Orim's Thunder
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Planechase Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Orim's Thunder

Instant

Kicker (You may pay an additional as you cast this spell.)

Destroy target artifact or enchantment. If this spell was kicked, it deals damage equal to that permanent's converted mana cost/mana value to target creature.

Crow_Umbra on fart tribal

1 year ago

A volley of fart, or potentially fart adjacent puns I could think of:

Bertoxx on Birds of a Feather Storm Together

1 year ago

Orim's Thunder is not eligible for Feather's recursion, as it does not target one of your creatures? Correct me if i'm missing it!

Blobby_Bobby on Aurelia's Samurai EDH

3 years ago

Don't know if it's in your inventory, but Viashino Heretic would be a good replacement for Orim's Thunder. Same thing but repeatable.

jakusbakus on Feather's Token Tantrum (~$200)

3 years ago

Hey, so I've updated the deck a bit to reflect what I have in it right now. After playing with it a bit, I've found that Grapeshot is a game-winner in this deck when I have an engine running with either Zada, Hedron Grinder or Mirrorwing Dragon, so I don't quite want to sub it out just yet. Especially since burn is sometimes the only way for me to get through damage on a friend whose pillow-fort deck has gotten out of control :P. Other than that, I've already subbed out the other cards you mentioned as I realized pretty quickly they don't synergize well.

I don't think I'm going to drop the land count because I've found it crippling to not be able to get out a land each turn in my few games with her. I really like your land suggestions though, and I'll definitely consider getting a copy of each of them going forward to help with mana fixing.

You're right in saying that this deck is definitely lacking some token pump though, and I really like the suggestions of Anax and Cymede and Krenko, Tin Street Kingpin. I remember looking at Anax and Cymede and for some reason I thought you couldn't stack the trigger by casting multiple spells, but I read it correctly when you suggested it.

Aria of Flame is something I'm trying to get my friend to trade me right now, I've realized it's a must-have for a deck like this!

I've also worked on card-draw and scry-cards which really help me dig to the centerpieces of this deck - Zada, Hedron Grinder and Mirrorwing Dragon. I've found that they just make things ten times easier, and ten times faster too!

Some cards that I've added -

Reckless Rage and Fall of the Hammer have been exceedingly useful, especially when combined with Mirrorwing Dragon or Zada, Hedron Grinder, which allows me to aim sometimes upwards of 20, 30, even 40 damage at multiple targets.

Orim's Thunder instead of Heliod's Intervention since it is repeatable.

Aurelia's Fury which save me from powerful creatures or devastating spells

Ephemerate and Long Road Home for protection. It does remove my tokens if I have Mirrorwing Dragon or Zada, Hedron Grinder, but I've found it's not an issue since I can generally wait for an opponent's end step, cast a bunch of spells, and then have a token army ready to go when it comes back to me.

I should mention that my playgroup doesn't have a deck that's heavy on counter spells, so I'm really wondering how it might fare against something like that. Generally I'm free to pop off so long as I can keep up mana for any removal my friends might have.

Thanks so much for the suggestions though, it really has helped me see what parts of the deck I can fine tune, and what cards I can put in to make that happen!

awesomeatm on Kaalia's Wrath

3 years ago

Rri's Greasy Suggestions

My understanding of the deck is that it's essentially a Sneak Attack style deck - put creatures in and muck face. The main goal with these suggestions is to get Kaalia of the Vast out by turn 2 or 3 and put more relevant threats down! Apologies if this isn't the most organized, but hope it helps.

Creatures:

Akroma, Angel of Fury - literally a 6/6 with firebreathing 90% of the time
Emeria Shepherd - even you complain about this one.
Kaalia, Zenith Seeker - Yes flavour, but fricken goofy card
Kambal, Consul of Allocation - What does gaining life do for you? I would only run him if you ran necropotence or equivalent
Mana-Charged Dragon - Nobody is paying into that lmao
Rakdos the Defiler - I get that you have big balls, but he's pretty much single use - I enjoy the meme though.
Iroas, God of Victory - I understand that he lets Kaalia get through, but that wouldn't be a problem if you could just get her out earlier.
Angel of Deliverance - If you're getting delirium with this deck at it's present state I'm super impressed.
Sorin, Grim Nemesis - There is better ways to draw cards and you can't cheat him into play

Lands:

Karoo Lands: They are decent, but you're missing out on precious early mana when you run them.
Nephalia Academy - This is the most Cam card I have ever seen, run Rogue's Passage if you want colourless utility.
Vivid Meadow: Again slow, run a City of Ass in this slot

Artifacts:

Armillary Sphere - If you are hell bent on this effect, run a Thaumatic Compass  Flip
Darksteel Ingot - 2 mana artifacts are way better for a turn 3 Kaalia.
Sunforger - Personally this doesn't do it for me, super mana intensive for the effect, especially when you have black for tutoring/card draw.

Instant and Sorceries

Mortify - Hello Anguished Unmaking, Vindicate or Generous Gift would like a word.
Tragic Slip - Despark seems a lot better!!

Enchantments

Ghostly Prison - You have fatties to smack people in face, if they swing at you, swing at them harder - or block :^)
Aura of Silence - You aren't on the stax path my son and you can find more efficient instant speed removal!
Akroma's Vengeance - Austere Command
Diabolic Tutor - Demonic Tutor
Orim's Thunder & Return to Dust - I would suggest just running a less expensive removal, or more flexible removal eg. Disenchant or Chaos Warp

Strategy:

I would suggest cards that more aggressively use your life total, you're playing an agro strategy and want to be firing on all cylinders!!

Card Draw and Tutoring

Necropotence - Draw a shit ton of cards, and more selection of what you want to put down with Kaalia.
Painful Truths, Sign in Blood, Night's Whisper - Efficient card draw!
Faithless Looting, Tormenting Voice, Thrill of Possibility - Slot in these if you are planning on going a stronger recursion route.
Wishclaw Talisman - Fun tutor!
Enlightened Tutor - Finds you boots, sword, or whatever else you may need.
Demonic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor - Need I say more?
Gamble - Put all your money on red lmao
Mausoleum Secrets & Diabolic Intent – Conditional Tutors which seem decent in this deck.

Creatures

Vilis, Broker of Blood - This card is insane, especially when you get to cheat him out.
Razaketh, the Foulblooded - Turns Kaalia into a huge toolbox, also really strong in the recursion route.
Archfiend of Despair - Doubles damage!!
Rakdos, Lord of Riots - Reduces the cost of your big creatures, letting you actually play them after you swing.
Sire Of Insanity - Discarding everyone's hand is pretty good for you, as this deck should be pretty good at top decking.
Scourge of the Throne & Hellkite Charger - More combat - wins with Sword of Feast and Famine!!
Resolute Archangel - A lot of the cards I'm suggesting are pretty hard your life total, resetting to 40 with a Necropotence out is pretty gross.

Kaalia Tings

Sneak Attack - Does pretty much the same thing as Kaalia.
Karmic Guide, Reya Dawnbringer, Primevals' Glorious Rebirth, Animate Dead, Living Death, Phyrexian Reclamation - Recursion is super strong, plus you run a shit ton of legendaries for rebirth. As an aside, Leonin Relic-Warder gives infinite ETB with Animate Dead - something to keep in mind.
Legion's Initiative - Pretty flexible protection, also making Kaalia a 3/3 is pretty relevant.
Aggravated Assault - Even more combat, wins you the game with Sword of Feast and Famine.
Kaya's Ghostform - Leave it and forget it protection for Kaalia.

Mana

Talisman of Hierarchy, Talisman of Indulgence, Talisman of Conviction, Fellwar Stone - even potentially Mind Stone - 2 mana rocks are super good as they enable the turn 3 Kaalia.
Wayfarer's Bauble - An all star, also Kaalia turn 3.
Lotus Petal - SPEEDY
Nyx Lotus or Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx - A lot of your creatures have super high devotion, take advantage of that.
Caves of Koilos, Battlefield Forge, Sulfurous Springs, Sacred Foundry, Godless Shrine, Blood Crypt, Luxury Suite, Exotic Orchard, City of Brass, Rugged Prairie, Fetid Heath, Silent Clearing, Sunbaked Canyon, Tainted Field - or even more basics: Untapped coloured lands!!

KongMing on Feather's Battle Spells

4 years ago

Orim's Thunder is another good one for blowing up everyone's Sol Ring.

Joe_Ken_ on Plasma In The Sky

4 years ago

Also some more cards that could be good for the removal package are Wear / Tear , Crush Contraband , Orim's Thunder , Chained to the Rocks , Cast Out, Banishing Light , and Forsake the Worldly

SufferFromEDHD on Trump's Foreign Relations

4 years ago

This list is really cool! Strong theme and good use of new commander.

Two cards stick out as kind of bad: Dictate of Kruphix and Howling Mine . You are running blue, why give opponents free cards? Land Tax + Scroll Rack would be efficient in this list full of basics.

Disenchant seems weak/clunky. Dismantling Blow , Orim's Thunder or Aura of Silence would be solid upgrades.

See a small proliferate/counter theme. No Karn's Bastion ?

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