Creature — Cat
Pride Sovereign gets +1/+1 for each other Cat you control.
, , Exert Pride Sovereign: Create two 1/1 white Cat creature tokens with lifelink. (An exerted creature won't untap during your next untap step.)
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Pride Sovereign Discussion
2 months ago
Raining Cats and Dogs Nice work bdodds, I think you have selected a handful of great cards but I'd think you could benefit from an earlier CatDog play and cheaper creatures to really start raining cats and dogs. Even without Aluren, every creature coming in with an extra token produces insane value. Especially considering your general's ability.
Below, I would like to outline 4 core concepts and considerations. Ramp, Creatures, Protection, Draw.
Ramp - Prioritizing cards that help you play Rin & Seri turn 3! Nature's Lore Rampant Growth Three Visits Boros Signet Selesnya Signet Gruul Signet Talisman of Conviction Talisman of Unity Talisman of Impulse Fellwar Stone This should be easy to replace the ramp packaging you already have. Look to cut cards like Explosive Vegetation, Chromatic Lantern, Obelisk of Naya, etc.
Creatures - Prioritizing 3CMC or less and upping your creature count to closer to 30! Think about adding creatures that fullfill multiple roles and allow you to run less other stuff. Qasali Pridemage is a great example cause it can pump a swinger +1/+1 as well as remove a pesky enchant or artifact.
Cheap Utility Kitties- Adorned Pouncer Brimaz, King of Oreskos Bronzehide Lion Initiate's Companion King of the Pride Leonin Relic-Warder Oreskos Explorer Pride Sovereign Qasali Ambusher I like the returners you have for multiple cast triggers too! Can get stupid with Aluren... Whitemane Lion Temur Sabertooth Fleetfoot Panther ? Snow Hound
Protection/Return - Build a huge board and keep it protected! Unbreakable Formation Rootborn Defenses Heroic Intervention Teferi's Protection Asceticism Marshal's Anthem Kindred Boon Akroma's Will Flawless Maneuver
Draw(ish) - The cheaper the cards in hand the more you gonna empty and wanna draw! Skullclamp Colossal Majesty Elemental Bond Beast Whisperer Fecundity Garruk's Uprising Descendants' Path Realmwalker Hunter's Insight Snake Umbra Lifecrafter's Bestiary Mentor of the Meek Guardian Project Return of the Wildspeaker Shamanic Revelation Slate of Ancestry Collective Unconscious Camaraderie
General good cards for Cat/Dog: Maskwood Nexus Mirror Entity Crib Swap Felidar Retreat Basilisk Collar Thousand-Year Elixir Rings of Brighthearth Seht's Tiger Shields of Velis Vel Naya Charm Kindred Summons Volatile Claws Beastmaster Ascension Titanic Ultimatum Hour of Reckoning Triumph of the Hordes Finale of Devastation Idyllic Tutor Winds of Abandon Lightning Greaves (secret lair dog art!) Coat of Arms Swiftfoot Boots Impact Tremors Rhythm of the Wild Aura Shards Shared Animosity Mirari's Wake Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip Any Cheap Changelings really...
3 months ago
Rith's Grove or Ash Barrens provides great mana fixing. Let's say you don't have white, but your hand has a lot of white spells. Either of those lands ensures you get a white source untapped the turn you draw it. Abundant Growth is another valuable card as it provides a permanent source of color fixing and you draw a card off of it meaning it won't take away too much from your strategy of cats and dogs.
As for creatures I'd recommend Bolt Hound over Zodiac Dog. Same cost and stats, but Mountainwalk is sort of an outdated keyword and Bolt Hound effectively pumps all of the cats and dogs. If you'd rather keep Zodiac Dog for artwork then a good mana-fixer would be Lush Growth as it gives you all three of your deck's colors or if you don't need it for color-fixing you could put it on one of your opponent's lands effectively making the dog unblockable against non-red decks. I would still advocate Abundant Growth over Lush Growth just for the card draw as that's better than the small scale interaction. If you want a card that can do both effects there's Nylea's Presence, but that card costs one more mana than either card. Personally, I'd advise Bolt Hound and Abundant Growth but you do have other options if you'd rather deviate from that.
