a control mill plan, you'll want either white for boardwipes or black for solid removal.
66 cards? Believe me, I used to have this problem a lot. Finding the last few cards to take out when deckbuilding is a huge problem for me because they all seem so useful! The argument that persuaded me to always have the strength to cut something was this. You have 66 cards. Logically, some cards are going to be weaker than others. You have a strongest card and a weakest card. Why are you letting yourself draw your weakest (66th best) card when you could have drawn anything else in your deck that's just better? The same logic applies to anything outside of your 60 best cards. You just have to find which are the 60 strongest.
There are a lot of 1x and 2x cards in here. Consistency is a very big part of building a deck. That's why >60 card decks are considered bad, and it's why you want as many copies of your good cards as possible. Similar argument to the >60 card argument. Why draw your weaker cards when you could've used that space in the deck for your stronger cards?
22 lands. Most 60-card decks run 24, higher for decks with lots of high CMC cards and lower for more aggro decks with low-cost spells. 24 is about right for this deck, more like 28 if you have the 6 extra nonland cards. I don't do the math on this one, but people who have say that 22 lands isn't enough to consistently make a deck of average average CMC work.
Okay, now on to specific cards. I think there are a lot of cards that don't fit with your gameplan here, so I'll just focus on what I think you should be trying to do. You said this is a turbo mill deck, so let's focus on milling as much as possible. Didn't Say Please is a good one to give you a little bit of control (usually you'll use this to stop a crab from dying). More Maddening Cacophony is probably good, as it's just better than Merfolk Secretkeeper (which I don't think is good enough for the deck) and one of the best straight mill spells around. Vantress Gargoyle is good to have not for the mill but for the utility as a blocker and alternate win (unlikely). If you're really centered around Teferi's Tutelage (which is not a bad idea, it's strong mill), have more card draw. Frantic Inventory is a good one, as are Thirst for Meaning and Opt , which you already have. Fabled Passage is strictly better than Evolving Wilds if you have them. I crafted the full playset because I use them in so many decks.
6 months ago
The Jace, Wielder of Mysteries/Demonic Consultation combo is really imaginative, and as far as I've seen, original.
However, I think you can gain some more mill for your mana by switching out some of your cards. If counter spells aren't that important, you can replace Psychic Strike with Didn't Say Please . Mind Sculpt may mill an opponent for seven cards, but Maddening Cacophony can mill each of your opponents for eight or more depending on if you kick it. Increasing Confusion costs more to cast from your hand than you are milling your opponent. Considering you have Leyline of the Void in your deck it may be a good idea to reconsider cards that offer multiple instances of mill to replace IC such as Altar of the Brood or Ruin Crab , in which case you may want to add in lands that allow you to search your library for lands.
Also, if the Jace, Wielder of Mysteries/Demonic Consultation combo is your primary objective, you may want to consider more tutor cards including, but not limited to Diabolic Tutor and Mastermind's Acquisition . You may also want to consider Fraying Sanity to back up your Traumatize if your opponent finds a way to exile your copy of DC.
7 months ago
A few other things you might try in here (though what you'd swap would be up to you) are:
Oboro, Palace in the Clouds (combos spectacularly with Ruin Crab; you could toss another copy or two in I think), Fraying Sanity (kind of a common find in Modern mill decks since it combos with everything; these I'd put in for SURE), Didn't Say Please since Counterspells are always good & this also doubles as a mill card ( Drown in the Loch actually plays pretty well in a Mill build too, and can double as creature destruction if need be), Bruvac the Grandiloquent (kind of a pseudo-Fraying Sanity), and lastly Mind Funeral as more often than not, this actually mills FAR more cards than Glimpse the Unthinkable (I'd actually run both though since they're so close and both so powerful).
Even if you don't end up making all of these swaps, at least it might give you some options to play around with. Either way, nice build! I really like the Archive Trap with Scheming Symmetry force-trigger! +1
7 months ago
Looks like fun! What kinds of groups are you playing against? The landbase is always a good place to start, I'd recommend Path of Ancestry over the guildgate and Bojuka Bog / Scavenger Grounds if anyone in your playgroup interacts with graveyards. There's also plenty of great counterspell options out there, Didn't Say Please is strictly better than cancel here, but there's also SwanSong and Drown in the Loch , both of which are pretty powerful in Commander. Removal is also important to consider, there's a bunch of great kill spells that are better than Murder , but they'll depend on your playgroup. Go for the Throat , Price of Fame , Doom Blade , Spark Harvest , Heartless Act , selected based on what kinds of decks you play against. If you're going full zombie-ball, I'd recommend Coat of Arms as a duplicate Door of Destinies . If budget isn't an issue, there's Mikaeus, the Unhallowed , which is a great group-buff and recursion engine, and Patriarch's Bidding , which can give you a huge army really quick, so long as you don't have any other tribal players at the table, but if you keep their graveyards cleaned out it shouldn't be an issue.
7 months ago
Good Sweepers To Maybe Bring In:
- Curse of the Swine
- Nevinyrral's Disk
- Polymorphist's Jest - Only temporary, though
- Selective Snare - Limited against non-tribal decks, though
Good Control To Maybe Bring In:
- Devious Cover-Up
- Didn't Say Please
- Dispersal Shield - Conditional, though
- Memory Lapse - Goes to library rather than graveyard, though
- Sinister Sabotage
- Spell Rupture - Conditional, though
Good Creature Steal To Maybe Bring In: