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Luxury Suite Discussion
1 week ago
Roally, don't you think that City of Brass would be the best cut if looking to swap a pain land for Luxury Suite? City of Brass will ping you for 1 damage even if tapping it as a swamp with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth in play. Sulfurous Springs and Mana Confluence won't have that problem.
1 week ago
I have a few questions,
2) What is the major advantage to using Jeweled Amulet instead of another 0 CMC artifact like Mox Amber? At best, Jeweled Amulet can be used every other turn and only offers replacement/filter/storage of a single mana. Mox Amber can be used as soon as Grenzo, Dungeon Warden is in play.
3) If using Plunge into Darkness as a quasi tutor, why not substitute it for Cruel Tutor? Cruel Tutor is sorcery speed so that is a small disadvantage and it has the drawback of placing the card on the top of the library but, that can be played around with Chromatic Sphere, Chromatic Star, Sensei's Divining Top, Scroll Rack and Necropotence.
1 week ago
hoyanader Thanks for the upvote and the kind words man.
Amazingly, especially given how much scrilla I've already dropped on this deck, it IS possible to upgrade:
2 weeks ago
- Urabrask the Hidden -> Faithless Looting
- Coldsteel Heart -> Night's Whisper
- Helm of the Host -> Chandra, Torch of Defiance
- Platinum Emperion -> Terminate
- Balefire Dragon -> Kaervek the Merciless
- Swamp -> Luxury Suite
The deck needs a bit more card selection/draw. So in go Chandra, Torch of Defiance, Night's Whisper and Faithless Looting. These will help if, for example, we get mana flooded. Kaervek the Merciless is on theme (The Downward Spiral). Terminate will help out whenever needed.
It was tough to determine was to take out. Balefire Dragon is sweet with haste, but doesn't fit into this deck since we cast creatures after combat damage. That's the reason that Urabrask the Hidden is coming out as well. The other cards are good but not what I've found this deck needs.
3 weeks ago
I absolutely love this deck and it's by far my favorite Cedh deck. I look forward to all of angelforge updates when they come. What about the Battlebond duel lands, Luxury Suite and Spire Garden? I only play this deck in pods, so they seem significant to me. I don't have a Cavern or Cradle, so I found room fairly easily. Thoughts Prossh community?
1 month ago
Something you will definitely want to change about your deck is the land count. You’ve only got 22 right now and most EDH decks run anywhere from 34-39, depending on the deck. Some go even higher (or lower) than that, but 22 just isn’t enough lands for a 100 card deck. I just noticed that you don’t actually have any basic lands so you may have just forgotten, but I would put in some basics and a few others, maybe Nomad Outpost and Luxury Suite for example.
Also in general (and this is at least partly personal preference) the Vivid lands aren’t very good and it would be better to have duals of some other type. The scary lands (Temple of Malice, Temple of Silence, and Temple of Triumph) are pretty good (and relatively cheap) options, as are pain lands (Sulfurous Springs, Caves of Koilos, and Battlefield Forge) among others. I have a Mardu Vampire deck that has a pretty good land base which you can check out if you want, maybe get some ideas for this one (deck is here: Edgar Markov tokens).
Another thing that you may not know (or it may not apply in your meta) is that planeswalkers generally aren’t that great in EDH. People tend to gang up on them and kill them off before they do much. Of the ones you have Ugin, the Spirit Dragon is definitely an exception, he’s amazing, but aside from him and maybe Sarkhan most of them don’t seem like they’d work very well in here (especially Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded, he’s just terrible in general).
Something I try to think about when thinking about adding planeswalkers is will their non-ultimate abilities be useful to me. You will almost never get to a planeswalker’s ultimate so the other abilities have to be worth the cost of casting the walker and the cost of running it in the deck over something potentially better. For example, Ugin. His plus defends himself fairly well and can zap players if you need it to, and his minus ability (his best ability) is an absolutely amazing boardwipe. His ult is fantastic, but it’s not enough to run him since he probably won’t get there. Tibalt is an example of the exact opposite. His ult is great, yeah, but both his other abilities are horrible. The random discard from his plus hurts a lot, and the minus is costed much too highly to be worth using ever (seriously why is it -4 that’s ridiculous), and you have to uptick him twice to even use it once, three times if you want him to survive it.
Aside from that the deck looks pretty cool. Dragons are lots of fun, I play against several dragon decks fairly regularly and they’re always pretty awesome. Scourge of the Throne is another pretty good dragon I can think of off the top of my head, you may be interested in adding him. Good luck!
1 month ago
That's fair. I'm trying to maintain a list and am trying out cutting the single basic mountain for Luxury Suite to see how that plays out. Thoughts?
1 month ago
a few things to note before I begin,
i just finished making this deck 100% competitive so im still new to cedh matchups as i dont have a lot of cEDH games except with a tymna/thrasios and blood pod, so there is still room for improvement of course. however, in regards to the point of arcane denial giving card advantage, it is true, but nekusar and wheels are forcefeed by nature, so although im trying to make nekusar as viable as possible he will never be tier 1 because of how many wheels are used
i think Luxury Suite would be a good replacement to tarpit, what would you recommend? cuz its a nice combo and all but tarpit doesnt have a lot of use outside whispering madness and 7 mana is quite steep
i find crucible to be super useful, as if i have multiple lands in my hand i can play one and wheel the rest to use in later turns, albiet not as good without Exploration effects, it has still been extremely useful for me. Temporal Mastery, Capture of Jingzhou and Time Warp, the latter which i recently cut out but remains a maybe, are pseudo-explorations as i get another untap, drae phase and land for turn. but if you really think its just a cute interaction, what would you replace it with for cedh?
i just feel vandalblast is too good, it can be a sorcery Smelt at its worst, and a 1 sided pseudoShatterstorm when overloaded. also, you actually overload it with flashback with snap/yawgwill or jace. its a board wipe that By Force would usually require a shitload of mana to match the amount of targets, and abrade is far from a board wipe, i would sooner add Evacuation as another creature wipe and/or Shattering Spree because although it needs red, each replicate has to be counterspelled individually, where by force would just get force of will'd, but i will keep your suggestions under consideration, thank you for your concern