The deck also feels like it has a lack of cats. I think a Pride Sovereign would do wonders to boost the deck's cats without taking away too much from the dogs. I think you could remove a Zodiac Dog and a Release the Dogs to fit two in. Exert is a bit of an unconventional ability but you can keep track by putting a marker on it and removing the marker on upkeep instead of untapping it.
5 months ago
Glad to help!
Very fair points on Always Watching!
And that's tough, staying on a higher creature count for CoCo is totally valid. +2 Sovereign over Whitemane is not a bad idea, it costs more to cast but if you're getting them through CoCo anyway that isn't going to be an issue (and Whitemana ends up costing even more when you consider the tempo loss). I've never played with CoCo myself so it's hard to say whether it should stay or go, but it's probably a staple for a reason and keeping it in might be best in the end. Out of curiosity, do you own the Secret Lair art already? Some of those are so gorgeous, but god, I just cannot afford them right now haha. And if you don't have them yet and do take them out, you'll at least end up with a much more budget friendly deck.
Thanks for checking out my profile!! You're totally right about the chump blocking, haha. And I think I know exactly what might help! Brave the Elements gets everyone but Pride Sovereign through, and it can also double as cheap protection. You can only do it once, but often that's just what you need. For more permanent effects that affect everyone and don't cost a huge amount of mana, I sadly can't think of anything off the top of my head. As for space, right now you don't have the mainboard room for it and that could cost you some games, but if you keep it in the sideboard you'll have a safe choice for boarding in against decks that go wide or that feature a lot of removal.
5 months ago
ellie-is — Thanks once again for your comment and help!
I do recognize that Always Watching is pretty much strictly better in this deck (cuz yeah, I'm only generating tokens with Sovereign's ability if I'm on the defense and blocking with him.... and sometimes not even then, as I'd then lose him as a blocker for the next turn). But of all the anthems, Watching has the most egregious artwork — it's creepy and absolutely doesn't fit. Lions are majestic, which is why I can get behind stained glass and god rays in the art. LoL
I agree on the others. They're just not as good or too slow. I do like the combat trick factor of Force, but I'm not sure how to fit it in.
Speaking of, as much as I agree with you that Whitemane Lion should be the one to go, I don't really want to go below 26 hits for CoCo. (In my Modern Elves, I had 36 creatures for Coco!) Until WotC prints another good lion, Whitemane will have to stay. :\ I've considered -2 Whitemane for +2 Sovereign, but I haven't tried that yet.
So on to a different question.... I was checking out your profile, and saw your Saproling deck (love the idea, by the way! Haven't had a chance to take a thorough look yet, but I plan to leave a comment and +1). Anyways, saw your deck, and all I could think was.... Damn, she'll pump so many Saprolings out, she'll just keep chump-blocking my lions and I'll never get them through! So do you know of any efficient ways to give the team evasion like trample or flying (though that's not very on theme)?
Although even if you suggest something awesome, I'm not sure what to take out without compromising CoCo. Maybe I need to just take CoCo out and focus in another direction.... despite the new lion art CoCo has in its Secret Lair version....
5 months ago
Halbrech: Heh, you're welcome!
Now lets see...
Honor of the Pure is the best option overall due to its low mana cost, but it doesn't affect Pride Sovereign. Since you only have two Sovereigns and they get pretty big on their own, that might not be an issue. I do recommend having it as your primary anthem, as the lower mana helps ensure you'll be able to cast multiple of them if you've drawn them, which can be the difference between winning or losing with a great card in hand.
Radiant Destiny is my favorite of the 3-mana anthems. Always Watching gives vigilance without the City's Blessing condition, but your tokens would miss out (that said, you don't make that many tokens so it might not be an issue).
Spear of Heliod is nice, but it does have two easy to remove types, compared to the rest that only have one. Icon of Ancestry might win you some tight games you'd otherwise have lost, but overall it feels too slow for modern, especially if the card you're drawing is 1- not going to be cast on that turn because you're out of mana after activating it 2- not going to win you the game when you play it via haste or another effect. So I'd pick another card over it.
