Drowned Secrets

Drowned Secrets


Whenever you cast a blue spell, target player puts the top two cards of their library into their graveyard.

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Custom Legal
Quest Magic Legal

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Drowned Secrets Discussion

Neotrup on Does Naban make Drowned Secrets …

5 months ago

No. Drowned Secrets is a cast trigger, not an etb, which means it still mills even if the spell is countered, but does not trigger an additional time with Naban, Dean of Iteration style effects.

FSims81 on Does Naban make Drowned Secrets …

5 months ago

Drowned Secrets is a cast trigger and Naban, Dean of Iteration is concerned with ETB, or enter the battlefield, triggers. Drowned secrets would only trigger upon the casting of any additional blue spells and does not care about them entering the battlefield so Naban would not cause Drowned Secrets to trigger twice.

Afflicti on Bruvac the Grandiloquent Millage Pillage

6 months ago

Making some cuts for your deck is kinda hard for me, because I do not know meta in your playgroup. What other decks are in your playgroup, your banlist, are you playing 4player EDH or 1v1s... This means some of my advices might be totally off, so keep that in mind.

OUT: Drowned Secrets and Fraying Sanity - they mill just 1 player.
Altar of Dementia - without Undead Alchemist useless, there is nothing good to sacrifice
Altar of the Brood - mills just 1 card and only when you got permaments to play
Increasing Confusion - too slow and expensive
Archive Trap - Looks fun, but when no one is searching their library, it's just dead card on your hand

IN? : Search for Azcanta  Flip - powerfull filter, and also ramps you
Ponder , Preordain , Brainstorm - just some cantrips
Windfall - I just like wheels + insane with Sphinx's Tutelage or Psychic Corrosion
Into the Story - 4 cards for 4 mana almost all the time, that is just good
Frantic Search - Loot 3 cards for free
All these card draws are also insanely good with Sphinx's Tutelage or Psychic Corrosion

In case you are interested in some of my personal insights and experiences from my personal Bruvac deck, hit me up on discord: Afflicti#1111

TheoryCrafter on Phenax Vibin

7 months ago

For counter spells I would recommend Didn't Say Please and Thought Collapse . Perplex would be a bonus. To take full advantage of Phenax's ability, I'd recommend Tree of Perdition . I would also recommend some more graveyard hate. Bojuka Bog is a must. Planar Void can prevent your opponents' graveyards from getting too big. Add in Duskmantle Guildmage as a win combo with Mindcrank. With most of your spells Blue, Drowned Secrets is a good mill booster. And don't forget Ruin Crab . Happy Hunting!

Carmelita on Hit me baby one more time

9 months ago

For your manabase, Gilded Lotus is a bit slow. I'd recommend replacing it with a Fellwar Stone or one of the Talismans.

Another Infinite Mana/Cast combo is Isochron Scepter+Dramatic Reversal. Drowned Secrets can be a fun way to mill your opponents, but it doesn't seem to support what the rest of your deck is doing. Brainspoil has transmute, but there are not many targets for it. I'd cut those two cards if you want to include the Reversal Stick combo. There's also a lot of weird things you can do with Kess and Narset's Reversal on a stick, I can tell you more about that if you're interested.

Also, I'm assuming you're using Diabolic Tutor instead of Demonic Tutor for budget reasons.

LostAlgorithm on Illusory Transformation - *Advice Wanted!*

10 months ago

Kasmina, Enigmatic Mentor is in solely for flavor, since the theme of the deck is illusions and transformations and Kasmina is the transformation magic Planeswalker. I'm going to keep 1 copy of her in regardless. Again, not trying to be 100% optimal, just want to be as effective as I can while maintaining the flavor I want.

I can see pulling out the 2 Dragons for sure. Repeal I'm a little more hesitant on removing repeal. Unsure what the best options would be:

Mana Leak is a little more expensive, but seems pretty powerful and sends card to the actual graveyard.

Negate is powerful too in a similar way, but no good against creature spells.

Cancel works on anything, but is more expensive yet. Though, most of my other cards are pretty cheap, so maybe there's room for a more expensive counter?

Didn't Say Please is expensive as well, but has the added benefit of more cards into the graveyard to support Drowned Secrets and Jace's Phantasm

Disallow is 3 mana too, but hits a wider range of things.

Dissolve is 3 mana, but with Scry.

I'm sure there are others. Posting this as much for my own reference as for input.

Caran_Lyg on Illusory Transformation - *Advice Wanted!*

10 months ago

I really don’t like Repeal, the only reason I would use that card is to keep the opponent’s hand full because I have an effect that make them take damage as long as they have certain amount of cards in hand. I don’t see the point of having Kasmina, Enigmatic Mentor. Her first effect is nice IF you had at least 3 to draw her and continually have at least one in the board, she also don’t produce Illusions like Jace, Cunning Castaway. I would say cut the 2 Dragons, Kasmina, and Repeal, put at least 3 Drowned Secrets and add 1 or 2 more counter spell of your choice.

LostAlgorithm on Illusory Transformation - *Advice Wanted!*

10 months ago

mlequesne I'll add Tempest Djinn to the Maybeboard as well! Thank you!

Caran_Lyg I can see the sense in using Metallic Mimic instead. I think I'll switch it in and keep Adaptive Automaton on the Maybeboard.

I also like the functionality of Drowned Secrets, just unsure what to remove to add it in. Putting it on Maybeboard for now!

Thanks for suggestions!

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