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Creature — Vampire
Sacrifice a creature: Bloodthrone Vampire gets +2/+2 until end of turn.
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Bloodthrone Vampire Discussion
3 weeks ago
I play a Mikaeus-deck myself and I really like your work. But I think your mana-curve is not really that optimal. I play many ramp cards and only combo-pieces, which allows to make a turn 4 or turn 5 kill, nearly every time. Please also be aware, that Mikaeus gives all your creatures +1/+1, so things like Mindless Automaton don't work, even if you kill them manually, it's stuck with only one +1-counter. If you want to make your deck more consistent and more deadly, take out all cards that don't kill your opponents IMMEDIATELY with Mikaeus. Cards like: Abhorrent Overlord or Dusk Urchins all need preparation time, so think about cutting them. Also cards like Liliana of the Veil don't do anything for your combo in this deck and are better off in a good modern deck (Oh, I wish I had one myself :( ). Here are some cards that I highly recommend to you, in order to combo off faster, and better:
Fume Spitter (I love him but only in my starting hand)
Diabolic Servitude (maybe, but recommend)
Infernal Darkness (maybe, but always worth it)
Sidisi, Undead Vizier (maybe...)
Dread Return (maybe...)
Pentavus (The only 7-drop allowed in this deck)
Grinding Station (you have many artifact creatures then...)
You may ask: "And what shall I cut?"Every Planeswalker, they do nothing for you in this deck. Every damn card that costs 5 mana or more (Only Exceptions are Pentavus and Triskelion) . (Yes, you can also cut Sidisi, Undead Vizier, if you have enough tutors). And everything, that doesn't combo with Mikaeus in a way that doesn't kill all your opponents immediately. Your goal is to win the game as soon as Mikaeus hits the battlefield. Most of the time the disruption can't do anything, because you can combo off in response to that. And to make it as fast as possible, add all mana artifacts known to mankind to your deck. Thran Dynamo, Jet Medallion and so on, and so on. You don't need any removal or any Temporal Extortion or Imp's Mischief and stuff like that. Aim for a turn 4 kill and cut everything that doesn't support your idea. There will be no threats on turn 4 or five that need you to have any special removal.
Hope this helps out.
If you want, I can post a link to my Mikaeus deck. I don't like to do advertisement for my decks, so I do it, if you want to see my idea of a perfect deck.
3 weeks ago
I enter my Combat step, declare my intent to attack and swing with my Hoarding Dragon. The blade triggers and resolves, I get two more dragons. Dragons ETB ability triggers I go wandering for two artifacts.
Let's say there's no blockers to speak of, so my stuff lives until the "end of combat step." In response to the blades exile trigger for the tokens I sacrifice them to my Bloodthrone Vampire. Now...here lies to question;
Do my tokens still go to exile if they've been sacrificed, ala unearth (if they would leave the battlefield, exile them instead) or do they "die?"
3 weeks ago
Aristocrats is a fairly established archetype that does exactly what you are interested in -- sacrifice things for value. There are a number of different styles and color combinations you can run for this style of deck. But the ideas behind the deck are almost always the same: you want low drop recursive creatures or token generators (Tukatongue Thallid, Doomed Traveler, Blisterpod, Safehold Elite, Young Wolf, Voice of Resurgence, Bloodghast, Gravecrawler, Bloodsoaked Champion, Mogg War Marshal, Lingering Souls, Promise of Bunrei, and Abzan Ascendancy), sacrifice engines (Viscera Seer, Falkenrath Aristocrat, Cartel Aristocrat, Nantuko Husk, Bloodthrone Vampire, Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim, Butcher of the Horde), and ways to generate advantages off of the sacrifices (primarily Blood Artist, and Zulaport Cutthroat).
Some decks operate as an aggro deck, some operate as more of a midrange deck, and other still operate more along the lines of a combo deck. Depending on the style you want, and the color combination, I can give more direct advice. I just don't ant to type up a long list of tips and advice for a deck you don't want :P
4 weeks ago
Arian_the_Fox If I were to add more of those reanimating cards, think I should just run Bloodthrone Vampire as another sac outlet and convert it to a sac deck with a twist? Maybe with Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet?
1 month ago
Activated abilities like Bloodthrone Vampire's are worded "cost : effect". In order to put an activated ability on the stack, you have to pay its cost.
It's not "if this ability resolves, pay its cost", but "to put this ability on the stack, pay its cost".
In this case, the cost is "Sacrifice a creature". What that means is that before the +2/+2 effect goes onto the stack, you have to sacrifice a creature. What happens before the ability resolves doesn't matter in regard to the sacrificed creature, because it died while putting the ability on the stack.
1 month ago
1 month ago
First time posting and I realize that my topic headline kind of sucks (okay it really sucks) but I wasn't sure how to phrase my question without giving the example.
So if i have a Bloodthrone Vampire and I attack with it, my opponent says they do not block, and I sacrifice let's say 3 soldiers in response to turn the bloodthrone into a 7/7, what happens if they Murder my bloodthrone?
According to the stack rules the murder would resolve first destroying my vampire, so would my soldiers live as there is no longer the vampire to sac them?
Follow up question (assuming the soldiers live, if not ignore this): how would i explain the ruling to someone who says that they murder the bloodthrone after i sac the creatures but before combat damage is dealt?
thanks in advance :p
2 months ago
Hey friend (: it's my pleasure.
First, for potential cuts: Bloodbriar (there are better options like Mortician Beetle), Agent of Erebos, Eater of Hope, Pharika's Mender, Skullwinder, Vampire Aristocrat (see Bloodthrone Vampire), Vampire Nighthawk. Also, depending on how you feel about your top-curve creatures, those could be flex spots.
I love how strong this deck is with ETB abilities and "when this dies" abilities. Treasure Keeper is phenomenal, for one. You've also got excellent one-shot sacrifice outlets like Devour and kickers and so forth. The permanent sacrifice outlets like Viscera Seer and Jarad are great, but there are few enough of them that you might have trouble sticking a sacrifice outlet.
So, what I would focus on at this point would be finding ways to cheat your fatties into play from the grave, and finding redundancies in your "permanent" sacrifice outlets. There's nothing worse than being a reanimator player with no grave and no ways to sacrifice creatures (it happens...and not always on bum draws). Splinterfright, Jarad's Orders, self-mill like Deadbridge Chant, and anything Dredge (like Stinkweed Imp) will fill your grave with creatures for you, so that when Meren has sixteen counters you'll actually have targets worth pulling. Disciple of Griselbrand, Nezumi Bone-Reader, Birthing Pod are all ways to get more sacrifice triggers when you want them. And don't be afraid to up your curve with Xathrid Demon or other high-CMC win-condition-like cards.
Then, I guess if you're feeling extra adventurous, I'd investigate ways to produce more tokens, because a lot of those sacrifice effects are still powerful for non-tokens, and tokens will help you go wide when you stick Pathbreaker Ibex. Golgari Germination, Verdant Embrace, Ogre Slumlord are all options. The worst part about GBx reanimator imo (I run Karador, Ghost Chieftain) is that the endgame is pretty grindy, so going wide with tokens is a must for me if you want to play a second game.
So, in summary, the deck is super strong in staples/ramp/card draw/core mechanics. Self-mill/extra sacrifice/token synergies are things you can pick and choose to personalize and make it fun for you, the pilot. Best of luck, and be sure to mention me if I can help with anything else!