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Patron of the Valiant
Creature — Angel
When Patron of the Valiant enters the battlefield, put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control with a +1/+1 counter on it.
Patron of the Valiant Discussion
7 months ago
1 year ago
I hate it already! ;)
Looks like you've got most of the key pieces, but here's a few more for your Maybeboard:
OK - there are lots more, but hopefully that's complicated things sufficiently for you. Enjoy!
1 year ago
No problem! And yes, putting Rafiq in the 99 was what I meant, not as the commander.
I couldn't really give any suggestions (research cards online) earlier, but now I can help more.
Proliferate lets you put 1 more counter on any number of counters on the battlefield, so if you were to proliferate, and you have 5 creatures with +1/+1 counters on them, you can add one more to each of them, and up a loyalty counter on a planeswalker, or an experience counter if you have it. Just any kind of counter. It's an amazing ability to have, and blue has it the most I believe (if not it's a close 2nd).
Good cards to consider for proliferating might be:
Thrummingbird is not bad. It has flying so it'll be harder to get from damaging players and proliferating
Contagion Engine is a MUST for a proliferators. You proliferate TWICE, and weaken your opponent's creatures, (which fun fact you can proliferate those as well). Has kind of an expensive cost at first, but after a bit in the game, four mana to up all your counters, then up them AGAIN will be a walk in the ballpark, especially since most the cards in this deck are 5 or less mana.
Contagion Clasp is the diet sugar-free version of the above, of course its much cheaper, but the ability is the same cost, and only proliferates once. Still not a bad card though.
Steady Progress is a pretty simple instant, and helps for card draw.
Finally, this may not be TOO useful, but is something to think about, Throne of Geth will let you proliferate, HOWEVER saccing the artifacts you have isn't too good of an idea, but that's up to you. At the very least, you could sacrifice the Throne itself to proliferate just once, maybe sac Sol Ring once you have tons of mana? That's up to you.
There are a few other cards which proliferate, but they deal Infect damage. Thankfully you can proliferate the poison counters they give to players and the -1/-1 counters they put on creatures, but it's been my experience playing with Infect decks that it's often better to make Infect the absolute focus of a deck that has it, Reason being that the creatures built around Infect are designed to be very fast, Infect decks are usually fast aggro decks
Good cards for putting counters on creatures might be
Lifecrafter's Gift you can never go wrong with this card, it's almost like proliferate too.Scale Blessing Pretty much the same as above.Patron of the Valiant is like those two almost proliferate cards above, except it's a creature with flying, which means you can put counters on it too!!
Titania's Boon Easy way to get the proliferate train started.
Mikaeus, the Lunarch is slowgoing, and in danger of getting targeted with an instant or sorcery, but you still have counters to throw around.
Vastwood Hydra if you plan on having the gobs of mana for it, or at least enough to put 1 counter on each other creature once it inevitably dies.
Sunbringer's Touch is okay for the first part, but it's mostly for that juicy trample effect that it'd shine in this deck.
Renegade Krasis is another good ol' counter putter.
Celestial Ancient will be useful, with those 12 or something enchantments in your deck.
Inspiring Call is also good for both synergy and card draw.
2 years ago
These are angels you could add
I think you could take out Emancipation Angel, Illusory Angel, Guardian Seraph, Indomitable Archangel, Lightkeeper of Emeria, Malach of the Dawn, Seraph of Dawn, Avenging Angel, Herald of the Host, Patron of the Valiant, Dawnbreak Reclaimer, Archangel, Angel of Salvation
Harsh Mercy seems good as well
It seems like your heavy hitters are 4 mana and up, so i think your ramp should cost less than 4. This way you're not decieding betweenn casting an angel or ramping for other angels. Maybe cut Explosive Vegetation for Rampant Growth. you could cut Belbe's Portal and Quicksilver Amulet for that same reasoning. You could add Simic Signet, Selesnya Signet and Azorius Signet for more ramp as well
You could run some anthems to pump your team as well, I think Door of Destinies could be really good in this type of deck
3 years ago
Patron of the Valiant can currently only hit Herald of War, a renowned Topan Freeblade, and something that's survived a turn with Ring of Thune (the last of which I still think is too slow to be worthwhile). This means that the average result of the Patron's ability will be very meager. And even in decks like G/W outlast that can maximize +1/+1 counters, the angel ends up not doing enough for its cost. Seraph of the Masses is actually pretty similar. It requires a lot of creatures/tokens to be viable, and that's something this deck doesn't have a ton of. And again, even in the most creature heavy decks, the Seraph is unlikely to make the cut. The reason you'll only really see cards like these in commander is that they are too high-cost, low-impact for modern. Modern is a pretty fast format, even at most casual levels, so you usually don't want too many big cards unless you have excellent ramp or those cards are going to win you the game. So Serra Angel and Aegis Angel could be too heavy as well. Herald of War and Sigarda, Heron's Grace are cards that represent the other side of that coin to me. The first offers ramp for other big stuff and the second is a game-winning card if it sticks. If I was going to make a competitive human/angel deck, I'd run mostly humans with just a few angels on the top end to close out the game. I'm actually gonna whip up a first draft version tonight. I'll post it here when It's done so you can see my thought process at least.
3 years ago
TheVectornaut Do you think Patron of the Valiant or Seraph of the Masses would fit in this deck? I picked up 2 copies of each at my LGS today as I was sorting through singles, they seemed like they could be of some use, or at least Patron.
3 years ago
I would remove Enduring Scalelord Gyre Sage Herald of Anafenza Patron of the Valiant Warden of the First Tree Evolving Wilds Terramorphic Expanse Cauldron Haze Golgari Signet just to name a few...put in Chromatic Lantern and Greater Good and try to trim a few more that aren't needed. The ones I chose were either too high casting cost, useless lands or u don't need persist because they will always have +1/+1 counters on them.
3 years ago
I ran a Karametra Counters deck. Cards I highly recommend for decks that rely on counters:
Contagion Engine: it allows you to put another counter on all your creatures while putting -1/-1 counters on opponents creatures.
Cathars' Crusade: This card gets out of hand really fast and should be a staple.
For your deck in particularHardened Scales: Its a 1 drop so doesn't cost you much and it gets a LOT of work with the above mentioned cards.
Tuskguard Captain: Trample
Abzan Battle Priest: Lifelink
My counter's deck ran mostly hydras and it does not appear that this is the direction you want to go so I will leave off most of the other creature recommendations.
Hope this helps
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