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Endless Cockroaches Discussion
1 month ago
I have an ayli EDH deck
Commander / EDH
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im trying to figure out which would be more effective: having mass creature tokens to sac to ayli's ability or more creatures that either have recursion on them like: Endless Cockroaches and Reassembling Skeleton or just put more recursion cards in and not have such of a heavy token sub-theme. which do you think would be more efficient? thanks for your time.
3 months ago
If you want Xantcha top be your Win-Con you might need one more piece. Elixir of Immortality or any of the legendary Eldrazi should keep you from decking yourself. Especially if you take out the blue player first.
4 months ago
I run a black oath deck as my pet mono-black deck, he's a great commander with a lot of versatility. Here's a couple cards that might be worthwhile. I like Bloodghast but personally I run Endless Cockroaches just because it's way cheaper and kinda funny. Consuming Vapors is a pretty good way to weed out the board and gain life in the process. Behold the Beyond is a pretty good tutor despite it's cost, and Diabolic Revelation can be a win-con depending on how hard you ramp. I would cut Cellar Door because it's too expensive and unreliable. Stronghold Assassin is a cheaper option in comparison to Attrition and Murder might do you a bit better than Premature Burial. Anowan, the Ruin Sage is good for group sac as is Magus of the Abyss. Archfiend of Depravity helps keep your opponent's board state low. I like Corpse Harvester and Corpse Augur as well. Personally, I'd cut Bloodline Keeper Flip because for his price he isn't worth it because this isn't a vampire tribal deck. Hell's Caretaker and Doomed Necromancer are good for recursion. Fleshbag Marauder is worthwhile too I think for group sac. I'm also a big fan of Palace Siege and Oversold Cemetery for passive recursion. Flesh Carver has also won me a lot of games, the intimidate is very powerful. I'd consider running Westvale Abbey Flip as well, potentially a win-con. Shade's Form and Pestilence are also pretty good enchantments. I would substitute Sorin Markov for Torgaar, Famine Incarnate, he's a sac outlet as well as a big body and you can recur his effect and even use it to bring yourself back up to 20 life. Infernal Offering is also a pretty useful card in my experience. Maybe consider Alhammarret's Archive too if you want to make your card draw and life gain more impactful. Those are just a few suggestion, hope it's helpful!! Mono-black is my passion haha
5 months ago
5 months ago
Your curve is generally correct, but I feel there are a few things you can change to optimize your deck (and I'll avoid expensive suggestions, in order to keep it affordable, suiting your budget). First of all, you could consider running two more lands (Mathas surely is a cheap commander but it better suits a more controlish game plan. I would prefer to run 36 lands in this purpose. I recommend you to give a look at the Rocky Tar Pit (it's basically a budget fetchland) and Myriad Landscape. The new Field of Ruin might interest you as it's a great political tool. Forbidden Orchard also is nice and affordable. Smoldering Marshand Canyon Slough are not that expensive and can help you stabilize your mana pool. And, only if it fits your budget issues, both Blood Crypt and Godless Shrine are good investments.
The Planar Bridge, even if it's a great card on its own, doesn't really match with your objectives. It's slow and will take too much time to be effective. If the ''tutor'' effect was what you were searching when you put this one into your deck, I suggest you some cards as Increasing Ambition or (a slow but more versatile card) Ring of Three Wishes.
An idea I find interesting with Mathas will concern the addition of a sacrifice outlet. With cards like a Skullclamp and a Bloodghast (I know, it's not a budget card actually, but you can find it for something like 10 euros now that it has been reprinted - if you're looking for a budget version, you can run the Reassembling Skeleton / Endless Cockroaches), it provides you an excellent card advantage, with cards like Ashnod's Altar / Phyrexian Altar it gives you the necessary resources for the late game. Not to say that the red colour also gives you access to tons of cards which allows you to take the control of your opponents' creatures for one turn (Captivating Crew for example)! Alongside the altars, those cards could enable you to kill the creatures you put a bounty counter onto and so you will gain the reward and gets nice value while slowing your opponents. It may require some testing time but it seems pretty decent.In control options, you have Grave Pact, Dictate of Erebos and Attrition that could get the job done.
Tetzimoc, Primal Death seems really good here, and I'm glad someone finally decided to give it a try! With a Cloudstone Curio, you can bounce it back to your hand and restart clearing the board as much as you want, but you will have to think about adding other valuable etb effects and recursion's cards like Phyrexian Reclamation.
Sheoldred, Whispering One is not a cheap card, but feels like a staple for your strategy and your deckbuilding.
There is a lot of cards in your actual deck build that don't feel like a good idea since they just don't match with any strategy. Let's start with the Hoarding Dragon. It's a slow tutor and I can understand why you choose to play it, but it doesn't feel like a good idea. Jaya Ballard, Task Mage : the hate cards are bad because they often feel too situational and becomes dead cards. Even if Jaya provides you other options than the hate the blue guy one, she stays bad in comparison with other cards you could play (not saying that about expensive cards - even for a budget deck, she's just bad - cut it). Kulrath Knight doesn't do much in your deck... I mean... it's not such a bad card but come on, you want to pay 5 mana on something else than just a flying lil' body with wither. Kozilek, the Great Distortion is a great card, but it feels too slow here as you don't play anything to ramp, and, more important for your deck, it doesn't match with anything. If you absolutely want some eldrazi there, so add in some ramp cards and play Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, it will be much more efficient and synergize better with what you want to accomplish. Only 10 enchantments is not enough to get value from your Mesa Enchantress. Tariel, Reckoner of Souls is slow and doesn't do much. Shunt feels too situational. Righteous War is far from being interesting here, you will always prefer having Swiftfoot Boots over them... and I don't even know if you need those boots... no, I'm pretty sure you're fine without. Celestial Dawn doesn't do much and you will most of the time pay 3 to do nothing...which is bad.
A few suggestions :
Endless Whispers could be funny and fits very well the political theme!
Afterlife is a control tool which also left your opponent with a creature, it's nice not to make enemies.
Descent of the Dragons another control tool leaving your opponents with creatures. If your prison theme is strong enough, this card could be a staple as it puts 4-4 flying. Your opponents will slowly kill each other.
Disrupt Decorum mad flavorful card for a mad Mathas dude.
Besmirch not the best card ever, but could be interesting there.
Mogg Infestation lul
Chaos Warp doesn't kill your target, but it's still a really good and versatile answer.
Sarkhan the Mad look at the -2! (you will need a lot more protections if you go for it though, and chose to go for a lower curve (which is not such a bad idea btw))
Painful Quandary just a powerful and annoying control card - beware, it often attracts a lot of hate.
Solemn Simulacrum helps you to stabilize your mana base and gives you card draw.
I hope it would help you! Good luck with the deckbuilding and keep up the good work. :)
7 months ago
Endless Cockroaches > Brood of Cockroaches
ill think of some more recommendations later
7 months ago
7 months ago
I would highly recommend Endless Cockroaches. It keeps coming back to your hand, providing something for all of your sac outlets. Speaking of sac outlets, why no Sadistic Hypnotist, Dictate of Erebos, or Ashnod's Altar? Animation Module + Ashnod's Altar makes Elenda, the Dusk Rose infinitely big. Also, why no creatures that drain? Like Blood Artist.