Force of Virtue is a nice trick to have, but I wouldn't run it as your primary anthem. Up to two copies if you already have at least 4x of other anthems can be nice to have and adds combat tricks to an otherwise very predictable deck, and could score you some wins.
If you're trying to figure out what you could take out for more anthems (and I do think it's a good idea having at least 8 of them, but King of the Pride counts and so you have 8 already), Whitemane Lion would be my pick—removing two of them would be a very safe bet.
6 months ago
But don't you think that 27 cats is enough, TriusMalarky?? I'd rather cut some cats and get more lands. Remember that this is also a token deck, so Pride Sovereign would greatly benefit when there are a lot of tokens of 1/1 lifelink cats which also get buffs.
Pride Sovereign in numbers of 2 is really useful with Blessed Alliance, and can generate tokens on his own. I am using Regal Caracal for tokens as well. I have 4x Anointed Procession for a reason. I've usually had great success using tokens in my cat deck. I also have 1xSundering Growth for its populate ability not to mention it will be useful if I ever need a artifact or enchantment removed, which will most likely be hard to draw this card, but regardless I believe it will be used often in games.
The reason I don't have many Feline Sovereigns is because I traded one for Unbreakable Formation. This balances out my ability to have +1/+1 with a creature and instant. But does the Feline Sovereign only give +1/+1 when its on the battlefield, or not?
I_Want_To_PlayAllTheDecks Birthing Pod is really nice. But I don't think I could use that to eternalize adorned pouncer or anything like that; the only card it would work on is Regal Caracal when paying 4 or 3 mana and 2 life for making a 5 mana creature. And Karn, the Great Creator is only useful if I'm running lots of artifacts. And what is CoCo? With Ajani's Pridemate if I have a lot of 1/1 lifelink cat tokens, and attack with those using Encircling Fissure, I can buff him up so much it will be very useful to have Setessan Training and/or Angelic Gift.
Adorned Pouncer is very expensive mana-wise when you eternalize it, so it will be late in the game when I use it. Same goes for Fleecemane Lion. And Bronzehide Lion is expensive for making a single creature indestructible when I can use something like Unbreakable Formation for 1 more mana cost while buffing my entire army. Yes, they're good for 3/3 for 2 mana, but regardless I have other cards for that. For instance, Prowling Serpopard is very useful against blue counter heavy decks, covering my entire army with their ability, and is a 4/3 for 3 mana.
Angelic Gift is a must if I'm facing flying decks or if there are decks that don't have fliers or reach so I can deal direct damage, and on top of that it functions as a 2 mana cost draw 1. Just think if I used that on a Eternalized Adorned Pouncer!
What I need are tutors or something that allows me to pick out what I need for whatever occasion; that's how a good toolbox deck would work. Perhaps splashing black for Agonizing Remorse and Lay Bare the Heartand Grim Tutor??? Hand control is great when you know what cards are best in their hand, and Grim Tutor is currently the best tutor in Pioneer, I think.
6 months ago
Looking at this, it feels like you have a bunch of fun cards that you like, and it's slightly hurting your competitiveness.
IF you want to be more competitive, I recommend running the full four Adorned Pouncer. With any lord, i.e. Kaheera, it gets REALLY scary. It's a much better beater than most of your other cards.
Second, you have a lot of maindeck cards that should stay in the sideboard. Use the full 4 Fleecemane Lion -- it's a great card. Also get 4 Bronzehide Lion. This high number of 2 mana creatures with 3+ power will allow you to deal some real damage.
Additionally, the 2 CMC allows you to cast them off Lurrus.
If you want bigger stuff, I recommend either Pride Sovereign OR Regal Caracal.
Or cut a bunch of your random stuff. Most of your noncreatures are not relevant.
Additionally, due to the power of Feline, you don't care near as much about artifacts and enchantments. You can easily be destroying one or more every turn.
That's all if you want to be more competitive. If you're mainly concerned with a cool deck, this seems pretty much fine as it is. But if you want to win more.... replace literally every noncreature in your maindeck with cats.